Tony Awards '08: LuPone vs. Murphy — Page 2

#26

re: Tony Awards '08: LuPone vs. Murphy

Posted: 7/11/07 at 3:26pm

To me Sally is the real lead of FOLLIES. But I consider both Sally and Phyllis leading roles.

There's no chance in hell though that Sally would ever be considered featured. Especially with Vicki's stunning performance.

Anyway. It' highly unlikely FOLLIES is transferring.

#27

re: Tony Awards '08: LuPone vs. Murphy

Posted: 7/11/07 at 3:28pm

>I would think Sally would be leading and Phyllis:Supporting.<

Except that Alexis Smith won a Tony Award for Best Actress in a Musical for playing Phyllis.

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#28

re: Tony Awards '08: LuPone vs. Murphy

Posted: 7/11/07 at 3:33pm

Yeah. That's the thing. Phyllis is usually played more by "name" actresses. So they usually get first billing, etc.

But I think first billed should be Sally, then Phyllis, then Ben, then Buddy.

#29

re: Tony Awards '08: LuPone vs. Murphy

Posted: 7/11/07 at 6:43pm

And don't forget Blythe Danner was also nominated as a Leading Actress for playing Phyllis.
I think Phyllis can be a leading role, it certainly was in the Encores! production due to Murphy's stunning performance. From the soundboard of the original production it is also clear that Alexis Smith brought a certain quality to Phyllis that made the role as significant as Sally, IMO. However, I think depending on the director and the actress, the Sally-Ben storyline could have a stronger focus and Phyllis could be played as a supporting role.
Either way if FOLLIES were to transfer at all, Murphy would indeed be considered leading...and would kick some ass come Tony night

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#30

re: Tony Awards '08: LuPone vs. Murphy

Posted: 7/11/07 at 7:06pm

I have not seen Ms. LuPone in Gypsy yet, but if Follies should transfer (and if I were a Tony voter), Murphy wouldn't even get my vote. Victoria Clark would.

#31

re: Tony Awards '08: LuPone vs. Murphy

Posted: 7/11/07 at 7:11pm

Murphy wouldn't even get my vote. Victoria Clark would.

- I think I'm with you.

#32

re: Tony Awards '08: LuPone vs. Murphy

Posted: 7/11/07 at 7:19pm

Okay, I'm not going to read this thread. I'm just posting to say, it better be a joke! You cannot possibly be starting Tony sh*t in July.

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#33

re: Tony Awards '08: LuPone vs. Murphy

Posted: 7/11/07 at 7:23pm

To paraphrase my grandmother, "It's never too early to start a Tony thread."

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#34

re: Tony Awards '08: LuPone vs. Murphy

Posted: 7/11/07 at 7:27pm

Patti winning the Olivier?

Not if Ebersole has ANYTHING to do with it.

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#35

re: Tony Awards '08: LuPone vs. Murphy

Posted: 7/11/07 at 7:28pm

Okay, I've been pm'ed that this thread was indeed meant as a joke.

And americanboy, I heartily disagree. I believe that if this GYPSY had been a full production this past year, Ebersole would have not had a chance in East Hampton.

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#36

re: Tony Awards '08: LuPone vs. Murphy

Posted: 7/11/07 at 7:29pm

If they were even going up against eachother, I would say Patti would come out on top, no questions asked.

#37

re: Tony Awards '08: LuPone vs. Murphy

Posted: 7/11/07 at 7:30pm

^ Americanboy. London loves Patti...keep that in mind. She already has an Oliver.

Updated On: 7/11/07 at 07:30 PM

#38

re: Tony Awards '08: LuPone vs. Murphy

Posted: 7/11/07 at 7:44pm

I haven't seen Patti yet, but I also heartily disagree.

If it happens, my bets are on Ebersole.

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#39

re: Tony Awards '08: LuPone vs. Murphy

Posted: 7/11/07 at 7:48pm

And do remember. While Edith/Little Edie are amazing roles for one actress. Mama Rose is considered the greatest female role of all time. She takes the cake, Mama.

#40

re: Tony Awards '08: LuPone vs. Murphy

Posted: 7/11/07 at 7:48pm

...

mama's got the stuff

Updated On: 7/11/07 at 07:48 PM

#41

re: Tony Awards '08: LuPone vs. Murphy

Posted: 7/11/07 at 7:50pm

americanboy, get back to us after you've seen GYPSY.

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#42

re: Tony Awards '08: LuPone vs. Murphy

Posted: 7/11/07 at 7:55pm

I won't see it any time soon.

BUT...

Merman didn't win a Tony for GYPSY.

Remember that.

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#43

re: Tony Awards '08: LuPone vs. Murphy

Posted: 7/11/07 at 7:57pm

So? That's irrelevent.

In Patti vs. Ebersole world, Patti comes out on top. See her performance before you try and cheapen it.

#44

re: Tony Awards '08: LuPone vs. Murphy

Posted: 7/11/07 at 7:57pm

What does that have to do with LuPone/Ebersole? I've seen both performances - Ebersole twice - and I don't think she would have been competition for LuPone here.

THIS is what legendary performances are made of.

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#45

re: Tony Awards '08: LuPone vs. Murphy

Posted: 7/11/07 at 7:57pm

^ American. HUH??

That means absolutely NOTHING.

Angela Lansbury and Tyne Daly DID win a Tony for GYPSY.

Updated On: 7/11/07 at 07:57 PM

#46

re: Tony Awards '08: LuPone vs. Murphy

Posted: 7/11/07 at 8:03pm

Well, someone said it's the greatest female role ever.

And who would you say (aside from Lupone) the best Mama Rose?

Most would say Merman.


I'm not cheapening her performance. I am sure she is fabulous beyond words.

But Ebersole... wow. I don't know.

My opinion.

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#47

re: Tony Awards '08: LuPone vs. Murphy

Posted: 7/11/07 at 8:04pm

I can't even wrap my head around how awesome just the idea of both of those shows transferring is.



And it would be ALL Patti.

Updated On: 7/11/07 at 08:04 PM

#48

re: Tony Awards '08: LuPone vs. Murphy

Posted: 7/11/07 at 8:05pm

Patti vs. Donna... oy... that would have to be just....Donna.

Christine vs. Patti - Patti. Pattipattipatti.

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#49

re: Tony Awards '08: LuPone vs. Murphy

Posted: 7/11/07 at 8:06pm

I didn't see Merman, so I can't judge.

And you haven't seen LuPone...

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#50

re: Tony Awards '08: LuPone vs. Murphy

Posted: 7/11/07 at 8:08pm

So, SondheimGeek, you're saying Murphy would have beat Ebersole?

Now, THAT I highly disagree with!

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