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mrkringas
#25re: The Beautiful Game
Posted: 2/1/06 at 4:51pm

Really?

Its a horrible, horrible score with a pretty insipid book. Even Manoel Feliciano (original washington company) agreed with that and he was in itre: The Beautiful Game

Seriously I have seen the WE and the cheap UK tours...not a good prospect. There is a much better version of the story but ALW bought up the rights I believe. The National Youth Theatre did a completely different version the year before and it met with resounding critical success....sadly money talks and Webber made sure his version made it to London.

#26re: The Beautiful Game
Posted: 2/1/06 at 11:48pm

Probably my favorite ALW show. Amen to Gods own Country, best alw song ive ever heard. Also the staging was fantastic. The locker scene, and when they blew out the wall in the back. Very minimalist with the back wall of the theatre exposed, but sneaky with the spectacle. Loved the photo poses that took place in the space where the wall was blown out. Such a great show. Gods own country should be a duet that many a girl should do.

Chrysanthemum62001
#27re: The Beautiful Game
Posted: 2/1/06 at 11:50pm

I saw this show twice and enjoyed it for what it was.


"What a mystery this world. One day you love them and the next day you want to kill them a thousand times over." The Masked Bandit in THE FALL

rose&lark
#28re: The Beautiful Game
Posted: 2/1/06 at 11:56pm

I wasn't able to see it, and I can't figure out for the life of me how I heard the CD, but I am so glad that I did. A beautiful and heartfelt score...and the "drinking song" is a great laugh, as well re: The Beautiful Game


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Chrysanthemum62001
#29re: The Beautiful Game
Posted: 2/2/06 at 12:03am

I loved that scene. All the men were standing across the stage putting their pants on and getting ready to go celebrate. So cute!


"What a mystery this world. One day you love them and the next day you want to kill them a thousand times over." The Masked Bandit in THE FALL

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Elphaba
#30re: The Beautiful Game
Posted: 2/2/06 at 12:20am

AL, it's my favorite ALW musical. I own the London cast recording, and the German cast recording. I think the emotion it evokes of the situation is inspiring.


It is ridiculous to set a detective story in New York City. New York City is itself a detective story... AGATHA CHRISTIE, Life magazine, May 14, 1956

rockfenris2005
#31re: The Beautiful Game
Posted: 2/2/06 at 3:21am


On the subject of Whistle Down the Wind, I have only ever experienced the show through the London Cast Recording (which you can't really call an "experience") and clips of a video bootleg. Other than that...

It was almost there. There's still a few things they need to work on. I have been a fan of Jim Steinman and his music since the age of five. But I do agree that Whistle Down the Wind needs work.

It's the book's fault, IMO. It's the way the story is executed. Aside from "Unsettled Scores", one of the most pointless songs I've ever heard, it's some of Steinman's most clever lyrics in years. I wish he would do more musicals. "A Kiss is a Terrible Thing to Waste", for me, beats out anything in Phantom. It's IMO the best song Andrew Lloyd Webber ever composed. Whistle Down the Wind, No Matter What, Try not to be Afraid, The Nature of the Beast: all haunting and stirring songs. Tire Tracks and Broken Hearts, Cold, Vaults of Heaven, Wrestle With the Devil: inspirational and uplifting. Andrew Lloyd Webber and Jim Steinman working together is an explosive combination: two of the 20th century's mad geniuses, and most oddly successful.

But I do feel, where everything else lacks, that the score and lyrics are very powerful IMO. It still needs work...

I haven't seen Beautiful Game, and I don't know a lot about it: but what are the conflicting worlds? Like, in Joseph, we have the Twelve Brothers in the desert,and then the rich pharaohs. In Superstar, Hosanna, we see the dark room of Caiaphas and then celebratory streets around Jesus. Evita has the aristocracy and the middle-class, Phantom takes place in varying contrasts; the dark underground lair and then the foppery of the managers, Sunset Boulevard contrasts all the doomed cynical Hollywood writers to the reclusive world of Norma Desmond, and Whistle has the kids against the parents. So what's the conflict in Beautiful Game? Also, Woman in White.

