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The pitiful state of the broadway musical: the parade

Imagine someone tuning in today, who'd never seen a broadway musical? You'd surely imagine this uniquely American art form to be "one big Gap commercial," as someone astutely characterized it elsewhere. The MamaMia-fication of the theatre is now complete, once you witness ALL SHOOK UP and GOOD VIBRATIONS setting their mediocre sites on broadway in the same season.

Leonard Bernstein has a lotta reasons to turn over in his grave these days, but if he'd seen a slice of his work included with this abysmal drek he'd be spinning. Young composers and lyricists out there -- work harder, longer, and more aggressvely. We need you, and quick. Producers who package pop collections and hire a book writer to stitch it all together: shame on the lot of you.
"I'm a comedian, but in my spare time, things bother me." Garry Shandling
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All Shook Up is a great show with a great cast. I'm sorry you feel the way you do. To each their own.
"I'm a pretty girl, mama." -Penny Lou Pingleton, Hairspray
"You like football, Ed?" "Yeah..." "Good. Me too." -Chad & 'Ed', All Shook Up

Updated On: 11/25/04 at 10:14 AM

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Sorry, Auggie. But All Shook Up was shockingly good. I wasn't expecting it, but it was. Good Vibrations was NOT. In that you are correct.
Word. Word, indeed.
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I think you're confusing a good show with a show that deserves to be on Broadway. Aladdin at Disney's California Adventure is a good show, but doesn't deserve to be on Broadway. But it is your mindset which got All Shook Up, Good Vibrations, Mamma Mia, Hairspray, and other undeserving (and overrated) shows onto the Great White Way.
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Again, sorry you feel that way. Hairspray is another favorite of mine and well deserving to be on Broadway.
"I'm a pretty girl, mama." -Penny Lou Pingleton, Hairspray
"You like football, Ed?" "Yeah..." "Good. Me too." -Chad & 'Ed', All Shook Up
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And the mindset that puts them on Broadway is the fact that they make money for the producers. People don't want to blow money on shows they're unsure about. If they recognize the music, they'll see it. Unfortunately, that means more jukebox musicals for Broadway. I don't like that. But maybe they'll all pleasantly surprise me like ALl Shook Up just did.
Word. Word, indeed.
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I have to vehemently disagree about All shook up. And wholeheartedly agree with Auggie. What a pathetic state Broadway is in. I'll admit that compared to Good Vibrations, All shook up seemed like sheer inspired genius but that is not saying much. I'm not quite sure I understand why the woman in ASU is singing what seems to the untrained ear,(mine),legit soprano, during an Elvis song but that's just the tip of the problem iceberg. Good Vibrations was unacceptable on all counts. It's never good to take a page out of the Footloose handbook and hire "real" looking kids. Call me old fashioned, but I still want my performers, especially dancers in skimpy outfits, in GOOD shape. The American Idol girl even managed to PRE-RECORD out of tune and had no idea what she was doing. When Brooke Sheilds comes off as the most talented, seasoned, palpable of the lot, there's trouble on the horizon.
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Let's be very, very clear here. I'm in no way dissing a wonderful, well-crafted show like HAIRSPRAY -- built from the ground up, with an original book (based on a screenplay) and all new songs, composed by musical theater writers, to be sung by characters. This is not a debate about "youth" or the use of rock music or the rock idiom. I saw the original productions of HAIR and RENT, two examples of the form incorporating the rock n'roll successfully. Those were created by artists, not producers who buy the rights to existing songs and shove them into the mouths.

Yes, to each his own. I am always heartened to see opportunities for so many talented performers. But Vegas and Broadway are not the same -- and reading that "All Shook Up" was "shockingly good" truly frightens me.
"I'm a comedian, but in my spare time, things bother me." Garry Shandling
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One of those things is not like the others, and it's Hairspray. It has heart, brains, humor, an ORIGINAL SCORE and (unlike a jukebox show), its own internal logic, to which it sticks.

Brian Wilson is a genius songwriter. It's a pity Good Vibrations won't do anything to really advance an audience's knowledge of the man, the way the upcoming "Lennon" might do for its audience.
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Whoa !!! How can you put Hairspray in with those other shows ??? It is not made up of previously released material (even though it is obviously heavily influenced in places....) and it has a very funny book that really works.

