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"Woman In White" pushed back

"Woman In White" pushed back

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#0"Woman In White" pushed back
Posted: 2/9/05 at 12:01pm

Webber's new musical "The Woman in White" has been pushed back for it's Broadway opening. Originally scheduled to open in November 2005, the show will now arrive on Broadway at a Nederlander theatre in the spring of 2006. The show will first have a pre-Broadway tryout in Chicago. The link to the Playbill.com article is below.
Woman in White article


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umgeoboy
#1re: 'Woman In White' pushed back
Posted: 2/9/05 at 12:25pm

it does not look good for this musical! (or for ALW)


"Judy Garland, Jimmy Dean, You tragedy Queen" ~ Taboo

"Watching a frat boy realize just what he put his d!ck in...ex's getting std's...schadenfruede" ~ Ave Q

"when dangers near, exploit their fear" ~ Reefer Madness the Musical

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buskeat
#2re: 'Woman In White' pushed back
Posted: 2/9/05 at 12:47pm

"The Woman in White" in Chicago will be the first show at the LaSalle Bank Theater in November, which is the former Shubert Theater following a multi-million dollar renovation that started when "Spamalot" closed there in January. Funny they've got an ALW show following a show that spent much of its time making fun of ALW.

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Mister Matt
#3re: 'Woman In White' pushed back
Posted: 2/9/05 at 12:50pm

Oh hooray! I'll get to see it next Christmas with Jarico. Why should this not look good? An out-of-town tryout before a Broadway production is a very smart move. Remember Whistle Down the Wind? The show is doing well in the UK, but they need to test it on an American audience before taking the Broadway plunge. Lloyd Webber has not had a new hit in the US since Phantom (Sunset ran a while, but lost tons of money), so it's probably for the best, but to say it doesn't look good for this musical to try out in Chicago is silly. It looks better if it does.


"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian

bwayballerina
#4re: 'Woman In White' pushed back
Posted: 2/9/05 at 12:55pm

Oh yay! For once, I don't feel so bad about not living in New York! That's the third pre-Broadway tryout we've had this year! (I count All Shook Up and Spamalot as being this year)

timote316
#5re: 'Woman In White' pushed back
Posted: 2/9/05 at 1:01pm

How is this bad for the show? I fail to see that. I see this as a chance to ensure that the show is ready for Broadway.

Plus, maybe ALW couldn't secure his theater of choice for this show until later in the year (when it was announce/leaked/whatever that the show was coming over, it said the Minskoff was what ALW wanted). This was before Harvey took over as Tevye, so maybe his boost in ticket sales pushed back the inexitable closing a few months (as he's rumored to be extending to July).

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umgeoboy
#6re: 'Woman In White' pushed back
Posted: 2/9/05 at 1:05pm

As you said it could mean ALW is having trouble booking a theatre which shows his lack of support on broadway, and the lack of support for his show from broadway theatres.


"Judy Garland, Jimmy Dean, You tragedy Queen" ~ Taboo

"Watching a frat boy realize just what he put his d!ck in...ex's getting std's...schadenfruede" ~ Ave Q

"when dangers near, exploit their fear" ~ Reefer Madness the Musical

timote316
#7re: 'Woman In White' pushed back
Posted: 2/9/05 at 1:28pm

Well, maybe not lack of support, maybe just a show already in that theater not closing as soon as they thought.

Mr. TN
#8re: 'Woman In White' pushed back
Posted: 2/9/05 at 1:42pm

The article states that it will play at a Nederlander theatre. Currently at Nederlander theatres are:

All Shook Up - Palace (Not a good theatre for the show)
Beauty and The Beast - Lunt Fontanne (not closing anytime soon)
Democracy - Brooks Atkinson (Probably wouldn't be out by Nov.)
Fiddler- Minskoff (More like the Palace of London but there are no intentions of closing yet)
Hairspray- Neil Simon (Well, you can guess)
LA Cage - Marquis (may or may not be out by Nov)
Movin Out- Richard Rogers (Again I don't think it is going anywhere)
Rent - Nederlander (Is it going soon? I don't know.)
Wicked - Gershwin (Need I say anymore. Plus the Gershwin is a cavern for a production with cyclorama projections.)

