Talks Resume, but Strike Continues NY Times Sunday newspaper- Page 3

[GlindatheGood22]

Posted: 11/18/07 at 5:20pm

We've gotta have this over with soon. It absolutely CANNOT run into the Christmas season.

[StageFan2]

Posted: 11/18/07 at 5:24pm

It won't Glinda - I think they're trying hard to get this settled. Just keep the faith.

[adamgreer]

Posted: 11/18/07 at 5:26pm

I've got to believe that after 13 1/2 hours yesterday, and going on 8 hours today, that they are making progress. If they weren't, someone would have left th negotiations already.

I would like to think we would hear something tonight. If an agreement were to be reached, I'm sure they would want it to be on the local news at 11, that way it could also make tomorrow's papers.

[neurodude84]

Posted: 11/18/07 at 5:27pm

I would imagine this will be settled soon. The fact that they have successfully negotiated for over 22 cumulative hours so far this weekend is encouraging--no one has walked out, so things are staying civil. It is no secret that they have many differences in opinion, but the fact that they are still talking is very encouraging. If it were a stand-still and no progress was being made, someone would've walked out.
Updated On: 11/18/07 at 05:27 PM

[Neverandy]

Posted: 11/18/07 at 5:31pm

I don't know...some of the local one guys were saying that there wasn't much progress yesterday.

[Eris0303]

Posted: 11/18/07 at 5:36pm

"I don't know...some of the local one guys were saying that there wasn't much progress yesterday."

Wasn't it that they hadn't HEARD of any progress rather than there not being any actual progress? Someone had previously posted that they were not getting hourly emails on the status of negotiations which was actually a good sign. I seem to recall reading that.

[localonecrew]

Posted: 11/18/07 at 7:08pm

members of the negotiating committee told us that zero progress had been made. that the items that the union told them were not up for discussion were the first things the league demanded.

it is not going well from all accounts.

[GlindatheGood22]

Posted: 11/18/07 at 7:22pm

Not good. Well, I don't have any tickets for anything until the sixteenth. Maybe there's still hope for me.

[neurodude84]

Posted: 11/18/07 at 7:22pm

if literally no progress had been made, Monday's shows would already be canceled. Both sides have said they are not talking during negotiations, so I am left to believe the so-called "negotiating members" who have talked to a couple people are fakes--the real ones are still in meetings. I'm fairly confident that anything that could be stated here would have already been heard by the news agencies, which have reported nothing. Further, if the producers had been as rude as you seem to be reporting, Local One would not have stayed at the table for over 20 hours so far--not much to discuss for that long if no one is being flexible. So I call your report bogus.
Updated On: 11/18/07 at 07:22 PM

[Glory]

Posted: 11/18/07 at 7:24pm

neuro i completly agree with you.

[adamgreer]

Posted: 11/18/07 at 7:25pm

Well, not that I put much stock in this, but NY1 has an "off the record, anonymous source" stating that negotiations are not going well.

Again, I have to believe that the people who would know what was going on are a bit busy. Also, as someone else said, if literally no progress had been made, Monday's performances would probably already be cancelled.

[carymetorent2]

Posted: 11/18/07 at 7:27pm

I'm trying to keep it positive, but as each hour ticks by, it seems less and less possible that there will be a resolution before tomorrow.

Yes, the talks are still going on which means the producers and union members must see the possibility a compromise or someone would have left, but its been a long time since negotiations started.

Actors no longer have to sign in at half hour, which is good, but also presents a slightly defeated air to me...like they are settling in for a long haul?

[Tkt2Ride]

Posted: 11/18/07 at 7:57pm

I hope that isn't the case. It seems Eugene's source wasn't too good. That is really too bad. If we hear nothing by Tuesday, things will look bad until the following week.

I just can't believe the League would push so hard to cause a strike during this season. In the end, it will erode many peoples trust in the security of a Broadway show. This just doesn't seem like the best tactic for anyone.

I am sure there are people on both sides who wish it didn't come to this. I am sorry this is effecting business so much. At least the Mayor came up with a downtown promotional to help local business. People who can't go to their usual shows will still go out to eat. I think the worst impact will be on advance sales.

Yet, honestly, I believe the news was already effecting sales even before the strike was called. Really Disney had the best advances I would wager so I am glad they are in the fight now.

I wish it would end so you can see your shows. This is a drag to have to come here and not read new reviews or to think shows that had a lot of potential are being delayed right now.

I was hoping Eugene was right. That most of the issues were settled but some already really were. I was looking forward to an announcement today that this was all over. It will not end if both side refuse to negotiate. The Union can't give back too much without getting something reasonable in exchange. If they give back too much it makes the whole industry unstable as more and more skilled workers will look elsewhere for better pay and hours.

I just hope it doesn't come to that.

[Josh Freilich]

Posted: 11/18/07 at 9:31pm

Me neither, Tkt2ride, and all we can do is wait and worry...............

[BreeDaniel]

Posted: 11/18/07 at 10:06pm

Weren't you retiring from Bww Josh?

[GlindatheGood22]

Posted: 11/18/07 at 10:26pm

Well, it doesn't matter now, the talks broke down. It really amazes me how much people are manipulated by money. (And that was directed at the producers, not the stagehands.)

[NJRae]

Posted: 11/18/07 at 10:34pm

"Actors no longer have to sign in at half hour, which is good, but also presents a slightly defeated air to me...like they are settling in for a long haul?"

They were officially off last night and all day today. Tomorrow they go back to signing in at the half hour (at least those who have--or would have--Monday shows). I think they were just trying to give the actors a break.

[carymetorent2]

Posted: 11/18/07 at 10:46pm

NJRae, are you sure? That's not what I heard from people...but I'm not in New York, so perhaps you have a better source. That's nice that they gave them the break, but I was under the impression they no longer had to isign in at all.

[Neverandy]

Posted: 11/18/07 at 10:56pm

Here is the link to the Ny1 article


http://www.ny1.com/ny1/content/index.jsp?stid=1&aid=75743


Well, the bright side is that, as of today, they are still talking. The downside is that I am sure both sides really wanted to be able to announce that Broadway would be up and running tomorrow, and that hasn't happened.
I wonder how long until a closing notice goes up or we start hearing about IATSE striking the road.

[NJRae]

Posted: 11/18/07 at 11:01pm

"NJRae, are you sure? That's not what I heard from people...but I'm not in New York, so perhaps you have a better source. That's nice that they gave them the break, but I was under the impression they no longer had to isign in at all."

Well...unless the actor I spoke to was sorely mistaken I'm sure. If he's wrong he's going to be the only one there tomorrow.

[Neverandy]

Posted: 11/18/07 at 11:04pm

nevermind...I just read that apparently there is no bright side right now.

[localonecrew]

Posted: 11/19/07 at 12:19am

"if literally no progress had been made, Monday's shows would already be canceled. Both sides have said they are not talking during negotiations, so I am left to believe the so-called "negotiating members" who have talked to a couple people are fakes--the real ones are still in meetings. I'm fairly confident that anything that could be stated here would have already been heard by the news agencies, which have reported nothing. Further, if the producers had been as rude as you seem to be reporting, Local One would not have stayed at the table for over 20 hours so far--not much to discuss for that long if no one is being flexible. So I call your report bogus. "



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