Tony Worthy Actors That Always End Up In Flops
#2
Posted: 4/10/08 at 8:47pm
How is Will Chase ALWAYS in flops. He was in Lennon and High Fidelity, yes, but that is just 2 shows. His other credits include a stint in RENT, Full Monty, and Miss Saigon.
Then let's look at Jenn Colella, she has been in 2 flops, but only 2 Broadway musicals. I don't think that 2 shows count as ALWAYS in flops. When you consider the odds that a show is a hit, the probability that people who have only been in 2 shows have been in 2 flops is over 60%.
Then let's look at Jenn Colella, she has been in 2 flops, but only 2 Broadway musicals. I don't think that 2 shows count as ALWAYS in flops. When you consider the odds that a show is a hit, the probability that people who have only been in 2 shows have been in 2 flops is over 60%.
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#3
Posted: 4/10/08 at 8:48pm
The thread is about the TONYS. The shows you named as hits ...Will Chase was a replacment. and not eligable for the TONY. The 2 times he has been, the shows were flops. That's the point of the thread.
#5
Posted: 4/10/08 at 8:53pm
The question is what actors who deserve TONYs are stuck in flops. I'm just pointing out that he may not be eligible for TONYs in some of his shows, but he is still not ALWAYS in in flops. And the point still holds about the odds that you are in a flop.
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#6
Posted: 4/10/08 at 8:55pm
Yeah, I think the original poster was referring to originating roles.
Christopher J. Hanke is about to have two flops under his belt, and he's quite talented.
Matt Cavenaugh has two flops under his belt.
Raul Esparza has only been in flops.
Christopher J. Hanke is about to have two flops under his belt, and he's quite talented.
Matt Cavenaugh has two flops under his belt.
Raul Esparza has only been in flops.
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"I have also met him in person, and I find him to be quite funny actually. Arrogant and often misinformed, but still funny."
-bjh2114 (on Michael Riedel)
#7
Posted: 4/10/08 at 8:59pm
Judy Kuhn was in Metropolis and Rags. Does that count?
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#8
Posted: 4/10/08 at 9:09pm
The first people who came to mind were Carmen Mathews and George S. Irving. They were both flop prone. Irving does have a Tony though for Irene, and he was married to Maria Karnilova for over fifty years. That alone makes him a winner!
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#9
Posted: 4/10/08 at 9:16pm
I wouldn't exactly call the Company revival a flop.
#10
Posted: 4/10/08 at 9:17pm
do revivals count, for the purpose of this thread?
#11
Posted: 4/10/08 at 9:33pm
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#12
Posted: 4/10/08 at 9:41pm
There have been numerous successful British actors/actresses whose success hasn't translated when brought to the US. Michael Ball comes to mind, at least with his two Broadway outings.
#13
Posted: 4/10/08 at 9:44pm
The Company revival didn't break even on its investment. It was a flop.
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#14
Posted: 4/10/08 at 9:45pm
I wouldn't exactly call the Company revival a flop.
It didn't make a penny. That's the definition of a flop.
It didn't make a penny. That's the definition of a flop.
"Winning a Tony this year is like winning Best Attendance in third grade: no one will care but the winner and their mom."
-Kad
"I have also met him in person, and I find him to be quite funny actually. Arrogant and often misinformed, but still funny."
-bjh2114 (on Michael Riedel)
-Kad
"I have also met him in person, and I find him to be quite funny actually. Arrogant and often misinformed, but still funny."
-bjh2114 (on Michael Riedel)
#15
Posted: 4/10/08 at 9:52pm
Money wise, yeah Company was a flop. Critically, though, it wasn't. I think there can be multiple levels or definitions of a flop.
#16
Posted: 4/10/08 at 10:06pm
Patricia Routledge
#17
Posted: 4/10/08 at 10:08pm
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#18
Posted: 4/10/08 at 10:08pm
The term "flop" is used to describe financial success. Critical flops are always called "critical flops" to distinguish them from actual "flops."
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#19
Posted: 4/10/08 at 10:11pm
i was going to say will chase when i saw this, but you beat me to it.
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#20
Posted: 4/10/08 at 10:13pm
Will Chase
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#21
Posted: 4/10/08 at 10:14pm
Since when is Will Chase a Tony worthy actor? I've never been that impressed.
#22
Posted: 4/10/08 at 10:15pm
the first person to come to mind was Christopher Hanke.
#23
Posted: 4/10/08 at 11:17pm
I don't know if she's Tony worthy, but perhaps Stephanie J. Block, she seems to have bad luck when originating roles.
#24
Posted: 4/10/08 at 11:25pm
Block made her Broadway debut originating in the HIT show THE BOY FROM OZ.
She then originated Elphaba in the National Tour of WICKED and won the Helen Hayes Award for Best Leading Actress in a Musical.
She only flopped in PIRATE QUEEN.
I'd say she's generally had some pretty good luck out of those three.
She then originated Elphaba in the National Tour of WICKED and won the Helen Hayes Award for Best Leading Actress in a Musical.
She only flopped in PIRATE QUEEN.
I'd say she's generally had some pretty good luck out of those three.
"Winning a Tony this year is like winning Best Attendance in third grade: no one will care but the winner and their mom."
-Kad
"I have also met him in person, and I find him to be quite funny actually. Arrogant and often misinformed, but still funny."
-bjh2114 (on Michael Riedel)
-Kad
"I have also met him in person, and I find him to be quite funny actually. Arrogant and often misinformed, but still funny."
-bjh2114 (on Michael Riedel)
#25
Posted: 4/10/08 at 11:27pm
Tom Hewitt- other than the Lion King and the Urinetown tour he has sadly not done well
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