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actors missing performances
morosco
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/10/04
#75re: actors missing performances
Posted: 11/26/05 at 5:28pm
And here's a transcript from CNN where Julie says that she did NOT have vocal nodes.
www.cnn.com
#76re: actors missing performances
Posted: 11/26/05 at 5:30pm
I believe - and correct me if I'm wrong - she had diagnosed nodes that she didn't take care of for a long period of time, and that is what led to surgery.
Surgery is a last resort. Behavioral changes usually take care of them.
ETA: Just looked over that transcript, it seems like she herself isn't quite sure of what she's talking about. Sounds like, if not nodes, at least an overuse issue that went on too long.
Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson
Updated On: 11/26/05 at 05:30 PM
trpguyy
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/25/05
#77re: actors missing performances
Posted: 11/26/05 at 5:37pm
"ANDREWS: No, it was not a nodule. Particularly, Broadway singers or singers who slap minute pieces of vocal cord together -- I mean, the cords are so tiny, people who slap those together at tremendous pressure eight times a week in a show for a very long run, you build up a kind of muscular tissue, almost a striation in the tissue, and it can be hardened. And eventually, it builds a lot of strength. It's like a runner running -- or a high jumper on his knees, and they get really strong."
Ummm, that's what a nodule is.
morosco
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/10/04
#78re: actors missing performances
Posted: 11/26/05 at 5:40pm
Well. We could debate all night but I'm gonna finally post on topic for once!
I love seeing understudies. I think the whole comcept of them "waiting in the wings" is fascinating. They can sometimes be just as talented, if not more, than the person they are replacing.
Updated On: 11/26/05 at 05:40 PM
#79re: actors missing performances
Posted: 11/26/05 at 5:43pm
I worked on a play where the star, an extremely talented but dark and difficult man (who had done major prison time), would often walk through the door at 7:55, while his poor understudy would be waiting, in costume, to go on.
Unfortunately the management of that particular production allowed this star's behavior to continue without consequence. I always felt so bad for the understudy.
Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson
broadwaybelter
Broadway Legend Joined: 11/26/04
#80re: actors missing performances
Posted: 11/26/05 at 5:48pmthats horrible, I would've fired him :)
morosco
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/10/04
#81re: actors missing performances
Posted: 11/26/05 at 5:58pm
"I worked on a play where the star, an extremely talented but dark and difficult man (who had done major prison time), would often walk through the door at 7:55, while his poor understudy would be waiting, in costume, to go on."
Was this recent? This behavior sounds vaguely familiar.
#82re: actors missing performances
Posted: 11/26/05 at 6:05pmEarly '90's.
Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson
etoile
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/2/03
#83re: actors missing performances
Posted: 11/26/05 at 6:07pm
"...people should be greatful that they are seeing a show and that these performers are taking the time to share with us their gifts..."
Again, WHAT???
Where's the sharing? Performers are doing their job. Artisic musing aside, it's a job. They're selling a product...themselves. Or, in loftier terms, their gift, their talent. Wise performers realize just how lucky they are to have a job, an audience. Wise performers are greatful that people are taking THEIR time and spending THEIR money to experience an artist's gift. No one is irreplaceable.
Rest in peace, Iflitifloat.
#84re: actors missing performances
Posted: 11/26/05 at 6:12pmAmen!
Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson
Jazzysuite82
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/6/05
#85re: actors missing performances
Posted: 11/26/05 at 6:26pmA Little note on Nodules. They can only be prevented if the behavior is caught in time. Julie Andrews got nodes because of what she did in Victor/Victoria and Putting it Together. A coloratura soprano shouldn't be singing low C's and that's what she was doing...8 times a week.
#86re: actors missing performances
Posted: 11/26/05 at 6:40pmThe behavior has to not only be caught, but changed.
Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson
broadwaybelter
Broadway Legend Joined: 11/26/04
#88re: actors missing performances
Posted: 11/26/05 at 6:47pmWhy should she shut up? Those are facts.
Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson
theatreguy
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/31/03
#89re: actors missing performances
Posted: 11/26/05 at 6:49pm
I believe the reason (or at least one of the reasons) Julie kept going even though she was hurting her voice was because she knew V/V would close without her and she didn't want the producers to lose their investment and have everyone be out of a job.
