Tony Worthy Actors That Always End Up In Flops
Tony Worthy Actors That Always End Up In Flops
esparza 333
Broadway Star Joined: 7/24/07
#1Tony Worthy Actors That Always End Up In Flops
Posted: 4/10/08 at 7:50pm
My tops are Jen Colella and Will Chase
i*heart*fame
Broadway Star Joined: 9/15/04
#2re: Tony Worthy Actors That Always End Up In Flops
Posted: 4/10/08 at 8:47pm
How is Will Chase ALWAYS in flops. He was in Lennon and High Fidelity, yes, but that is just 2 shows. His other credits include a stint in RENT, Full Monty, and Miss Saigon.
Then let's look at Jenn Colella, she has been in 2 flops, but only 2 Broadway musicals. I don't think that 2 shows count as ALWAYS in flops. When you consider the odds that a show is a hit, the probability that people who have only been in 2 shows have been in 2 flops is over 60%.
#2re: Tony Worthy Actors That Always End Up In Flops
Posted: 4/10/08 at 8:48pmThe thread is about the TONYS. The shows you named as hits ...Will Chase was a replacment. and not eligable for the TONY. The 2 times he has been, the shows were flops. That's the point of the thread.
i*heart*fame
Broadway Star Joined: 9/15/04
#4re: Tony Worthy Actors That Always End Up In Flops
Posted: 4/10/08 at 8:53pmThe question is what actors who deserve TONYs are stuck in flops. I'm just pointing out that he may not be eligible for TONYs in some of his shows, but he is still not ALWAYS in in flops. And the point still holds about the odds that you are in a flop.
#5re: Tony Worthy Actors That Always End Up In Flops
Posted: 4/10/08 at 8:55pm
Yeah, I think the original poster was referring to originating roles.
Christopher J. Hanke is about to have two flops under his belt, and he's quite talented.
Matt Cavenaugh has two flops under his belt.
Raul Esparza has only been in flops.
-Kad
"I have also met him in person, and I find him to be quite funny actually. Arrogant and often misinformed, but still funny."
-bjh2114 (on Michael Riedel)
Mattbrain
Broadway Legend Joined: 11/23/05
#6re: Tony Worthy Actors That Always End Up In Flops
Posted: 4/10/08 at 8:59pmJudy Kuhn was in Metropolis and Rags. Does that count?
nmartin
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/3/05
#7re: Tony Worthy Actors That Always End Up In Flops
Posted: 4/10/08 at 9:09pm
The first people who came to mind were Carmen Mathews and George S. Irving. They were both flop prone. Irving does have a Tony though for Irene, and he was married to Maria Karnilova for over fifty years. That alone makes him a winner!
Updated On: 4/10/08 at 09:09 PM
#8re: Tony Worthy Actors That Always End Up In Flops
Posted: 4/10/08 at 9:16pmI wouldn't exactly call the Company revival a flop.
TooDarnHot
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/7/08
#9re: Tony Worthy Actors That Always End Up In Flops
Posted: 4/10/08 at 9:17pmdo revivals count, for the purpose of this thread?
#10re: Tony Worthy Actors That Always End Up In Flops
Posted: 4/10/08 at 9:33pm
Karen Morrow and Susan Johnson, two of my favorite belters!
#11re: Tony Worthy Actors That Always End Up In Flops
Posted: 4/10/08 at 9:41pmThere have been numerous successful British actors/actresses whose success hasn't translated when brought to the US. Michael Ball comes to mind, at least with his two Broadway outings.
#12re: Tony Worthy Actors That Always End Up In Flops
Posted: 4/10/08 at 9:44pmThe Company revival didn't break even on its investment. It was a flop.
Wanting life but never knowing how
#13re: Tony Worthy Actors That Always End Up In Flops
Posted: 4/10/08 at 9:45pm
I wouldn't exactly call the Company revival a flop.
It didn't make a penny. That's the definition of a flop.
-Kad
"I have also met him in person, and I find him to be quite funny actually. Arrogant and often misinformed, but still funny."
-bjh2114 (on Michael Riedel)
#14re: Tony Worthy Actors That Always End Up In Flops
Posted: 4/10/08 at 9:52pmMoney wise, yeah Company was a flop. Critically, though, it wasn't. I think there can be multiple levels or definitions of a flop.
lvpblues
Broadway Star Joined: 2/18/04
#16re: Tony Worthy Actors That Always End Up In Flops
Posted: 4/10/08 at 10:08pmBrian d'Arcy James.
Who would play you in the movie? "Taye Diggs." --Brian d'Arcy James
#17re: Tony Worthy Actors That Always End Up In Flops
Posted: 4/10/08 at 10:08pmThe term "flop" is used to describe financial success. Critical flops are always called "critical flops" to distinguish them from actual "flops."
Wanting life but never knowing how
#18re: Tony Worthy Actors That Always End Up In Flops
Posted: 4/10/08 at 10:11pmi was going to say will chase when i saw this, but you beat me to it.
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#19re: Tony Worthy Actors That Always End Up In Flops
Posted: 4/10/08 at 10:13pmWill Chase
#20re: Tony Worthy Actors That Always End Up In Flops
Posted: 4/10/08 at 10:14pmSince when is Will Chase a Tony worthy actor? I've never been that impressed.
#21re: Tony Worthy Actors That Always End Up In Flops
Posted: 4/10/08 at 10:15pmthe first person to come to mind was Christopher Hanke.
zooxanthellae
Broadway Star Joined: 6/2/07
#22re: Tony Worthy Actors That Always End Up In Flops
Posted: 4/10/08 at 11:17pmI don't know if she's Tony worthy, but perhaps Stephanie J. Block, she seems to have bad luck when originating roles.
#23re: Tony Worthy Actors That Always End Up In Flops
Posted: 4/10/08 at 11:25pm
Block made her Broadway debut originating in the HIT show THE BOY FROM OZ.
She then originated Elphaba in the National Tour of WICKED and won the Helen Hayes Award for Best Leading Actress in a Musical.
She only flopped in PIRATE QUEEN.
I'd say she's generally had some pretty good luck out of those three.
-Kad
"I have also met him in person, and I find him to be quite funny actually. Arrogant and often misinformed, but still funny."
-bjh2114 (on Michael Riedel)
jonartdesigns
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/15/04
#24re: Tony Worthy Actors That Always End Up In Flops
Posted: 4/10/08 at 11:27pmTom Hewitt- other than the Lion King and the Urinetown tour he has sadly not done well
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