why do peoples jaws move when they sing?- Page 3

[M J R]

Posted: 7/28/04 at 9:44pm

Paul LW: No - that is how he is producing his vibrato (in Josh's case)

MusicPos: I just remembered why I don't enter into any discussions with you...

SheSings: Yeah, there's definitely some weird tongue issues happening with her. But that's a good example of: "She's the one with a Tony award, so she must be doing something right..."

[shesings]

Posted: 7/28/04 at 9:48pm

I do adore Idina and I think she deserved the Tony. Do you know if there is any real reason for her tongue action though? Is that a common problem people have? Just curious.

[Paul LW]

Posted: 7/28/04 at 9:51pm

Hmmm anyone else's take?

Because actually, that is what happens to ME sometimes when I sing.

And FYI---haha---I have been classically trained by a teacher of NATS for 5 years (now I am done because I will be going to College at the University of Michigan), and have won 1st place Musical Theatre for Regional (of the country) this year with my special rendition of "Waiting For Life". Yes, a female song, but it was effective none the less.

Especially during my sophomore year I had a faster vibrato, which was due to tension, and now it has slowed down a bit, yet is still quite "free" so to speak because of my classical training.

My adam's apple moves "up and down" quite fast from time to time.

Whooo I was rambling. ; ) Updated On: 7/28/04 at 09:51 PM

[M J R]

Posted: 7/28/04 at 9:52pm

Well, sticking your tongue out during vocal exercises is very common - I have people do it all the time - I think she does it during long, sustained notes, because it gives you a feeling of being completely "unclogged" vocally. It allows you to produce your maximum resonance. (The same effect can be acheived if you just keep your tongue where it's supposed to be when you sing - right at the tip of the teeth). She's just over-compensating I think to get that feeling of "singing big"

Updated On: 7/28/04 at 09:52 PM

[MusicPos2]

Posted: 7/28/04 at 9:56pm

I've never seen Idina do it, but the tongue is attached to the larynx, the further forward, the more open the larynx. During vowels, the tip of the tongue should live on the back of the teeth. As far as seeing the adam's apple, I'd have to see a specific recording to answer your question, but I've often heard Josh Groban sound very tight (but I've mostly heard his "popular" music, not the stuff that he's supposedly good at).

[Seany]

Posted: 7/29/04 at 1:24am

Raul doesn't do it, and he has an extremely wide vibrato. Actually, he shook his head a little bit in RHS, but I think that was just for effect.

[shira467]

Posted: 7/29/04 at 4:36am

While the hysterics were annoying, I must thank you all for such an interesting and informative post.

Tension, no tension, jaws moving tongues - I don't know. But I find it fascinating.

Thanks!

[KMF_NYC]

Posted: 7/29/04 at 10:22am

well said shira...thanks everyone -- Patti Lupone may have some movement, but in my opinion, who cares -- she sounds great!

[robbiej]

Posted: 7/29/04 at 10:45am

Hey...I got an idea. How about NOBODY gives vocal technique advice on a website cause it's a BAD IDEA!!!!

It's like trying to teach someone how to drive a car through instant messages.

[MusicPos2]

Posted: 7/29/04 at 12:38pm

You can get ideas on here, but if this is your only source, that's not a good idea. You should know enough to be able to question your teacher b/c that's what an informed student does, but this site should never be a substitute for lessons.