So as you can see, the theatres are a little full right now. If ALW wants a house similar to the Palace he needs something like the Minskoff, which is occupied with an open run right now. I believe he is simply waiting his turn for a good theatre. Chicago also might give him time to try out multiple casts before bringing one to Broadway. If he wants to encoroprate Americans into the roles as well as Brits, he needs to have a tryout somewhere. I don't beleive he intends to bring everyone over a la Phantom. Maria will be coming at the least. About Crawford/Ball, Crewes, or the rest, that is uncertain.

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Mister Matt
#9re: 'Woman In White' pushed back
Posted: 2/9/05 at 2:25pm

"As you said it could mean ALW is having trouble booking a theatre which shows his lack of support on broadway, and the lack of support for his show from broadway theatres."

Except that's not what he said at all. He said ALW possibly mentioned one specific theatre that is housing a show that may not close in time. I think having the two longest-running shows in Broadway hardly demostrates a "lack of support". Why would there be a lack of support for Lloyd Webber? It's not as if he is shunned on Broadway or banned from opening shows. As a matter of fact, Evita has been mentioned for revival for a few years now and will probably happen fairly soon. Woman in White has proven to be critic-proof in London garnering mixed reviews and still selling to packed houses in a monstrous theatre, so I doubt theatres are exactly turning their backs on the idea of housing this show. If so, then they must not be too concerned about the financial welfare of Broadway.


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umgeoboy
#10re: 'Woman In White' pushed back
Posted: 2/9/05 at 3:16pm

mister matt, again on another thread arguing with me :-P

yes alw has two long running shows BUT anything he has brought recently has been a flop. Ie. bombay dreams (produced by him), by jeeves (a london transfer), sunset blvd, la bete, even aspects lasted just under a year, starlight express, song and dance. (I know I skipped phantom and Cats in that time period but thats 2 compared with 7) That's not a great current track record going back to 1985. None of those lasted more then a year. Even the revival of joseph only lasted 6 months.

So if you are concerned for the finacial welfare of Broadway bringing a ALW may not help at all!


"Judy Garland, Jimmy Dean, You tragedy Queen" ~ Taboo

"Watching a frat boy realize just what he put his d!ck in...ex's getting std's...schadenfruede" ~ Ave Q

"when dangers near, exploit their fear" ~ Reefer Madness the Musical

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Menken Fan
#11re: 'Woman In White' pushed back
Posted: 2/9/05 at 4:28pm

Once again, it's great to live in Chicago. Definitely the second city, next to NYC, for theatre.

commasplice
#12re: 'Woman In White' pushed back
Posted: 2/9/05 at 5:03pm

Woohoo!

Today is a day when I love Chicago - especially when they schedule the tryouts when I'm home from school.

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chinkie azn jai
#13re: 'Woman In White' pushed back
Posted: 2/9/05 at 5:43pm

YAY You have no idea how excited I was when I saw the headline on playbill.com. I can't wait to see this show and the newly renovated Shubert Theatre (I hate calling it the LaSalle Bank Theatre).


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Mister Matt
#14re: 'Woman In White' pushed back
Posted: 2/10/05 at 10:57am

umgeoboy - It's true that ALW has not had a hit since Phantom, but the fact that he has produced all those shows you mentioned, though he did not produce them alone, means that Broadway has never stopped supporting him. And yes, I do argue with anyone (not just you) who makes unsupported flippant remarks. There is nothing about an out-of-town tryout that suggests ALW or anyone else is not supported by Broadway theatres. If so, then Broadway has failed to support nearly every major writing team for over 50 years, but then supports them again later, I suppose.


"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian

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JeaniusIsMe
#15re: 'Woman In White' pushed back
Posted: 2/10/05 at 11:03am

I'm happy...any chance I have to see a show pre-Broadway, I'm there....Gotta love Chicago!

