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#26

re: Wicked did not win a Tony???

Posted: 9/4/05 at 2:54am

And technically, didn't it win like two or three Tonys? For designing and stuff, right?

Oh, and yeah.. IDINA won the Tony, right? Oh yeah. That's what I thought.

#27

re: Wicked did not win a Tony???

Posted: 9/4/05 at 3:19am

The original poster thought it deserved Best Musical. But she saw it last week for the first time, so I am assuming she didn't see any of the competitors. (if she has seen any other show at all)

Idina: This is called a kielbasa! Pianist: It's called a 'KA-basa'... Idina: It's called a kabasa? Oh, a KIEL-basa's a sausage, isn't it? I CAN PLAY THAT TOO! HULLO!!

#28

re: Wicked did not win a Tony???

Posted: 9/4/05 at 7:39am

aegeusrocks, sweetheart, PLEASE stop referring to The American Theater Wing as "The Academy". This isn't the Oscars, darling. This is Broadway, welcome.

"Winning a Tony this year is like winning Best Attendance in third grade: no one will care but the winner and their mom."
-Kad

"I have also met him in person, and I find him to be quite funny actually. Arrogant and often misinformed, but still funny."
-bjh2114 (on Michael Riedel)

#29

re: Wicked did not win a Tony???

Posted: 9/4/05 at 10:51am

Wicked is a hit among the audiences and fans.

Wicked is a financially sucessful show, but not critically.

"You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view - until you climb into his skin and walk around in it."
To Kill A Mockingbird

#30

re: Wicked did not win a Tony???

Posted: 9/4/05 at 10:54am

Who cares about the critics we shouldn't be basing our theatre veiwing on what one person thinks....

and also Idina is green covered screaming banchie that can't sing properly, yes it was rigged i mean why else did she win

#31

re: Wicked did not win a Tony???

Posted: 9/4/05 at 11:00am

Thank you! I definately agree. I never let critics stop me, because usually what they think is bad can actually be great.

"You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view - until you climb into his skin and walk around in it."
To Kill A Mockingbird

#32

re: Wicked did not win a Tony???

Posted: 9/4/05 at 11:03am

Typically, we as theatre goers are critics.

In my personal opinion, Wicked didn't win Best Musical because it wasn't the Best Musical that year.

I think Wicked has two or three really great songs, but the story is rather simplistic and it has quite a few weaknesses.

All that being said, if it brings younger people to the theatre and gets them hooked and helps make "theatre cool again" like Rent did in the mid to late 90s (and will probably do again with the movie release) I am all for it - flawed or not.

Edit: Now if they'd only make BroadwayWorld Search Feature: The Musical and cast Ideenzala Matzala as the lead, both worlds could live in peace.

Updated On: 9/4/05 at 11:03 AM

#33

re: Wicked did not win a Tony???

Posted: 9/4/05 at 11:13am

Wicked was the second Broadway show I've seen and I think it definately should have won best musical. I am a freshman in college and is located close to NYC so I now have the opportunity to see a lot of shows. The only other show I saw was Brooklyn and thought it was amazing as well but not as good as wicked. What other shows should I see that are just as good or better than wicked?

#34

re: Wicked did not win a Tony???

Posted: 9/4/05 at 11:23am

That are currently playing that I personally feel are better than Wicked:

The Light in the Piazza
Dirty Rotten Scoundrels
25th Annual Putnam County Spelling Bee
Rent
Sweet Charity
The Producers
Avenue Q

If you like plays I understand that Pillowman is fantastic, but it's closing soon.

Although, the problem is that these are all different in style to Wicked. It may simply be that you like a specific style of musical and there is nothing wrong with that.

While it does tend to get a little annoying when we have a lot of "Wicked is the best" posts in here, I value everyone's opinion and you have definately expressed in a more articulate way than we are used to.

If it seems that people were rude, it's just that everyone is quick to jump on these things.

Updated On: 9/4/05 at 11:23 AM

#35

re: Wicked did not win a Tony???

Posted: 9/4/05 at 11:31am

wow, Patronus! i'm in awe at your tolerence!

"Picture "The View," with the wisecracking, sympathetic sweethearts of that ABC television show replaced by a panel of embittered, suffering or enraged Arab women" -the Times review of Black Eyed

#36

re: Wicked did not win a Tony???

Posted: 9/4/05 at 11:43am

Yeah, it's early and I am sure it is the indirect effect of watching so much Katrina coverage lately.

She doesn't strike me as one of these trollish I<3Idina-esque posters who has no interest in intelligent discussion, but rather as a Wicked fan who is at least interested in hearing other people's opinions.

There is still plenty of time for me to be proven wrong though.

Alright...I am off for a jog.

Updated On: 9/4/05 at 11:43 AM

#37

re: Wicked did not win a Tony???

Posted: 9/4/05 at 11:47am

and yet the latest newbie with the most ridiculous post.....yawn

It is ridiculous to set a detective story in New York City. New York City is itself a detective story... AGATHA CHRISTIE, Life magazine, May 14, 1956

#38

re: Wicked did not win a Tony???

