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#51

re: Why is there an Electric Guitar in Lippa's WIld Party?

Thez, I dunno about hypocritical or not. I personally don't like lez Miz or Evita. But not all of your comments make sense. Actually MOST musical scores are just 1 style. I could name dozens, hundreds. Since we're talking about The Wild Party, LaChiusa's actually is one complete style as is Sweeney Todd or Hedwig, or Rent. Now if you're bored by any of those, then I'm afraid you have no pulse.

Secondly I don't think there is Lippa bashing. I actually like his score. I think the blame is tilted toward Michael Gibson the orchestrator.

Thirdly a musical doesn't HAVE to comment on the time period. A LOT don't. As a matter of fact, many shows wouldn't run if that were the case. Look at one of the most brilliant shows ever written Sunday in the Park with George. I personally do see where the late 19th century impressionistic musical influence is. Sondheim wrote in a contemporary style about a time period. I think what people are quibbling about is consistancy. It'd be weird to hear an electric guitar in the middle of Sunday. But if someone wrote an entire rock opera in that time period it'd be different.
#52

re: Why is there an Electric Guitar in Lippa's WIld Party?

jazzysuite, I guess what I mean by one musical style is a style significant to a period. This is were I became confused. People were arguing that Lippa's The Wild Party is not as credible because it isn't consistant with the period, when as far as I can tell LaChuisa's The Wild Party was the only musical mentioned that *is* consistant with the period (Honestly, LaChuisa's score bores me and I've never made it through the whole thing. And I bought this CD before Lippa's). Also, it was mentioned that Wild Party is all about the time period. Says who? I always thought the Wild Party was enthralling (both in poem form and on the stage) because of its plethora of characters to examine. The time period has little to do with the events of the story, other than the fact that the party takes place during prohibition, making their activities risky.

Les Miz, Sunday, etc. were all credited as being great musicals written in a "contemporary style about a time period." Why not use electric guitars in Sunday? Would it really be that distracting? I guess we'll never know. But if I'm not mistaken, in Lippa's version, an electric guitar plays the main theme at the end ("Queenie was a blonde..."), which signifies a pretty deliberate incorporation of the instrument. And the instrument, along with the style it eminates, is incorporated throughout, not just "thrown together and jumbled."

I guess all I'm trying to say is that I don't understand why people are criticizing an original and fresh approach to a dated story. If anything, I was more enthralled by the story because of the indication that these events are as haunting and threatening today as they were when the poem first came out. It was mentioned that the poem was banned at one point. I think this version really brings out the edge and bite that current audiences can tap into to become more connected with the original intent.

But that's just me. I really don't mean to be harsh, and I love hearing other people's views of material. I just really like this version and feel that it is successful in conveying a truly compelling story.

"Art is always in crisis: you must work fast to write in the breath on the window." -Edward Bond

Updated On: 1/20/06 at 01:07 PM

#53

re: Why is there an Electric Guitar in Lippa's WIld Party?

thez - I think you are misunderstanding my point.

First, "I don't think I could listen to late-1800's French music for 3 hours."

I said that as a joke.

My point is that, Les Mis through its entirety remains in the same style.

Lippa's TWP is contemporary at some points, and then jazzy, roaring '20's at other points.

This MAY work - however it doesn't for this specific piece.

TWP is about a certain time period as a cultural event (and the way it produced these certain characters). Les Mis is about a certain time period as historical story. Its themes are more universal.

In order for TWP to work, it needs to recreate the time period. Les Mis doesn't...for the reason that it is a universal, epic show.

It's also about style. Evita was written to be a rock show.

It's obvious TWP was written to be a time-piece from the '20's with contemporary nuances. Unfortunately, this plan wasn't executed well enough to be believable.

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"an original and fresh approach to a dated story"

First off, you can't call TWP a dated story as it has not been around for a long time (ie: in the public's eye). Most people didn't know what it was until Spiegelman found the poem, illustrated it, and had it released...I know LaChiusa used that version to write his musical, and I bet Lippa did as well.

Second, there is nothing original or fresh about Lippa's score. Considering it opened first, LaChiusa had the fresh take on the story (even though they were written at the same time).

Third, LaChiusa used the many different styles of the time PLUS his own nuances...contemporarily in HIS style. He was able to work it out that the piece was both vaudeville, jazz, and contemporary.

Can you spot the places where it is so 2000 contemporary? Not really, because LaChiusa blended it beautifully.

Lippa did not blend the two styles as well, and one stuck out like a sore thumb.


P.S. I do happen to enjoy Lippa's as a piece of musical theatre. But having read the poem (after listening to both shows) I have to argue LaChiusa's is much better suited to be called "THE WILD PARTY"

Updated On: 1/20/06 at 01:26 PM

#56

re: Why is there an Electric Guitar in Lippa's WIld Party?

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I just don't understand why one has to better than the other (better suited to the story, better music, better whatever). I don't doubt LaChuisa's ability to "blend the two styles," but I guess what it comes down to is I think Lippa's version possesses more of the raw energy and passion of the plot. And saying that LaChuisa wrote the music in "HIS" style...every artist has a style, so I'm not quite sure what you're trying to argue. That LaChuisa made it sound "LaChuisa" and that's why it's so great?!

I guess I feel much more compelled and entranced by Lippa's work.
"Art is always in crisis: you must work fast to write in the breath on the window." -Edward Bond

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