What is the purpose of the Angel subplot in Angels in America?
#1What is the purpose of the Angel subplot in Angels in America?
Posted: 2/7/15 at 5:25amSo I watch the HBO miniseries every February, and while I find the play very touching and a great work, I still am confused by the significance of the angel. What does she represent and why is she important to the play? What is Kushner trying to say through her character? Thanks for the help.
#2What is the purpose of the Angel subplot in Angels in America?
Posted: 2/7/15 at 9:47amDoesn't she represent the Angel of Death?
theatremom2
Understudy Joined: 5/22/03
#2What is the purpose of the Angel subplot in Angels in America?
Posted: 2/7/15 at 10:29am
As I recall, there is a lot about abandoment, change and survival in this. God abandons heaven and the angles and they think if they have a new prophet, he will come back. (The scene where Roy Cohen volunteers to represent God in Family Court is hysterical, but I don't remember it being in the TV series). It kind of counterpoints what is happening to the human charcters. Prior is offered peace and eternal life if he just stops moving but "we were born to be explorers". You would have to write a thesis to explain this thing- and I'm sure many have. No matter what you say it seems an over simplification. The angels are glorious but stagnant. Humans, not so much, but ever changing.
Updated On: 2/7/15 at 10:29 AM
#3What is the purpose of the Angel subplot in Angels in America?
Posted: 2/7/15 at 2:06pmI think you need to rethink your definition of "subplot." The Angel is the plot. I also don't think the Angel represents one thing, Kushner's writing is too complex for that type of reading.
Phyllis Rogers Stone
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#4What is the purpose of the Angel subplot in Angels in America?
Posted: 2/7/15 at 3:54pmIt was originally called In America, but Kushner disliked the title. When he added the Angels to the title he added one to the script.
#5What is the purpose of the Angel subplot in Angels in America?
Posted: 2/7/15 at 3:58pm^ My favorite post of the day.
#6What is the purpose of the Angel subplot in Angels in America?
Posted: 2/7/15 at 4:14pmI also thought the Angel was many things - savior, prophet, teacher, etc. but not only for Prior,I thought it was interesting that the Angel sexually fulfilled Hannah.
theatremom2
Understudy Joined: 5/22/03
#7What is the purpose of the Angel subplot in Angels in America?
Posted: 2/7/15 at 5:08pmInteresting. Did the angels bring along the whole 'prophet' aspect? The angels make it so much more universal. And that piece about the Angel Bethesda is amazing. I don't think the play would have gained the statue it has without them
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#8What is the purpose of the Angel subplot in Angels in America?
Posted: 2/7/15 at 5:47pmThe Angel is there to give you chills when it says "look up!"
#9What is the purpose of the Angel subplot in Angels in America?
Posted: 2/7/15 at 6:06pm
In addition to points made above, the Angel is a Mormon reference, since Joseph Smith claimed that angels revealed the Book of Mormon and translated it for him.
Even in the OT, angels are the bearer of news (such as the one that appeared to Mary to announce she would have a child). The idea was that God Himself is too overwhelming to be viewed directly by humans, so he appears as a burning bush or sends angels to offer revelations.
It's true that in PERESTROIKA, the angel seems to be working on her own, but that was written years after the angel first appeared in MILLENNIUM.
#10What is the purpose of the Angel subplot in Angels in America?
Posted: 2/7/15 at 7:14pm
Even in the OT, angels are the bearer of news (such as the one that appeared to Mary to announce she would have a child).
Well that's in the NT, but I get your point.
Doesn't she even say that she is a messenger at one point?
Now I want to pull out my dvd and watch it again.
FindingNamo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
#11What is the purpose of the Angel subplot in Angels in America?
Posted: 2/7/15 at 8:26pmY'all know the angel's not real, right?
#12What is the purpose of the Angel subplot in Angels in America?
Posted: 2/7/15 at 8:37pmYes, FindingNamo, I was fairly certain that the angel wasn't real, but I was just confused on the literary significance of the character. You have all been very helpful; thank you.
theatremom2
Understudy Joined: 5/22/03
#13What is the purpose of the Angel subplot in Angels in America?
Posted: 2/7/15 at 8:42pmIf she was real, poor Prior would never get his damage deposit back from the landlord
#14What is the purpose of the Angel subplot in Angels in America?
Posted: 2/7/15 at 8:43pmWait. Why do you watch ANGELS IN AMERICA every February??
#15What is the purpose of the Angel subplot in Angels in America?
Posted: 2/7/15 at 8:47pmI don't really know, but it just happened three years in a row accidentally (because I always get the urge to watch it about once a year) and last year when I realized I had spaced it out by exactly a year every time, I just decided to make it a thing. Every year my appreciations and frustrations with the work increase.
#16What is the purpose of the Angel subplot in Angels in America?
Posted: 2/7/15 at 9:25pmI'm relieved to hear you say it's not a Valentine's tradition. I have never seen a stage production, but I tend to find the miniseries a mixed bag. There are so many moving and funny moments throughout, but there's also so much speechifying - which, I'm sure was captivating in the theatre - but which weighs everything down in a film. Even if one had no idea about the source material, it would be so obvious this was a stage work adapted (sort of) for the screen.
#17What is the purpose of the Angel subplot in Angels in America?
Posted: 2/7/15 at 10:11pmThat is exactly, like 100%, how I feel about the miniseries. I still think it's hilarious that Meryl Streep is the Rabbi at the beginning. Also, Prior Walter is one of my favorite characters in any movie, tv show, book, or play ever.
FindingNamo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
#18What is the purpose of the Angel subplot in Angels in America?
Posted: 2/7/15 at 10:36pmYou should see Prior NOT played by Justin Kirk.
#19What is the purpose of the Angel subplot in Angels in America?
Posted: 2/7/15 at 10:42pmI'm with HorseTears- yes, the miniseries certainly has its moments, but seeing the show live is an all together different and better experience. And actually, in relation to the Angel, the recent production at BAM cut quite a bit of the Angel and totally deleted the Council scene except for Prior's monologue. While some of the other cuts in the show stung (how I missed Prior's speech at the end) this one didn't bother me, and I actually enjoyed the 2nd Act more than I usually do.
#20What is the purpose of the Angel subplot in Angels in America?
Posted: 2/7/15 at 10:54pmFindingNamo, do you not like Justin Kirk in the miniseries?
#21What is the purpose of the Angel subplot in Angels in America?
Posted: 2/7/15 at 11:07pmI liked Justin Kirk, but like I said, the miniseries is my sole ANGELS experience. I wish Center Theatre Group would mount a major revival.
theatremom2
Understudy Joined: 5/22/03
#22What is the purpose of the Angel subplot in Angels in America?
Posted: 2/7/15 at 11:12pmI agree the Counsel scene goes on some. But isn't that where he gives back the book, denounces God's abandonment, and chooses life '..but still, still bless me anyway I want more life'. Thats the turning point of the play. I can't imagine it being cut
#23What is the purpose of the Angel subplot in Angels in America?
Posted: 2/7/15 at 11:15pmThat whole speech was there- honestly, I think it's one of the most important in the play. But all the I-I-I business was cut.
#24What is the purpose of the Angel subplot in Angels in America?
Posted: 2/7/15 at 11:17pm
I think declaring the angel "real" or "not real" oversimplifies. The piece is written very deliberately in a magical-realist style. The same rules do not necessarily apply as to standard realism or metaphorical treatment.
Magical-realism has never been big in the English-speaking world. It's much more strongly associated with Latin America and with Scandinavia. "Angels in America" may be the only major, canonical magical-realist work originally written in English.
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