Wicked loosing to Avenue Q!?- Page 3

[secret-soul]

Posted: 6/13/04 at 7:18pm

"Issue #3 I need some soda..."

ooh me too...I'd really love some pepsi right now...

[BroadwayDiva]

Posted: 6/13/04 at 7:22pm

This is pathetic. Sure, everyone is entitled to their opinion, but this thread is, as I said before, pathetic. Wicked is not the greatest musical on earth right now. The greatest musicals closed years ago. Avenue Q is great, Wicked's fine. Like someone said: It's an opinion!! Why are you getting so worked up about it?

[broadwaybondchik]

Posted: 6/13/04 at 7:31pm

I got nothin...

[BwayTheatre11]

Posted: 6/13/04 at 10:33pm

I am going to keep my mouth shut. You are just asking for this when you say things like "sue me" and "boo ya."

[iflitifloat]

Posted: 6/13/04 at 10:43pm

"I think it's quite obvious that WiCkEDrOcKS is indeed Wickedfan"

How can you possibly keep them all straight enough to tell?

[Sumofallthings]

Posted: 6/13/04 at 10:47pm

"How can you possibly keep them all straight enough to tell? "

Don't blame this all on the straight guys!

[luvtheEmcee]

Posted: 6/13/04 at 10:53pm

oh dear... I'm obviously quite late to this thread... but I was actually just asked to write something about the Tonys, and I focused on Wicked and Avenue Q, since they are clearly forming the root of most of the controversy. I would post it up here, but it's VERY long. I'm going to pm it to the person who started this thread, to make my point, and to anyone else who would like to read it (if y'all are curious). Anyway, basically what I said was that Avenue Q is HARDLY "just a puppet show." I really do enjoy Wicked, but I feel like it's a lot more about the physical show - the big, glitzy musical. There is definitely something to it, but I think that because Avenue Q lacks that huge musical production stuff, it's better on focusing what's at its core... being the way that it approaches life with the honesty and sincerity and cleverness that I think a lot of shows (Wicked included) may be lacking. That's what I said in short... guys, please don't think that I hate Wicked. I also didn't want to post what I wrote as a whole because I didn't want to be attacked for hating Wicked because I really don't... I promise. Anyway... if you'd like to see that, send me a pm. If not, there's my two cents. Take it for what you'd like.

[broadwaystar2b]

Posted: 6/13/04 at 11:21pm

You know, it's possible to like both. It's also possible to like neither. And it's just as possible to start losing interest in one because certain people unjustly feel they have to express their bitter hate against the other simply because it has a title that only a select few were able to give it in the first place. AND it's entirely probable that there's nothing anyone can do about that.

[BwayTheatre11]

Posted: 6/13/04 at 11:24pm

Riiiggghtt.

[Jamie Hat]

Posted: 6/16/04 at 12:36pm

There is more to the Tony's than who is "best".

The Producers of WICKED should realize that their show will be fine in NY and on the road no matter what, whereas Avenue Q needs a little help to survive. Ave Q would have a few issues playing tour towns like Salt Lake City. NOTICE THAT THEY CANCELLED THE TOUR. Hmmm.

The Wicked folks have a right to be pissed.

It's great for young writers. And blows for those writers who are far overdue for the award. (Though he has 3 Oscars, he'll get over it)

[boborunstheshow]

Posted: 6/16/04 at 12:44pm

im fairly certain that there would be a market for AQ in Mormonville. Maryln manson sold out there i believe

[meagan9848]

Posted: 6/18/04 at 3:59am

This is rediculous. I'm not gonna lie, I'm a HUGE fan of Wicked...I've seen it plenty and I've had some decent conversations with some cast members. Here's my 2 cents...

Let's drop it. So what, they lost the freggin Tony. Not SUCH a big deal, it's not like they're closing the show...they just didn't get the statue. Was I a little upset at first? Yeah, sure I was, I thought that Wicked had a lock on best musical.

To the people who are STILL bitching: Have you seen Avenue Q? Have you even heard the music or did you just look at a picture and tell yourself you wouldn't like it?

I bought the recordings on the same day...yes, I took a stronger liking to Wicked but I still LOVE avenue Q. I wake up to it every morning...the first song just sets a good mood for the day.

Then I saw both of them...they're VERY different. I don't even see a way to compare them well. Avenue Q. is much more modern, it's young, it's fun, and it's freaking helarious.

I know this probably won't talk any sense into anyone and the bitterness and hostility will continue. I'll probably also get myself ripped a new one but I don't care. I've been lurking on this board for 2 years now...I never posted because the arguing, and sarcasm (not all sarcasm is bad but when it's rude...) drives me crazy.

Everyone is going to have different opinions, respect theirs as you want them to respect yours...I'm not saying you have to like it or agree...not at all- just show some respect.

Same thing with the TONY voters. The 735 of them collectively had an opinion different than some of ours. Just try to respect their reasoning...there are PLENTY of reasons Av. Q is deserving of that award.

You don't see the fans of BOY FROM OZ or CAROLINE OR CHANGE on here bitching about the Tony's a week later...even as a huge fan of Wicked coming on here and seeing SOOO many wicked posts clogging this Broadway board is EXTREMELY annoying, so, imagine someone that HATES the show coming on here and seeing 5 wicked threads and then a relevant thread buried in the middle of them. Again, back to repect.

If you want a place to discuss wicked and don't know of one here are a few...

http://www.KristinChenoweth.com/forum/http://www.KristinChenoweth.com/forum/>http://www.KristinChenoweth.com/forum/ -There's a wicked forum there AND a Kristin forum and most often questions I read here have already been answered there

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Defyers_of_Gravity/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Defyers_of_Gravity/>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Defyers_of_Gravity/ -Wicked's "official" fan club. There's photos, files, and TONS of info there...

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Kristin_Chenoweth_Fanclub/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Kristin_Chenoweth_Fanclub/>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Kristin_Chenoweth_Fanclub/ -GLITTER Kristin's official fanclub run by the one and only Jamie Lyn...

http://s4.invisionfree.com/Glitter/index.php?act=idxhttp://s4.invisionfree.com/Glitter/index.php?act=idx>http://s4.invisionfree.com/Glitter/index.php?act=idx -GLITTER's message board

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/idina/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/idina/>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/idina/ -A yahoo! group for IDINA.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Wickedly_OZmopolitan/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Wickedly_OZmopolitan/>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Wickedly_OZmopolitan/ -ANOTHER WICKED yahoo! group, not an official club or anything but it serves it's purpose.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MichelleFederer/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MichelleFederer/>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MichelleFederer/ -A MICHELL FEDERER yahoo! group...not as big as some of the others, but useful none the less.

http://wickedonbway.proboards24.com/http://wickedonbway.proboards24.com/>http://wickedonbway.proboards24.com/ -ANOTHER WICKED message board


WEBSITES
http://www.musicalschwartz.comhttp://www.musicalschwartz.com>http://www.musicalschwartz.com (fan)
http://www.wickedthemusical.comhttp://www.wickedthemusical.com>http://www.wickedthemusical.com (official)
http://www.kristinchenoweth.comhttp://www.kristinchenoweth.com>http://www.kristinchenoweth.com (official)
http://www.idinamenzel.comhttp://www.idinamenzel.com>http://www.idinamenzel.com (official)
http://www.wickedonbroadway.nethttp://www.wickedonbroadway.net>http://www.wickedonbroadway.net (fan)

I hope this helped someone...