Posted: 5/20/15 at 4:04pm
Lincoln Center seemed to always have a show or two downtown . I know a lot of the old regime retired after The Nance . I think they were involved in Disgraced ?Will They be back ?
Posted: 5/20/15 at 4:21pm
Posted: 5/20/15 at 4:23pm
Disgraced was originally produced at LCT3, which they're still doing at the Claire Tow Theater. Since I don't think LCT3 shows were always done onsite at Lincoln Center, is that what you're thinking of?
Updated On: 5/20/15 at 04:23 PM
Posted: 5/20/15 at 4:24pm
Posted: 5/20/15 at 4:28pm
I think they are more inclined to do so when the Vivian Beaumont Theater has a long running show (such as South Pacific and War Horse), and they want to offer another show to their subscribers.
Posted: 5/20/15 at 5:03pm
Seeing as though the Beaumont will be occupied for the foreseeable future, it seems quite likely that they will do shows next season downtown (relative to their home space).
Posted: 5/20/15 at 7:08pm
Calling the theatre district "downtown" is a faux pas. Downtown is below 14th Street.
Posted: 5/20/15 at 7:23pm
"Calling the theatre district "downtown" is a faux pas. Downtown is below 14th Street."
You're incorrect. if the OP had said specifically "Downtown Manhattan" or more commonly "Lower Manhattan", you would be correct. However, technically "The terms downtown and uptown can refer to cardinal directions, for example, in Manhattan, where downtown is also a relative geographical term. Anything south of where the speaker is currently standing, in most places, is said to be downtown." Also, "Downtown is a term primarily used in North America by English speakers to refer to a city's core (or center) or central business district (CBD), often in a geographical, commercial, or communal sense."
Posted: 5/20/15 at 7:32pm
Paging Petula Clark!
Posted: 5/21/15 at 1:37pm
Posted: 5/21/15 at 2:02pm
Fisherman,
Over the course of a half century, I have never ever heard anyone in New York (other than perhaps a tourist) use the expression "downtown" to refer to Times Square, under any circumstance. While it is certainly true that other places call the CBD "downtown," that is decidedly not the case in NYC (where it is often hard to imagine what constitutes the CBD), nor is it ever used in the cardinal sense you suggest. It is a matter of usage, just like many other local and regional usages and pronunciations. When someone says something that pegs them as an "alien," it seems to me it is kind to let them know, as I did. If someone wants to persist, they obviously can. People are also free to pronounce "Houston" like a Texan, ask where the nearest tube station is and the like, but I would think most people would rather avoid being identified as a rube.
Posted: 5/21/15 at 2:46pm
Hogan, if you grew up on Dyckman Street, in the Bronx or in Yonkers, if you were taking the subway to go to Macy's or to see a Knicks game at the Garden or were going to see a show, people referred to it as going downtown all the time and they're hardly tourists or "rubes". Perhaps its technical definition is "mid-town" but I never heard a person say I'm going to Mid-town. It's all relative as to where your starting point is (as I tried to point out) and while 14th street may be considered the formal beginning of Lower Manhattan, I think you would be hard pressed to find someone who considered 13th street as being downtown but not 16th street.
Updated On: 5/21/15 at 02:46 PM
Posted: 5/21/15 at 2:53pm
This is so much hair splitting.
Lincoln Center is uptown from the theatre district.
The Theatre District is downtown from Lincoln Center.
The Theatre District is not considered the "downtown" portion of NYC.
Updated On: 5/21/15 at 02:53 PM
Posted: 5/21/15 at 3:22pm
sorry guys but "doing shows downtown" does not mean doing them in Times Square. Ever. Yes, people refer to taking the "downtown train" to go from the Bronx to Times Square but that is because that is where the train is headed. Fisherman, do people who live in the Bronx who are going to Washington Heights for dinner say they are having dinner downtown? We both know the answer, but under your nonsense, they would. And by the way, we are not talking about people in the Bronx, we are talking about people at broadway and 65th Street referencing Times Sq as downtown and that's preposterous. And also, people refer to midtown and midtown west all the time. I happen to live in Midtown West but I certainly don't live downtown. And yes Kad, uptown and downtown can be used directionally (as I indicated re the trains) but that does not make a location downtown when it is not. Likewise if I take a train south to Philadelphia, I am not thereby in the South.
Posted: 5/21/15 at 3:24pm
Posted: 5/21/15 at 3:29pm
I hope this continues, though, because it's truly a riveting read.
Posted: 5/21/15 at 5:14pm
Well, it all ultimately led to Petula Clark and some clips I can watch so that's a good thing. Saw her in Sunset Boulevard during my first trip to London in 1997. Just wonderful.
Posted: 5/21/15 at 6:36pm
have we segued to the proper syllable to stress in Ms. Clark's first name yet?
Posted: 5/21/15 at 7:41pm
I'm glad Lincoln Center theater will eventually return to doing shows DOWNTOWN.
Posted: 5/21/15 at 7:58pm
rocks2, you can't return to something you never did in the first place. Unlike some theatres that have downtown roots, LCT sprung like a phoenix from the ashes of the slum that occupied the west 60s in the mid 1950s.
Posted: 5/21/15 at 9:31pm
Updated On: 5/21/15 at 09:31 PM
Posted: 5/21/15 at 9:38pm
Downtown is not Midtown. These two things are not the same. In the context of this conversation, "Downtown" would presumably refer to lower Manhattan. Not 'downtown from Lincoln Center,' which could imply a number of different neighborhoods & districts (lower east side? lower west side? Midtown? Staten Island? LI City?). For sake of clarity, one could safely assume that the most commonly accepted description of the theater district is Midtown. Not Downtown. I suppose if this website solely catered to people in the Bronx or in Yonkers, it would be a different story. But alas, this is not the case.
Posted: 5/21/15 at 9:46pm
I think the poster was referring to Houston Street, which is pronounced "house tun" not "huu ston".
