Wicked- No Flying for Dame.- Page 3

[broadwaybabe3]

Posted: 7/27/05 at 9:46pm

Where did you see the video of Stephanie talking about flying, because a lot of people i know said they saw it online but i can't find it anywhere.

[VoiceofReason]

Posted: 7/27/05 at 9:59pm

I just think if they had her moving around more, or even doing a 'Peter Pan' fly--it would have just looked hokey. I'm not saying that the moment as it is is the most sophisticated possibility, but the way Peter flies in 'Pan' works becase of the story--the musical is a true fairytale story where we all expect and love that type of flying, as it is what makes the most sense. For the one moment in Wicked--it makes sense to have her simply rise and belt it out--this is her diva/comingofage/determination/findingherself moment, where the focus is what shes saying, not how shes moving. I'm not trying to make the moment seem more intelligent than it is, but i think it makes sense that they just move her to a powerful position instead of fiddling with silly flying tricks.

Updated On: 7/27/05 at 09:59 PM

[loganp37]

Posted: 7/27/05 at 10:04pm

I totally agreee VoiceofReason, if there were anything more with 'fancy flying tricks' going on the audience would be confused and not able to comprehend the very simple lyrics.

[StephanietheStar]

Posted: 7/27/05 at 10:04pm

someone may have said this but..

So we have the technology right? they tried to do an effect with Elphaba sitting on the broom as she flies in, for No Good Deed, guess what?? Stephanie got hurt..and is still recovering :) I like the effect in DG just fine, especially if it keeps the girls who do it from getting hurt.

[loganp37]

Posted: 7/27/05 at 10:11pm

I realize the effect was cut, but how did she fly in in NGD?

I have only seen the tour in Chicago and it was not in the production.

[StephanietheStar]

Posted: 7/27/05 at 10:27pm

she was supposed to fly in sitting on the broom....


but the equipment went crazy and Steph was hurt...so they cut it.

[sidneybruhl]

Posted: 7/27/05 at 10:42pm

I saw Derrick Williams as Fiyero and he is not in any way, shape, or form effeminate! I found him to be very masculine and effective in the role! As for the Elphaba's flying, when it works properly it is very effective--I've seen the show three times and it never fails to give me goosebumps. The "special effect" is the emotions conjured by the final moments of Act I. "Defying Gravity" ranks with the best Act I closers ever!

[StephanietheStar]

Posted: 7/27/05 at 10:44pm

yay for Sydney! I agree 100% with what you just said :)

[cindy013]

Posted: 7/27/05 at 11:19pm

hehe- I was thinking about what someone said(jokingly!) on the last page about the DG effect not working because it wouldn't close around their waist- when Stephanie was explaining it in the Chicago news clip I couldn't believe how small of a space that was, and she is SKINNY, but that thing locked in pretty darn close around her, and I was wondering how that works when she has the costume on and everything. I know that's probably not the reason, but still- how funny would it be if she was like "Yeah, I had a big dinner so I'm not going to be able to defy gravity tonight because I don't think I'll be able to fit in the cherry picker." *burp*
teehee!

It's late, give me a break

[bwayfan4]

Posted: 7/27/05 at 11:46pm

Broadwaybabe, here you go. The first clip is a news story in LA.

http://kcbs.dayport.com/viewer/viewerpage.php?Art_ID=7660&tf=video_player.tpl&Category_ID=73

http://cbs2chicago.com/insidechicago/local_story_156222934.html
Updated On: 7/27/05 at 11:46 PM

[DAME]

Posted: 7/27/05 at 11:56pm

Oh my god. I had to work really hard today . Meetings back to back. And all I kept thinking during the day is .. I wonder what kind of life my Wicked review thread posting from last night has taken. You all crack me up and do not dissapoint me. I have sat here for the last 5 minutes laughing my ass off.

