So Misty, the one person who never did anything wrong, is in hell?
I think the fatal flaw was that they never gave us anyone to root for. I never really cared who the next supreme was or what happened to the rest of them.
In previous seasons, we were given several characters to root for, even minor ones like Pepper. I tuned in because I really cared what happened to Lana Banana. And Lange's character last season, while she did some terrible things, we got to see the complexity and humanity in her. So we rooted for her redemption.
This season Lange was evil, with no soul, thus no possibility for redemption. The rest of them were just too nasty, mean and all over the place to care about.
And the one who wasn't nasty or mean is killing frogs in hell, presumably for all eternity.
I have alot of questions that will never be answered (and care less and less about). One is, did sad witch impale herself on purpose because she didnt want to be supreme? Was it a transwhatchamacallit mistake?
Still annoyed that hollywood couldnt throw frankenboy off of her after she floated a freaking piano.
I was confused by a couple of things last night (what else is new) so I think I need to re-watch the very end.
But yeah, why is poor Misty in hell for all of eternity?
Doodle, it was Cordelia that floated the piano.
"But yeah, why is poor Misty in hell for all of eternity?"
Stevie Nicks sent her there for a poor imitation of her. She just couldn't get the twirl right.
Is Axeman in his own Hell, I assume so, but if it's a shared Hell like Marie and Lalaurie have it seems unfair--he's a psycho killer yet seems to be in his version of Heaven in Fiona.
Love the AV Club reviews--spot on.
Brad Murphy was less involved in by far the best season Asylum (who knows about his never vocal creator partner Brad Falchuk) with all his various programs, which is why Tim Minear was showrunner. I only hope that with Murphy's other movie project (after Normal Heart,) wrapping up Glee and his new HBO show (ALL ABOUT SEX! Can't wait to see what Murphy does with that,) Minear will be promoted again next year.
Jordan, I knew I was wrong about the piano, but the point is that she was pretty powerful and should've been able to escape...she made him lick her shoes, for gosh sake!
I thought it might be Cordelia from the beginning. What a RIDICULOUS season this was. All of these damn witches gained all of this power in a snap, but gloomy girl couldn't do anything but kill with her vagina when she arrived.
They tried to put way too much in this season. There was NO horror. Nothing really mattered since every freaking character was brought back from the dead.
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/16/07
So Misty, the one person who never did anything wrong, is in hell?
I kind of took from it that all witches eventually go to Hell? I mean, Fiona doesn't even have a soul and she went to Hell.
Hmm, that hadn't occurred to me. But why? These aren't the Christian notion of witches--the pact with the devil, trade your soul for power kind of witches. They really are more like Samantha Stevens--just born that way. So why hell?
At any rate, she didn't deserve it so soon.
I didn't see it like that at all. Those girls sent themselves to hell in order to come back from it. The show didn't say that they were all going to go to hell when they die, but poor Misty couldn't come back from it so she's there for all eternity. Not because she was bad but because she sent herself there and got stuck forever.
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/16/07
Yeah, you got me. There are no answers, at least none that would make sense out of any of this.
And I totally cringed at the Sound of Music line. It's crap like that that just draws attention to the fact that this is all just made up as he goes along with no real thought to a through line or anything.
I still don't understand the opening. Was Stevie Nicks really there or what? It made no effing sense.
Honestly, if they are going to do full storyline, not continuing into the next season, in 13 episodes, there is NO excuse to not have all 13 scripts written, edited and checked for continuity before they start shooting. They really were flying by the seat of their pants and it failed. It had SO much potential.
At least my girlfriend, Sarah Paulson, ended the season on top again.
I think she really was. She really is a witch and she really visits the coven house on occasion. I think.
The Sundance Channel's The Writing Room show did an episode with the AHS writers (which means basically Ryan Murphy won't show up) and they admit that this season in particular they are writing as they go along, though that Tim Minear last year came up with all of the story bullet points in advance. This was part of Murphy'splan to make this season more FUN!
It's silly to try to figure any of this out, but I don't think all Witches go to Hell, that was just something they had to do if they wanted tobe a Supreme (were all the other witches in the world gone? Why did it HAVE to be one of them?) As mentioned, they aren't always strong enough to get out of it. Not sure why Papa Jujube was in Fiona's Hell though, I thought it as just for people who made a deal with him - but the writers wanted him there laughing so who cares, I guess.
As for Madi not being able to fight off FrankenKyle--at some point they decided that he is now an incredibly strong killing machine. I guess having all those frat jock body parts? Meh.
I can't believe how many people, including some major TV critics seem to have enjoyed this season best.
re Maddi and the strength thing...couldn't she just have disappeared from under Taterstein and reappeared somewhere else like when they were all playing tag?
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
What if she landed on a fondue fork? Could she take that chance?
Eric, I think this was just the Supreme for that one Coven. I guess the other witches all over the world have their own covens with their own Supreme's?
And LOL @ the fondue fork.
Stop trying to make it make sense. There's only ONE Supreme. All the witches happen to be in the US. Fiona was scared of Misty, but technically, she wasn't a part of the coven for a long time. There were, obviously, hundreds or thousands of other witches out there that they knew nothing of. How do they know the next Supreme wasn't working at a truck stop in Portland? The old Supreme dies when the new Supreme takes power, yet Fiona DIDN'T die when Cordelia took power. In fact, when Fiona got sick, Cordelia still had no real power to speak of. A Supreme's power comes to her around her 18th year, or so Fiona said. Fiona wasn't anywhere near Cordelia for most of her formative and early adult years, so why didn't she come into power? Yeah, Myrtle said she was suppressed by Fiona. BS. Fiona wasn't around. Myrtle should have been guiding her. She couldn't do jack but mix some herbs, well into adulthood. Hell, she plucked out her own eyes to get one real power back. AND, who the fvck threw the acid on her, anyway?
They could have completely cut out the voodoo and racism BS and focused on a dying coven trying to figure out who their next leader was and build up their numbers. Introduce a new witch with new powers on occasion. Show the girls coming into their powers and learning to control them, including the horrific mishaps that would come, rather than just suddenly having them and knowing what to do with them. Witch hunters? Absolutely. You need a villain. Humanize them so that it IS freaky when one of the witches turns their organs inside out. When a witch dies, leave her dead or at least a ghost.
Total fail.
I did love the makeup on Jessica Lange in that final scene
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