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wicked fans are NOT always what they seem

I must say, I am a huge wicked fan, perhaps one of the biggest there is. However, i was APALLED when i saw such posts as, and i'm serious, this WAS a real post, " OMG I LUVVVVVV WICKED WITH IDINA IN IT!!!!!!" i mean, c'mon thats ridiculous. so please, don't judge all wicked fans by certain wicked fans who go all out shilling everywhere( cough cough, elphaba with a number called tres in spanish after it)!)
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wickedphantom, i literally JUST finished reading the post that you're referring to. But I believe there were more exclamation marks than you're giving it credit for.

Unfortunately, for every one of you (and me, for that matter - I also enjoy Wicked very much), there's about 20 frightening little girls like WickedElphieChenoIndinaInMyHeartxoxo3.
"It's not always about you!!!" (But if you think I'm referring to you anyway, then I probably am.)

"Good luck returning my ass!" - Wilhemina Slater

"This is my breakfast, lunch and f***ing dinner right here. I'm not even f***in' joking." - Colin Farrell
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It's a shame that the board is overrun by little girls like 'WickedElphieChenoIndinaInMyHeartxoxo3'. Of course, they are entitled to use the board for 'discussion' just as much as any of us, but unfortunately when they fixate on mainstream shows like Wicked or Brooklyn, they serve to discredit true fans of these productions.

I am a big fan of a lot of what Broadway has on offer right now, but when I read posts like "OMG I LUVVVVVV WICKED WITH IDINA IN IT!!!!!!", I am slightly embarrassed to classify myself as a 'fan' if it means people will liken me to these crazies.
"Jane, I've been dealt a blow - I've been dealt a blow, Jane."
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i think it's funny cause thats the kind of post you would make when exagerating about shills..but someone actually MADE that post. lol
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Ditto.

This is actually the precise reason I put "grownup" in my posting name, a*sholish as it seems in hindsight! I enjoyed Wicked a LOT--I have seen it 3 times, have the OCR.....but 1) some of the aforementioned fans are young enough to be my children 2) I have perspective enough to see the flaws in the show and realize that it's.....3) just a show!

Anyhoo. I agree.
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About OMG I LOVE WICKED with JOEY IN IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Actualy, I loved Joey first, then Wicked - it was just a coinkee-dink!

JK (well, no, i do love wicked - but I just can't wait until another show opens that draws the attention from Wicked - hmmmmmmmmmmmm)

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wicked_a_new_musical/
"I've often said I should put sweets in my chair - they'd spend less time on my a** that way....." ~F.W.B.
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I'm with you grownupgroupie. I have seen the show twice (including with my 5 year old daughter who knows EVERY lyric to the show), have the OBC, and think the show is fun. Not anywhere a classic, but hummable fun.

I do find the absolution obsession by females 12-25(and many males but I'll leave them to another post)fascinating. Usually this over the top devotion is left to tv shows, i.e the creek, buffy and the OC. I don't know if anyone saw the article in the NY Times a few weeks on Mario Cantone visiting his old high school. He's from a town north of Boston. Not a suburb of Boston, but a blue collar town north of Boston The first question out of the acting class he visited? "Do you know Idina Menzel?" That was a real eye opener. I knew the show had young fans and that Wicked was popular, but this clearly showed me that show's reach is deeper that any show in the recent past and that includes Rent.
So my dear you think you can get to Broadway. Well, let me tell you something. Broadway has no room for people like you. Not the Broadway I know. My Broadway takes people like you and eats them up and spits them out. My Broadway is the Broadway of Merman, and Martin, and Fontaine, and if you think you can build yourself up by knocking other people down... ...GOOD LUCK... Seinfeld
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Must we continue this dabate??? I don't care if you're not a 12 year old girl, I HATE YOU ALL!!! haha, yeah, okay, I'm just kidding... re: wicked fans are NOT always what they seem
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I remember being either the first, or one of the first people with a wicked based poster name. Within three months there was wickedfan2, wickedfan3 etc. not that i have anything against those posters. some of them are okay. Others are exactly the 12 year old girls who believe that they are entitled to post here thinking they know broadway after seeing Wicked twice.
"Sing the words, Patti!!!!" Stephen Sondheim to Patti LuPone.
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I hate it that it's not possible to discuss a mainstream show anymore without getting flamed. I'm actually a huge fan of book Wicked first, and was also one of the first fans last fall. However, I like to think that I am respectful. Screaming little girls, in my opinion, are simply disgraceful to the show. If you want to show that you like something, show a little judgment. Don't scare everyone else off. Unfortunately, two times at the stagedoor was enough to illustrate to me the abundance of such fans...
"A little humility wouldn't hurt." --Ellie, Constantine-Hellblazer, "Dangerous Habits"
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yeah this post was most certainly NOT to bash wicked..it was to bash the shills. I adore wicked just as much as elphaba 3, but don't make posts about it every other second. if you'll remember, A while back, i was the only one defending wicked in a HUGE argument.
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or even after watching it 20 times. watching one show and memorizing it does not a seasoned Broadway fan make.
"It's not always about you!!!" (But if you think I'm referring to you anyway, then I probably am.)