And Rath, I think I know which play you're talking about. Did it also happen to star a recent Emmy winner?
#90re: actors missing performances
Posted: 11/26/05 at 6:49pm
just shut up..
How old are we?
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etoile
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/2/03
#91re: actors missing performances
Posted: 11/26/05 at 6:50pmIntelligent rebuttal.
Rest in peace, Iflitifloat.
#92re: actors missing performances
Posted: 11/26/05 at 6:50pmYes, TG. Good guessing.
Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson
Jazzysuite82
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/6/05
#93re: actors missing performances
Posted: 11/26/05 at 6:56pmI'm not sure Julie was aware she was hurting herself. It's very simple to do actually.
broadwaybelter
Broadway Legend Joined: 11/26/04
#94re: actors missing performances
Posted: 11/26/05 at 7:09pmyea exactly, sometimes its very apparent for example with Maureen Mcgovern who experienced pain everytime she belted soprano for Pirates of Penzance and then she had gone to the doctor and they had told her she had burst a blood vessel. Other times it could be very minor and you may not even know what it is, for example me, I've had throat pains as a result of singing...
broadwaybelter
Broadway Legend Joined: 11/26/04
#95re: actors missing performances
Posted: 11/26/05 at 7:11pmcan you only tell if you have nodules if you are seen by a doctor?
#96re: actors missing performances
Posted: 11/26/05 at 7:16pmIt's not the end of the world to admit that perhaps Andrews didn't see a doctor when she knew she should have, or didn't change her behavior when she was advised to by a doctor or vocal coach. She's human.
Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/31/69
#97re: actors missing performances
Posted: 11/26/05 at 10:08pm
i wasn't giving advice about anything....ESPECIALLY not to Julie Andrews! are you nuts?! i just know that julie had tremendous pressure to perform (her name was above the title after all) and so she did and in the end its a HUGE misfortune to all of us who will never enjoy hearing her sing live again..and most of all its a tragedy to HER....so the comment of "i'm sure she would be glad to read your advice" or whatever it was just kind of well..come on..
i wasn't looking to start a fight here. just trying to enlighten some people who really might not understand how heartbreaking it is for a performer to have to call in sick. it was for me. if the performer doesn't care whether or not they show up for work then, i agree, they don't deserve to be in the show...its their job to be there..i am talking about people who are genuinely ill like i was and like many performers get...we're only human...
not andrea mcardle..i don't believe she misses many shows...i know her personally and did a show with her where she had a very bad case of bronchitis...she missed ONE song in a performance one night and that was it...she did the rest...its was a review...and she started having a coughing fit right before it and couldn't sing..so her cover (me) who was in the ensemble sang it...
and not andrea burns either..but thanks for playing! LOL!
#98re: actors missing performances
Posted: 11/26/05 at 10:14pm
What happened to Andrews could only have been classified a tragedy if it had happened years before. Let's not negate the many many years of pleasure that the public and she got from her singing. By the time this happened, age had begun to take its toll anyway. The "tremendous pressure" she was under was personal - her and her husband's company was producing the show, don't forget. He was also the director and bookwriter, and as such was receiving royalties in those capacities. If it went under, a good portion of the money lost would be theirs. The longer it ran, the more money they as producers (and director and bookwriter) would see.
Bottom line is, she has her health, she's been able to move on in different directions that she is obviously enjoying, and we all have many, many recordings and memories of her beautiful voice.
Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson
Updated On: 11/26/05 at 10:14 PM
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/31/69
#99re: actors missing performances
Posted: 11/26/05 at 10:24pm
whatever YOU want to call it....i don't really care HOW its classified..
to ME it is a tragedy to not be able to hear her because i love her singing...and i think she had MANY MANY more good years left to share her gift....its like saying well...who cares if a 35 year old pitcher loses the use of his arm...he was probably already getting too old to play anyway!!
does anyone feel like pulling out the dictionary for a definition of tragedy?! jeez LOUISE!
lets not get SOO technical here..to ME it is a very sad thing and i classify it as a tragedy because her doctor is a dope...and i know this from EXPERIENCE...he USED to be MINE and misdiagnosed me TWO TIMES!!
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