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umgeoboy
#16re: 'Woman In White' pushed back
Posted: 2/10/05 at 11:19am

Mister Matt I have no problem with out of town try outs I think they vastly improve shows. I was making a comment about the fact that he is having trouble securing a broadway theatre.


"Judy Garland, Jimmy Dean, You tragedy Queen" ~ Taboo

"Watching a frat boy realize just what he put his d!ck in...ex's getting std's...schadenfruede" ~ Ave Q

"when dangers near, exploit their fear" ~ Reefer Madness the Musical

brdlwyr
#17re: 'Woman In White' pushed back
Posted: 2/10/05 at 11:23am

I am glad that the Shubert is being renovated. (What a dump!) A pre-Broadway run can be very profitable in Chicago. The Producers and Spamelot sold nearly every ticket at near Broadway prices. All Shook Up also did well.

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umgeoboy
#18re: 'Woman In White' pushed back
Posted: 2/10/05 at 11:27am

brdlwyr I agree out of town try outs are probably the best thing for a bdway show. The cast bonds, the show irons out any problems, and the show is nearing perfection when it opens in previews on bdway. I think all shows should have to try out, out of town before opening on broadway.


"Judy Garland, Jimmy Dean, You tragedy Queen" ~ Taboo

"Watching a frat boy realize just what he put his d!ck in...ex's getting std's...schadenfruede" ~ Ave Q

"when dangers near, exploit their fear" ~ Reefer Madness the Musical

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Mister Matt
#19re: 'Woman In White' pushed back
Posted: 2/10/05 at 11:37am

umgeoboy - "I was making a comment about the fact that he is having trouble securing a broadway theatre."

Except that it is not a "fact". It is gossip. You were speculating on speculation. If he has not yet secured a theatre, it could be for any number of reasons, but being shut out by Broadway is probably the LEAST likely, especially in light of Dracula, Brooklyn and Good Vibrations. ALW would seem a much safer bet than anything like those, especially since the show is already doing very well in the UK.

PS - Song and Dance ran over a year and I believe it recouped its investment.


"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian

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WhiteRabbit
#20re: 'Woman In White' pushed back
Posted: 2/10/05 at 5:37pm

Thank God they are renovating the Shubert, I thought the building was gonna colapse during the pre-broadway run of Spamalot. I definitely plan to try to see the pre-broadway engagement of Woman In White. I must say that I dislike ALW though. I just can't stand most of his musicals.


I most definitely have issues with my word choices on this board.

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Mister Matt
#21re: 'Woman In White' pushed back
Posted: 2/10/05 at 5:39pm

Woman in White is quite different from Lloyd Webber's other shows. I really like the score and grew addicted to the CD very quickly.


"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian

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WhiteRabbit
#22re: 'Woman In White' pushed back
Posted: 2/10/05 at 5:56pm

Thats good news because I'm looking for a good new musical!


I most definitely have issues with my word choices on this board.

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umgeoboy
#23re: 'Woman In White' pushed back
Posted: 2/10/05 at 5:57pm

whiterabbit you can go listening to clips of songs from the london production on the website. I find it very similar to ALW's other stuff.


"Judy Garland, Jimmy Dean, You tragedy Queen" ~ Taboo

"Watching a frat boy realize just what he put his d!ck in...ex's getting std's...schadenfruede" ~ Ave Q

"when dangers near, exploit their fear" ~ Reefer Madness the Musical

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jim
#24re: 'Woman In White' pushed back
Posted: 2/10/05 at 6:02pm

I loved THE WOMAN IN WHITE. I liked it better than MARY POPPINS.
Maria Friedman was awesome..she blew me away.Everyone was good. And Martin Crewes...what a voice! What a looker! I think we actually saw Michael Crawford's last performance, Dec 27th. I know he was out the next night. I think I read somwhere that he has not been back,due to that illness. I wonder if he will come back for final three weeks of his contract? I do hope he and Freidman open the show here in the states.


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