"Good luck returning my ass!" - Wilhemina Slater

"This is my breakfast, lunch and f***ing dinner right here. I'm not even f***in' joking." - Colin Farrell
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my girlfriend got me into Wicked. Its a fun show, I like it, but I'm not going to go around I LOVE WICKED!!! It gets annoying after a while lol, but thats old news.
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<< or even after watching it 20 times. watching one show and memorizing it does not a seasoned Broadway fan make.>>

True, but it's a beginnng. Don't you think that some of the mad groupies will go on to find other shows, and as they get older, perhaps, become seasoned Broadway fans? Teenagers are given to excess; it comes with the territory.
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Lord I hope you're right Sally, but I've seen, online and in person, many folks who are content limiting their Broadway exposure to one or two blockbuster shows and then act as if they should write a book on the whole darn industry. Teenagers are given to excess, yes, but I'm afraid that excess is more narrow than exploring a variety of Broadway tpyes, and will just overload on shows of a similar vein as Wicked.
"It's not always about you!!!" (But if you think I'm referring to you anyway, then I probably am.)

"Good luck returning my ass!" - Wilhemina Slater

"This is my breakfast, lunch and f***ing dinner right here. I'm not even f***in' joking." - Colin Farrell
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It's too bad when you have to change your wicked-related user name to be taken seriously...

re: wicked fans are NOT always what they seem
Idina: Somehow I got myself to the stage, came out at the end of the show, and I had some kind of closure.
Some guy: You looked great!
Idina: Thanks...I WAS SO HIGH! 8/21/05
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I agree with sndtrklvr on the obsession it seems to have created amongst the 12-25 female set. I guess it's the "Beaches" for these kids? But I have to wonder if it "gets" to the leads, all the screaming girls. Chenoweth was known to use the back door to avoid them from time to time and I can't say I blame Idina for not always being enthusiastic. When you see the same people over and over...same thing with the lottery folks, although since Cheno left I believe the first row faces have changed. That would drive me a little bonkers

And while the "older" fans will probably never be seen standing at the stage door, or at least not more than once. I guess Wicked filled a niche that seems to have been missing.
I enjoyed the show and it's pretty much a "friends from out of town" pleaser of a show, I have to admit, I'm glad the pink doorag-wearing "cheno my cheno" kids are gone.

I wonder why though JLT has inspired the same kind of madness??
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To their credit, though...it may not broadway experts make, but it might create new theatre lovers. Last night I ended up eavsdropping on a guy on his cell on 8th Ave. who had seen it the night before. CLEARLY had not seen much theatre in his life ever and he was giving the whole blow-by-blow story line to whomever was on the phone. It was kind of sweet. He looked like some 25 year old IT guy from Fresno and he seemed surprised at his own enthusiasm.
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LOL-im 12 and i luv Wicked and im proud of it! of course people know i luv it waayyy to much--im like obsessed-Wicked is all i listen toand Idina Menzel is my favorite actress and Singer--i was just wondering---has anyone here seen the movie JUST A KISS??? me and my friend rented it cuz Idina was in it but we found out it was a bad movie but we watched it anyway to see her and she does bad stuff lol
~Elphie
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