My opinions on the Phantom sequel: Frederick Forsyth should be taken out and publicly beaten for suggesting that everything Leroux ever wrote was a lie, and that Lloyd Webber was the reason Phantom exists. LOL. Seriously, go for a thrilling read with Phantom of Manhattan. It would definitely have been interesting to have seen how the Phantom sequel would have fared

R.L.


Who can explain it, who can tell you why? Fools give you reasons, wise men never try -South Pacific

Holbee
#32re: The Beautiful Game
Posted: 2/2/06 at 9:57am

"Beautiful Game" had one of ALW's most intriguing and beautiful scores.

It was almost like the anti-Lloyd-Webber, very little scenery, the actors bussed their own sets. Very small.

Ben Elton's lyrics were simple without being too simplistic (though once in a while they were admittedly downright bad)

Though he had some interesting ideas on terrorism, the terrorists ideologly and complexities, the book was problematic.

In "God's Own Country" the second girl who sings is referred to in the program as "Protestant Girl" and we never hear from her again. This happens early in the show, you just don't introduce a character, have her sing this ravishing song with a unique point of view and then drop her. He had no idea about the structure of a musical. And as director he had no one to edit him.

Sant
#33re: The Beautiful Game
Posted: 2/2/06 at 5:15pm

"God's Own Country" was not only the best song in the show but I think the staging of this song - in all simplicity - was brilliant. First there's the female lead, Mary, singing her part and then this Protestant Girl walks on stage and joins her. They don't do anything else but sing. As the key changes, several small windows open(/curtains go up) in the back wall to show a beautiful green landscape. And in the end of the song, during the last verse, as the song starts to quiet down, the windows close and the song ends. It was very plain and simple - but very effective and beautiful!

And for the same reason - simple and plain, just people singing - I enjoyed the opening scene of WHISTLE DOWN THE WIND, the church scene where the whole cast sings "Vaults Of Heaven", one of the best songs in that show.

Gothampc
#34re: The Beautiful Game
Posted: 2/2/06 at 6:26pm

"This happens early in the show, you just don't introduce a character, have her sing this ravishing song with a unique point of view and then drop her."

Very true. It was almost like Doatsey Mae in "Best Little *house in Texas". I guess DM got on the Bus from Amarillo or got some 24 hours of lovin' or maybe swallowed some Hard Candy Christmas.

I also saw Whistle Down the Wind. Another show that doesn't quite cut it. You build up to the fact that Jesus (or a murderer) is in the barn, and then the momentum of Act 1 just fizzles out. The fizzle starts with the song Annie Christmas and slides from there. "No Matter What" should open Act 2 because it's not a strong enough finish for Act 1. With the current score, they should cut Annie Christmas and have ended Act 1 with a mix of "When Children Rule the World" "I Haven't Got a Prayer" and a hinting of "Wrestle with the Devil".


If anyone ever tells you that you put too much Parmesan cheese on your pasta, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.

rockfenris2005
#35re: The Beautiful Game
Posted: 2/2/06 at 9:56pm


A bit off-topic but: it concerns "Vaults of Heaven".

Get out (if you've got a copy) your video-cassette or DVD of Jurassic Park. Watch the scene where they're watching the big longed-neck dinosaurs (whatever they're called LOL), and the score plays its theme. Sound familiar?

Now go back and listen to "Vaults of Heaven". Pay careful attention to the lines "open up the vaults.. open up the vaults". You'll know what I mean re: The Beautiful Game

Changing Whistle: it needs a better song for The Man. What's the point in keeping "If Only"? It's a good song, but it just slows down the show. "Long Overdue for a Miracle" is pointless, because it serves the same purpose as "When Children". Either choose between the two, but don't use both. I do think that "No Matter What" works at the end of Act One. I can't imagine it starting out the second act. "Try not to be Afraid" should be an important motif, not a stand-alone song. There needs to be a better reason why The Man sends Swallow out into the dark; thus invoking the song "Kiss is a... etc."

How on earth would an emissary deliver a package to The Man when he's escaped from prison and no one knows where he is? I always found that extremely confusing. Anything else? Just discuss.


Who can explain it, who can tell you why? Fools give you reasons, wise men never try -South Pacific
Updated On: 2/2/06 at 09:56 PM


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