Tony Committee Announces Eligibility for Memphis, Birdie, Donuts, Hamlet, Oleanna, Julie & More
Yankeefan007
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/20/04
#2re: Tony Committee Announces Eligibility for Memphis, Birdie, Donuts, Hamle
Posted: 12/10/09 at 4:51pmBoy, big diss to AFTER MISS JULIE.
#2re: Tony Committee Announces Eligibility for Memphis, Birdie, Donuts, Hamle
Posted: 12/10/09 at 4:58pmAlso, pity that Jon Michael Hill wasn't considered leading for Superior Donuts. But he probably has a better shot in the featured category anyway.
#3re: Tony Committee Announces Eligibility for Memphis, Birdie, Donuts, Hamle
Posted: 12/10/09 at 5:27pmWait, why was AFTER MISS JULIE considered a revival?
#4re: Tony Committee Announces Eligibility for Memphis, Birdie, Donuts, Hamle
Posted: 12/10/09 at 5:41pmFor the same reason Oleanna was?
#5re: Tony Committee Announces Eligibility for Memphis, Birdie, Donuts, Hamle
Posted: 12/10/09 at 6:03pmAnd the same reason Little Shop was a few years ago. These shows, although never on Broadway, are too well known to be considered "new".
#6re: Tony Committee Announces Eligibility for Memphis, Birdie, Donuts, Hamle
Posted: 12/10/09 at 6:08pmAfter Miss Julie and Oleanna are well-known? Oh, I guess that's why they did so well with grosses.
#7re: Tony Committee Announces Eligibility for Memphis, Birdie, Donuts, Hamle
Posted: 12/10/09 at 6:21pmThis makes no sense whatsoever! Last season, "The American Plan" was considered new, and yet this year it's totally different, even though "Oleanna" had a similar past (being off-Broadway). I just don't understand. I didn't realize the same thing had happened to "Little Shop of Horrors" a few years ago.
#8re: Tony Committee Announces Eligibility for Memphis, Birdie, Donuts, Hamle
Posted: 12/10/09 at 6:45pm
I think Oleanna had to be considered to be a revival. It has been produced many times over the years and was made into a film. It has definitely "entered the popular repertoire," which is one of the ways that a show becomes a revival without having previously appeared on Broadway.
On the other hand, has After Miss Julie even been performed in the United States before? I guess they're equating After Miss Julie to a revival of Strindberg's Miss Julie, which doesn't make much sense to me. I can only imagine that this happened because Roundabout wanted it that way, but I don't know why it would have. As has been true for most recent years, the Play Revival competition is much stiffer than the Best Play competition, so I don't know how that category placement is beneficial to Roundabout.
#9re: Tony Committee Announces Eligibility for Memphis, Birdie, Donuts, Hamle
Posted: 12/10/09 at 6:56pm
The only person in BIRDIE who deserves a Tony nomination IMO is Matt Doyle. But, unfortunately his role isn't near big enough to gain that sort of attention. But, he's still the best thing about that show IMO.
I wonder if Allie Trimm will be considered for a nomination...
#10re: Tony Committee Announces Eligibility for Memphis, Birdie, Donuts, Hamle
Posted: 12/10/09 at 7:09pmRoundabout touts After Miss Julie as a "provocative American premiere". It is a new play. Can anyone tell me why it is considered a revival? It is NOT a production of Strindberg's Miss Julie by any stretch of the imagination.
#11re: Tony Committee Announces Eligibility for Memphis, Birdie, Donuts, Hamle
Posted: 12/10/09 at 9:23pmI wonder sometimes if we don't sprend too much time worrying over what's a revival and what isn't. The bottom line is that there are slots available for filling under two (seemingly random?) headings, either one of which will leave it with a "Tony nominated...." or "Tony winning...." in future bios - and isn't that the most important thing?
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mamie4 5/14/03
#12re: Tony Committee Announces Eligibility for Memphis, Birdie, Donuts, Hamle
Posted: 12/10/09 at 9:51pmMamie, I'm not sure what you're saying. Following your suggestion, I guess they might put non musical plays in the musical category when there aren't a lot of new musicals. Who cares if the BEST musical wasn't a musical? Just so they can put "winning" in future bios. What?
#13re: Tony Committee Announces Eligibility for Memphis, Birdie, Donuts, Hamle
Posted: 12/10/09 at 9:59pmOh I'm not saying they should ignore musical/non musical categories because they're just too different and shouldn't be competing against each other. I do think that splitting new plays from revival plays (and new musicals from revival musicals) isn't much more than a ploy to give more awards. And that's not necessarily a bad thing. It's good for the producers, the actors, the director, etc. I just can't get excited about WHICH category (new or revival) a play or musical is assigned. (Just me I guess.)
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mamie4 5/14/03
#14re: Tony Committee Announces Eligibility for Memphis, Birdie, Donuts, Hamle
Posted: 12/10/09 at 10:05pmThe American Plan was re-worked before coming to Broadway last season. It was the first time that this version had been done. After Miss Julie, though "new-ish" has been done in this form in several locations, though never in New York. Typically shows in this scenario are considered revivals unless they are re-worked (as was the case with The American Plan).
iluvtheatertrash
Broadway Legend Joined: 11/9/04
#15re: Tony Committee Announces Eligibility for Memphis, Birdie, Donuts, Hamle
Posted: 12/11/09 at 6:46pm
'After Miss Julie' is NOT a new play. It's absolutely absurd that anyone says it is and that it's by Marber.
Anyone who has seen it, heard it, read it and knows Strindberg's original play will gladly tell you Marber did nothing but ADAPT the play. It's Miss Julie 2.0. Nothing more, nothing less.
I agree wholeheartedly with the committee.
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