Posted: 9/4/05 at 11:50am

Ave Q's win had a lot to do with their "plan of attack" towards voters. VOte with your heart, I believe was their slogan. I believe they even promised a lot of out of town voters a tour, which as we know, never happened.

#39

re: Wicked did not win a Tony???

Posted: 9/4/05 at 2:15pm

Excuse me, why is this such a ridiculous post? Is it common on this board to criticize people who just post a question in hope that people will talk about it? If people dont like the topic why cant you ignore it and not post some stupid and rude comment about it. You people are not very friendly to new people on this board!

#40

re: Wicked did not win a Tony???

Posted: 9/4/05 at 2:46pm

Yes. We're friendly to the people on this board, as long as you don't post more threads about Wicked. Use a search button. Use google. Anything. Someone posted the number of wicked threads, but I've forgotten. It was a lot. This is just one more on the list.

But, welcome to BWW! Have fun and I promise we're not mean.

#41

re: Wicked did not win a Tony???

Posted: 9/4/05 at 3:25pm

I think people's reaction has a lot to do with timing, too. Yes Wicked lost best musical, like it or not. But it was at over a YEAR AGO. So, the post is a little out of date. There were, I am sure, countless posts about the subject then.

You are very lucky to be in school so close. Catch a few more shows. I bet you would love Avenue Q. And if Ana takes over when Shoshana departs, you should see Wicked again.

ETA: Elphaba, did you ever check your private messages?

Idina: This is called a kielbasa! Pianist: It's called a 'KA-basa'... Idina: It's called a kabasa? Oh, a KIEL-basa's a sausage, isn't it? I CAN PLAY THAT TOO! HULLO!!

Updated On: 9/4/05 at 03:25 PM

#42

re: Wicked did not win a Tony???

Posted: 9/4/05 at 3:32pm

I would love to see Ana and Megan!

Megan and Idina - that would kill me!

Megan
Idina
Carole
Joey
Chris
Michelle
Sean

#43

re: Wicked did not win a Tony???

Posted: 9/4/05 at 4:04pm

I agree, Caroline or Change should have won. I very much enjoyed Wicked and am actually seeing it again on tour. I can't bring myself to see Avenue Q 1. Because I just don't like the OBCR so I know I probably won't enjoy the show and 2. They pretty much, in my opinion, bought that Tony for Best Musical. My choice for Best Actress would have been Ms. Chenoweth. Loved her!

Just give the world Love. - S. Wonder

#44

re: Wicked did not win a Tony???

Posted: 9/4/05 at 4:25pm

this post is overkill. this was so long ago. forget about it and enjoy the show for what it is.

"you can take the girl out of Hicksville, but you can't take the Hicksville out of the girl." ~Rent

#45

re: Wicked did not win a Tony???

Posted: 9/4/05 at 5:29pm

Avenue Q is a great show that deserved to beat Wicked for Best Musical. It also won because Urinetown didn't, and a lot of voters felt it was time to "vote their hearts" and not their wallets.

#46

re: Wicked did not win a Tony???

Posted: 9/4/05 at 6:55pm

I think part of why Avenue Q won was because the Theatre Wing wanted to encourage more 'little shows' and new composers... I mean, think about it. Shows that normally win the Tony Award are big smash-hit spectacles like Hairspray, Spamalot, The Producers, and... well... Wicked. Therefore people think that in order to be a success on Broadway you need to have these huge, elaborate shows... it must be very discouraging to young composers knowing not many producers are going to take a chance on a small-scale show. So I think part of what was going through the minds of the voters was 'This will show everyone that yeah, you can take a small show by and starring a bunch of unknowns and have it be a success.'

#47

re: Wicked did not win a Tony???

Posted: 9/4/05 at 8:07pm

maybe because Avenue Q is a million times better and more original? hmmm... yes!

#48

re: Wicked did not win a Tony???

Posted: 9/4/05 at 8:20pm

don't get mad at me, but this is what i HEARD

well, i heard that ave. q won because it was supposed to go on tour, and rake in lots of money, and wicked wasn't supposed to go on tour. and that's why it was named best musical, so when it went on tour, it would attract more people. but in the end, wicked went on tour, and ave. q didn't. and that the people of ave. q got in a lot of trouble.

that's just what i HEARD.

*avoids tomatoes*

#49

re: Wicked did not win a Tony???

Posted: 9/4/05 at 8:32pm

Does it really matter? and I love how Elphaba237484745847464674745846474847 is basing all this on the recording.

#50

re: Wicked did not win a Tony???

Posted: 9/4/05 at 8:42pm

She saw the show a few weeks ago and really loved it. Now she has the cast recording. Cut her a slight break. While she probably should have taken the time to read the board and see how it works, she is just enthusiastic. She is interested and she is learning.

Idina: This is called a kielbasa! Pianist: It's called a 'KA-basa'... Idina: It's called a kabasa? Oh, a KIEL-basa's a sausage, isn't it? I CAN PLAY THAT TOO! HULLO!!

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