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Toni Collette back to Broadway?
#25Toni Collette back to Broadway?
Posted: 2/7/13 at 1:35pm
Ray-I'm not meaning to be condescending at all- merely pointing out that much of the enthusiasm here in the suggestions for casting her in musicals are based on fantasies of performances she's never given or rumours of strong auditions she has given that nobody but a very select few have ever witnessed.
I'm simply trying to temper a little levity in the argument.
#26Toni Collette back to Broadway?
Posted: 2/7/13 at 1:44pmMichael Bennett, to be fair, you're acting as if we have a very thin basis by which to judge Collette's musical ability. THE WILD PARTY isn't the only thing she's ever sung in. Between that, the work she's done with her band, CONNIE & CARLA, and countless other times she's sung publicly, I think there's more than enough evidence of her abilities to justify the lengths to which people suggest her for major musical roles.
Tonya Pinkins: Then we had a "Lot's Wife" last June that was my personal favorite. I'm still trying to get them to let me sing it at some performance where we get to sing an excerpt that's gone.
Tony Kushner: You can sing it at my funeral.
Tony Kushner: You can sing it at my funeral.
#27Toni Collette back to Broadway?
Posted: 2/7/13 at 1:54pm
Somethingwicked- I agree with that- and am not really questioning her talent or her ability to potentially handle many of these roles- it's just an observation that I am fascinated by- Kate Winslet is given much the same aggressive suggestion for stage musicals on the board, though neither woman seems to have expressed much real interest in performing on Broadway in musicals. I just wonder if its more the fantasy many of us have for seeing a movie star we love and think has actual musical talent on Broadway over their complete suitability for some of the roles they are suggested for.
As for Collette and Patinkin; it wa an unfortunate experience but doubtful one that would turn off a performer from forever returning to Broadway. If Collette doesn't ever return it's more likely that she prefers the flexibility of film to the riguors of 8 shows a week, which is understandable. A lot of stars feels that way.
Updated On: 2/7/13 at 01:54 PM
#28Toni Collette back to Broadway?
Posted: 2/7/13 at 2:08pmIf anyone wants an example of Patinkin's ego, watch Sunday in the Park with the commentary turned on.
Art has a double face, of expression and illusion.
Gothampc
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/20/03
#29Toni Collette back to Broadway?
Posted: 2/7/13 at 2:21pm
"I still insist that Toni Collette should have been cast as Roxie in the film version of Chicago (she and CZJ would have made a much more incendiary pair than whatshername)"
Don't get Toni started on whatshername. Toni thought that she should have starred in "Bridget Jones' Diary" and not whatshername. You want to see Toni go berserk? Mention how good whatshername was in BJD and you'll see berserk Australian style.
If anyone ever tells you that you put too much Parmesan cheese on your pasta, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.
#30Toni Collette back to Broadway?
Posted: 2/7/13 at 2:33pm
Assuming this is an accurate quote...
The 32-year-old actress tells The Scoop, "I was doing Wild Party. I was offered Bridget Jones's Diary at the time, but couldn't do it because I didn't know how long Wild Party was going to play. Then the Chicago lot said, 'We want you to do this, don't take anything else. We want to put you on tape just as a formality. Catherine Zeta-Jones is really excited to work with you.' Then Bridget Jones's Diary came out and I guess the Weinsteins had their way."
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Toni-Collette-Bitter-Over-Renee-Zellweger-10327.shtml
Tonya Pinkins: Then we had a "Lot's Wife" last June that was my personal favorite. I'm still trying to get them to let me sing it at some performance where we get to sing an excerpt that's gone.
Tony Kushner: You can sing it at my funeral.
Updated On: 2/7/13 at 02:33 PM
Tony Kushner: You can sing it at my funeral.
henrikegerman
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/29/05
#31Toni Collette back to Broadway?
Posted: 2/7/13 at 2:43pm
It's all very strange because I don't think of Toni and Renee as being so similar that they would have been likely to have gone through these reversals of fortune over the two same coveted roles.
Have to say though, as big a Collette admirer as I am, I happen to love "whatshername" in Chicago.
"I just wonder if its more the fantasy many of us have for seeing a movie star we love and think has actual musical talent on Broadway over their complete suitability for some of the roles they are suggested for."
I think you've got it half right, Michael Bennett. Casting is always to large degree about the fantasy of seeing something in someone that is very well suited for a role. It's both chemical and alchemical. And it's not an exact science, one can be proven wrong about how good someone will be as anything.
Collette is a very endearing performer and has given so much pleasure to so many people, including myself, that we picture her in things which might bring out her very best. On top of which, many, including myself, believe that she has long been on the brink of making a greater impact in the right role than she has ever done before and long to see her do just that.
But that doesn't mean we are interested in seeing her in a role irrespective of her suitability for it. To my mind she seems a particularly inspired and appealing choice for Mame, as she does for The Baker's Wife. But that doesn't mean I'm particularly interested in seeing her as Charity or Mrs. Lovett (although it's quite possible she could be quite good at them). And while I agree that she might make an excellent Diana, envisioning her in that role doesn't provide me with the same kick of imagining what she would bring to Mame.
Updated On: 2/7/13 at 02:43 PM
#32Toni Collette back to Broadway?
Posted: 2/7/13 at 3:00pmAnd the irony is that I think it was the success of Bridget Jones that made the Weinstens push for Zelweggers casting in Chicago. if Collette somehow correlates losing those roles to being tied to obligations doing stage work, that could be your real answer why she's never returned to the theatre...
Gothampc
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/20/03
#33Toni Collette back to Broadway?
Posted: 2/7/13 at 3:44pm
"I was doing Wild Party. I was offered Bridget Jones's Diary at the time, but couldn't do it because I didn't know how long Wild Party was going to play."
Did she sign an "entire run" contract? I thought that stars usually knew whether they were signing a six month contract or a year contract.
If anyone ever tells you that you put too much Parmesan cheese on your pasta, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.
#34Toni Collette back to Broadway?
Posted: 2/7/13 at 3:56pmEven if she signed a one year contract, WP could still have closed at any point. But if it didn't she was tied to it for a year. If it closed in a month she would be free. But, as she said, she had no way of knowing if it would still be running when they wanted her for BJD.
Art has a double face, of expression and illusion.
#35Toni Collette back to Broadway?
Posted: 2/8/13 at 8:19am
I'd be more on Collette's side if she was criticizing the Weinsteins for casting someone who was completely inappropriate for the role. I know she gets a terrible reputation on the board but Zellweger was fantastic as Bridget Jones and Roxie Hart. I do think she has been screwed out of a better career in some ways, I still think it's a real shame that she didn't get in at the Oscars for MURIEL'S WEDDING or THE HOURS.
I definitely see MichaelBennett's point that Collette simply doesn't seem to be interested in doing a Broadway show, which is a real shame.
"Some people can thrive and bloom living life in a living room, that's perfect for some people of one hundred and five. But I at least gotta try, when I think of all the sights that I gotta see, all the places I gotta play, all the things that I gotta be at"
alterego
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henrikegerman
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/29/05
#37Toni Collette back to Broadway?
Posted: 2/8/13 at 8:47am
I agree that Renee was fantastic in both roles.
But while the headline makes Collette out to be bitter and possibly catty, if you look at her actual quote it reads much more like an account of what happened without any vitriol and possibly one delivered in a very good-natured way.
Updated On: 2/8/13 at 08:47 AM
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