[TabooPhan1]

Posted: 7/28/05 at 2:16am

My personal opinion about the scene is that it was actually done quite tastefully. It's already been mentioned that the scene is not actually about the effects, but the emotions, and I agree fully. Obviously the broom is an essential part of the scene, but really if you listen to the lyrics, perhaps this is deeper than we're looking. This scene is about Elphaba's independence and her letting go of the idealistic par of her. The fact that the broom is there is one thing, but the fact that she is flying at all is the real plot point. This scene is more about Elphaba declairing her independence than making a cool picture. Personally, when I first saw it in previews before the hype and stuff I was in the mid-mezzanine to the side and I thought it was the most adrenaline-pumping scene I'd seen in a while. It's become real easy to criticize after it's been broken down and analyzed and looked at a hundred times, but when I think of how it made me feel when it was just raw and new, and how just listening to it makes me feel, I don't think that's rivaled by "I'm Flying" in Peter Pan. I think so many people have accepted the fact that it's a "hit" musical and call it a teeny-bopper show, that they don't see these little things that are actually much deeper than some people care to look.

[surfnchica37]

Posted: 7/28/05 at 4:03am

does anyone know where i can get "wicked" tic for around $150.00 each? im desperate!!!!

[DAME]

Posted: 7/28/05 at 9:40am

WHy are you desperate? It is not like this show wont be back again and again. Why are you desperate?

[bwayfan4]

Posted: 7/28/05 at 12:29pm

Try the cancellation line. Just get there early!

[AllNite429]

Posted: 7/28/05 at 1:57pm

The first time I saw Idina fly in Defying Gravity I was so amazed. As many have said here, the lighting, singing, music, fog, and just sheer drama of the act 1 finale had be sucked in and I wasn't looking anywhere but at Idina. Since I have now see the show 4 more times (in NY only... I'm seeing it in Chicago and San Fran in September) the flying sequence has lost a little bit of it's appeal, but I still think it's great. It isn't about how she's flying or the fact she's holding thr broom... it's just the drama of everything leading up to that point and the vocals at that point in the song.

[redhotinnyc2]

Posted: 7/28/05 at 2:02pm

"I totally agreee VoiceofReason, if there were anything more with 'fancy flying tricks' going on the audience would be confused and not able to comprehend the very simple lyrics."

Exactly one of the reasons I dislike the show so much. none of the depth of the book - only "very simple lyrics" geared to a majority of the ticket buying public. She's a frigging WITCH for chrissakes - SHE SHOULD FLY. There is no magic in the show at all - and thats what people expect.

[surfnchica37]

Posted: 7/28/05 at 2:11pm

i know but i want to see it one more time before it leaves la. anyone now anyone selling tix? and how sure is the cancelation line?

[LA Guy]

Posted: 7/28/05 at 3:35pm

This reminds me of one time when I saw MISS SAIGON in NYC and the helicopter never came down at the end of the "Nightmare" sequence.

What was funny, is that after the show, two women sitting behind me got up and said, "For all the talk of the helicopter, I don't see what's so big about it..." They never even realized that what they saw was not supposed to happen.

I think the same thing can be said of "Defying Gravity." She almost didn't fly, and I was upset because I knew she was supposed to. But if I had no idea she was supposed to, I don't know that I would have noticed!

[WickedGeek28]

Posted: 7/28/05 at 4:07pm

Whoever said that the song isn't about flying is correct. If you compltely understnad the show, and not the whole oo they were friends!, the song has to do with diversity, not flying.

[SueleenGay]

Posted: 7/28/05 at 4:29pm

[Hanna from Hamburg]

Posted: 7/28/05 at 4:30pm

Sueleen -- can you send her over after the show to trim my trees?

LOL

[WickedGeek28]

Posted: 7/28/05 at 4:31pm

hahaha i love it!

[Radioactiveduck]

Posted: 7/28/05 at 4:52pm

I agree with the people who like Derrick Williams. The ALAYM w/ Steph was almost porny.

Adam Lambert is freaking awesome as fiyero. I saw him go his first night, and I liked him better than Norbert. And he's really nice too.

I can't believe the flying broke. The song really doesn't work w/ out it. C'mon, give the Wicked people some credit, the machine is slightly more complicated than a cherry picker.

Sufinchica, the cancellation line only has about 5 or 6 tickets per show usualy. You might want ot try one of the various scalper sites for tickets. They'll be expensive, but you can go see the show.

[Popular]

Posted: 7/28/05 at 4:59pm

ALMOST PORNY????

LOL. Find yourself something REALLY steamy to watch and then get back to me. :)