Hairspray is one show that Broadway should rightly be proud of.
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Ijay, do read my entire post. I said Mr. Bernstein was spinning in his grave to be included with the compiled drivel. Perhaps I was too sub-tle. In case I was: Now hear this--I like Leonard Bernstein. I even liked Ms. Shields.

But I think Al Dente said it all: if a former model is the exemplary musical theater performance of the parade, well... I'm all shook up.
"I'm a comedian, but in my spare time, things bother me." Garry Shandling
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It does do a great disservice to Hairspray to put it in the same sentence as Vibrations and All Shook up. Two completely different animals. Not to mention that in Hairspary, you had a star as Edna. It helps, especially when the material is as weak as what I just saw.
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Man, let's just see if Shook and Vibrations even open. This will be hard to survive. They will have terrible terrible buzz leading into their out of town tryouts. I would say that thousands of NYers who were thinking about buying tickets have now decided to definitely NOT go see it. And I'm not sure it won over the tourists as much the producers would have expected it to.

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I just checked All that Chat and it truly is telling when all of the adults are saying the same thing. I don't care how much you love Jackson, how well paid a shill you are, there is NO getting past the sorry presentations we just viewed. If I were the Vibrations producers, I would cut my losses and run. At the very least fire the costume designer and put the cast on a low carb diet, tomorrow.
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You're right, maybe I shouldn't have put Hairspray in the same sentence as the others, it's not THAT bad. But it still is bad. Maybe I wouldn't hate it so much if it wasn't so damned overrated. It did not deserve the many Tony's (but then again, the Tony judges have never been too dependable)and the Grammy. Dispite popular belief, the show has no brains. It's all fluff. Sure, it deals with racism. Big deal, it doesn't pull it off that well. It's like, 'Well, we need something to offset this copied story and the many tracks of music that sound the same, so let's add something. Racism!'. Yes.

(End Rant)
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If this is Broadway -- where's the rest?!

Since the parade pretends to offer "Broadway's best..." where is the rest? Surely "Dracula" and "Brooklyn" could've been invited by NBC, who has the biggest audience (sadly). And the yet-to-open material: "Spamalot" and "La Cage..." "La Cage is in previews!

Weeeeell, we know why that LAST one isn't on, don't we? In 2004? They'll alienate a few thousand people who don't want those singin' n'dancin' sinners cavorting with their balloons. (Though I guess the cast of PASSIONS indirectly promotes "traditional values," of the heterosexual variety.) It's rather ludicrous, what's allowed and what isn't. Unless I'm wrong, "Avenue Q" didn't make it last year, right?
"I'm a comedian, but in my spare time, things bother me." Garry Shandling

Updated On: 11/25/04 at 11:02 AM

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If this is Broadway -- where's the rest?!

" It's like, 'Well, we need something to offset this copied story and the many tracks of music that sound the same, so let's add something. Racism!'. Yes"

It sounds like you don't know the origins of this show. It was a John Waters film, they have taken his plot written a new book and added the songs.. so the story complete with Racism came first.

Updated On: 11/25/04 at 11:08 AM

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If this is Broadway -- where's the rest?!

And I forgot poor "Pacific Overtures." Too controversial? Too critical of American history?

{Trivia question: Has a S. Sondheim show ever been in the Macy's Parade? I wonder. The winner gets two tix to "Menopause: the musical."}
"I'm a comedian, but in my spare time, things bother me." Garry Shandling
#24

If this is Broadway -- where's the rest?!

Well, it's pretty clear that PleaseChangeMe (great idea!) is no Oskar Eustis in the Dramaturgy Department.
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If this is Broadway -- where's the rest?!

It is suspect that La Cage pulled out, isn't it? It wouldn't surprise me if that wa the reason why, Auggie, as depressing as that is.

But, i don't care what anyone says, I really liked All Shook Up's little bit on the parade, and I REALLY wasn't looking forward to it being on Broadway. I thought Brooke was pretty good, too. She looked more convincingly like she was "learning" how to be cool, moreso than Donna Murphy did. Everything else sucked. No more American Idols on Broadway!
...unless its Clay Aiken. Dude's got a great voice. If this is Broadway -- where's the rest?!
Word. Word, indeed.

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