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#2

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In her entry, she refers to working scenes with Paul -- One of the understudies for Jimmy and Graydon. That 'Paul' is Paul Schaeffer. Now let me tell you, if was Jules, I would be rehearsing with that man every day and would intentionally screw up ever scene involving a kiss. That man is very, very attractive. Hmmmm. I shall have to get tickets for two performances -- one to see Matt Cavenaugh, and another so that I can lock Matt and the other Jimmy cover in a closet so that I can see Paul go on. It's a plan!
#3

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I would to that TOO! LOL
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#4

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hehehe lol
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#5

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I will admit I have slammed this girl on the other board repeatedly. I will. I have no problem with it either. But I do know that here, people revere her.

So I ask why?

There are incredible stories of putting together shows that are available to us in book form. Please, I beg of you, read ACT ONE by Moss Heart or (a book I'm just now finishing) DIARY OF A MAD PLAYWRIGHT by James Kirkwood. I'm glad this girl got this tour and I'm glad you all read her (said with as much sincerity as I can muster). But I encourage you all to search out well written accounts of what it's like to work in the theatre...both the good and the bad.
"I'm so looking forward to a time when all the Reagan Democrats are dead."
#6

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She is young actress in her first major show and she hasn't been jaded by the business and she is very sincere. It has nothing to do with reading a great, groundbreaking memoir. It is about reading about a young actress in her first big show. Give her a break. You guys on that other board are way harsh and said things about her that were VERY rude and uncalled for. Please don't bring that attitude here.
#7

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ya! boo on bashers,
get something else in your life to cap on!
if you don't like it, don't read it!
#8

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No one 'reveres' her, people just find it interesting to read an 'as it happens' account of someone gearing up for their first National Tour. It's not an attempt to be literature or a historical documentation, it's an attempt to give us a certain perspective to look into the business from in something close to real time, instead of being wrought with hindsight or historical second-guessing.

It's supposed to be fun.

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Please note that I completely refrained from bashing her when I posted. I truly wanted to know why you all find it intersting.

But now that my opinion on this journal that is being put out there for the public to read is being told that it is not welcome, well...I guess I won't hold back.

I find it banal and insipid. Underneath all her 'sincerity' and 'unjadedness' there is a very unpleasant edge. I find it a fascinating read because the self-absorption is remarkable. It comes with the territory, being 20 and in a big National and all. I understand that. And if you're getting something out of it, hey...you keep reading too.

But I will question anyone's taste who calls the book to MILLIE 'genius'.
"I'm so looking forward to a time when all the Reagan Democrats are dead."
#10

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Why would anyone "slam" Juliana? Why, Robbiej? What has she done to deserve being slammed? If you don't like her journal (which I asked her to do) don't read it. Or do you get "off" slamming nice people? I do "revere" Juliana, and I revere her because she is a treasure of a human being - down to earth, not full of herself, decent, genuine, warm and loving. I discovered her when she was in high school, hired her to sing on my albums and have watched her progress. I just don't get people like you, robbiej, unless you are just a frustrated performer who'd like to be doing what Juliana is doing. We didn't want a "serious" piece of literature - we wanted something chatty and fun and "her" - and she delivers that in spades, bucko, whether you like it or not.

Can someone please tell me the board where Mr. Robbie posts his "slams" - I'd like to pay a visit and perhaps do a little slamming of my own.

bk
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That board no longer exists. First they removed the link from the main page so that you could only get to it if you had it bookmarked, but when that happened they grew increasingly rude and mean over there and finally the site got sick of it and shut them down. So of there comments about Jules, myself and another poster on this board were horrible!
#12

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Well. The board is no longer there. And by slam, I mean I poke fun at her writing and what she writes about. I'm sure she's a doll. And I'm sure you have a very good reason for liking her. Hell, if I ever get the chance to work with her, I'll probably like her too.

But when you choose to put your words out there for the world, people will have opinions about them. And I have every right to comment, poke fun and satirize them if I so choose. I could even be downright mean, although I don't think I have been.

I do find what she writes compelling. It reminds me how self absorbed ALL early-20something's are (be they men, women, actors or not). I'm not bitter, I'm not frustrated (I barely stop performing). I've just gone through the whole 20's thing and can look back and laugh. At myself...and at everyone else. And if I see it in someone else, and that person is putting it out there for the world to see, then I will poke fun.

I'm glad she's doing it. Lot's of people are enjoying it for many reasons. Just like lots of people will enjoy or hate the many performances she's going to give in her life for many different reasons.
"I'm so looking forward to a time when all the Reagan Democrats are dead."
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You all were down right rude on thatother baord. Just because that place is gone doesn't mean that we here want that atmosphere here. Give the girl a break. If you don't like it, don't read it. How would you like it if someone publicly called you thought and feelings shallow and self absorbed??

Besides, what makes it self absorbed?? the fact that she writes about herself?? It is supposed to be a journal about HER and HER EXPERIENCEs. I am sure if I read your journal, most of it would be a bout you. It not an account of the our as a whole.

Updated On: 7/23/03 at 03:12 PM

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Well, BroadwayGuy, people HAVE. And you deal with it and you get over it. And sometimes you even say, 'Hmmmm...do they have a point?' That's what ya do.

I've also stated I find it compelling to read over and over again. So telling me to not read it won't do any good.

I was just wondering why people raised this girl on a pedastal, free from any criticism. No, I realize, criticism of those that the others like is not welcome.

So, I'm done discussing Juliana...here. I will continue elsewhere. Just disappointed that tolerance for opinions, even very negative ones, is not shown here.

Ya know, the other board could be rough sometimes, but every single person was allowed to express their opinions and defend them.
"I'm so looking forward to a time when all the Reagan Democrats are dead."
#16

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Again, for clarification BG2, they didn't take the board down because we were "rude" about Juliana. It was a technical issue. I guess we all make up scenarios to get us through the day.
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, but when that happened they grew increasingly rude and mean over there and finally the site got sick of it and shut them down.

The site did not "get sick of it" and shut down. Whether or not you meant about "jules", the reason the board got shut down had NOTHING to do with their members. (I asked) Don't need you starting crap about WHY the board is gone now. Just be happy, as you are and get on with it. "We" had to deal with "you" coming over "there" so deal with "our" right to be "here"!
#19

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Other opinions is one thing - personal attacks are another. It's all in how you present your view.

"Different" opinions are more than welcome - and if you're finding you're not enjoying your interaction on the board and think we're close minded - find another one which you enjoy more.
"Some of us have it worse, you know, Dana. Some of us are dating lesbian men. Okay? C'mon."
#21

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how often does she write in her journal? it seemes like she is behind on the dates. the show is already in dallas and she has not writtne about that. i amjsut wondering why she is off on the dates?
#22

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just for the record, I have never "slammed jules". Not here OR "there". Don't really care one way or the other. I just wanted to make it clear that the board was NOT taken down because Paul Wontorek was "sick of us".
#23

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yeah. That is why they first removed the link from the main page becasue of the behavior of some posters. they even said that on the site.


Jules has to send it in to the site, then they put it up. She doesn't put it directly there on the page.
#24

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She writes the entries as often as she can. We were, in fact, behind on getting them up for various reasons, but we're almost caught up with what she's sent so far. She will continue writing them all throughout the tour.

Robbiej, darling, no one has a problem with you expressing opinions - but if you do so, then others can express theirs right back at you, and you will like it and take it. And it's funny how opinions differ - you find that her twenty year old self is full of herself - I find the opposite (and, of course, I know her). Again, while you can criticize her writing style until the cows come home, it is meaningless criticism because this isn't about writing style or literature - it's an expression of who she is. But, read on MacDuff. By the way (BTW, in Internet lingo) - your picture looks rather like Joyce de Witt. Is that the look you are going for?

And what do you do for a living? Are you a performer?
#25

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bk - actually, even though it's slightly behind, I'm impressed she's been able to keep this up to date w/ it even after going on the road. More than not I see journal's onlines die after the first few entries. Glad to see this one hasn't.
"Some of us have it worse, you know, Dana. Some of us are dating lesbian men. Okay? C'mon."

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