Alaska Governor Sarah Palin is McCain's VP- Page 6

[JohnBoy2]

Posted: 8/29/08 at 3:32pm

Honestly, when I heard about her, this morning, I made the assumption that she was selected, primarily, to sure-up the Republican vote, not to win over Hillary's supporters. You're forgetting that John McCain was not all that popular a candidate with many in his party. She's far more conservative than he is, and she'll help cement those votes. As for women's votes, I guess it depends on where those women stand on the issues, and if they are liberal or conservative. But I do think that the choice of a woman, will make these former Hillary women, take a look at McCain/Palin. Not sure they'd take a look at McCain/some other white guy.

[miss pennywise]

Posted: 8/29/08 at 3:36pm

I wasn't supporting Hillary because she was a woman. That would be like supporting someone because he or she is a Democrat or Republican, right, JohnBoy?

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Posted: 8/29/08 at 3:46pm

I don't see Tina fey...remember Nora Dunn as Pat Stevens?

[iflitifloat]

Posted: 8/29/08 at 3:55pm

I'm stunned. Clearly, the deal-breaker in her selection was gender, but c'mon. I believe the VP choice matters quite a bit. Should something happen to the president, will the VP be strong enough to actually take charge, or become a puppet for movers and shakers behind the scenes?

I find her choice rankles me. It is as much of an insult to think that Palin being a woman is reason enough to rise above issues as it was when that dipsh*t Dan Quayle was chosen because he would draw women to the team. To me, the choice of Palin--at this point in her careeer--feels like it is based on very shallow and patronizing reasoning.

[mejusthavingfun]

Posted: 8/29/08 at 3:58pm

Well frankly of the decisions John McCain has made in his political life this is probably the worst.

I can't believe how many qualified individuals men and women he turned down to pick this woman. Did he even know her before today? Has he ever even heard her speak? I mean seriously? She certainly hasn't been stumping for him.

Republicans are probably at a breaking point with this man. Talk about unity being needed in the Democratic party, the Republicans are BROKEN as a party. If anything this decision should anger those in the Republican. This is like politics as performed by high schoolers.

This woman may have some really great credentials and be a sweet person (who hates gays) but she is not what the party asked for.

Posted: 8/29/08 at 4:07pm

C'mon folks- Let's just all be happy it's the Republicans saddled with this albatross.

[Pippin]

Posted: 8/29/08 at 4:14pm

thinking further about this choice, I think she is basically a huge boobytrap (insert joke __________ -there)

if the Obama camp attacks her for having little experience, thus not being able to lead, they will call hypocracy on them, given Obama's time holding office, which is longer than Palin's, but not by alot.

if they attack her for any reason, the McCain camp will shout sexism from the mountaintops and accuse democrats of attacking her on the sole basis that she is a female. I see this pick as the bait in the trap, and it is set to go off. They just want the Dems to make the first attack.

they have a lot of loopholes by choosing this woman. if he wanted to win legitimately (which I don't think McCain can do with ANY V.P this year) this is a horrible pick. However, if they want to sit back and play the defensive game and make ridiculous accusations of sexism and hypocracy, than Palin is the perfect choice to get that ball rolling.

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[JohnBoy2]

Posted: 8/29/08 at 4:14pm

Bye bye Republicans!

[violet72]

Posted: 8/29/08 at 4:19pm

Was listening to Rush and Hannity on the radio(not a thing I usually do, I was curious) and they basically are calling her Reagen in a skirt and saying she is stronger then McCain and is the face of the new Republican party...I also watched fox news and Rove was on...he called this pick outstanding and then sang her praises...why do I have a feeling he has his hand in this election to?...I think the puppet master is still at work

[Pippin]

Posted: 8/29/08 at 4:24pm

whose ass is his hand in?

I think he's double fisting both of 'em.

[Borstalboy]

Posted: 8/29/08 at 4:24pm

Of course he is. This has been proven.

[iflitifloat]

Posted: 8/29/08 at 4:29pm

The total of her education credentials is a BA in Journalism from the University of Idaho.

I'm not knocking a degree in Journalism, mind you, but really... is this preparation for a leadership role in a world that is on the verge of self-destruction?

[StockardFan]

Posted: 8/29/08 at 4:30pm

Miss P., I certainly meant no disrespect to working mothers at all. And yes, I do realize that I am lucky to have the choice to stay home.

I was just stating that I PERSONALLY would not want to leave my child at 4 months to undertake the office of VP. My PERSONAL choice.

Thank you Javero, for understanding my statement.

[miss pennywise]

Posted: 8/29/08 at 4:30pm

I feel the same as Iflit and CP's wife.

[StockardFan]

Posted: 8/29/08 at 4:33pm

And on this we are in 100% agreement......

[Borstalboy]

Posted: 8/29/08 at 4:41pm

Apparently, some Talking Points were leaked to Nerve.com (of all things) from a disgruntled staffer:


In a Scanner Exclusive, here we present talking points released by McCain HQ just a few minutes ago, albeit with insignificant word changes to protect the identity of the staffer who leaked them to us...

(This staffer, at their request, wanted to note that they are unhappy with McCain's choice because Palin is too inexperienced to be President.) Among the highlights, which should give us an idea of how McCain plans to use Palin, you will note there is no mention of Hillary Clinton or women voters. As you may recall from our earlier post, McCain's #1 reason for choosing Palin is her gender.

Instead, the memo discusses how Palin and McCain are both reformers and independents and that the problem is Washington, not a Republican President or a Democratic Congress. Here is the full text:



TALKING POINTS: MCCAIN-PALIN '08

McCain-Palin: Team Of Mavericks To Change Washington

Barack Obama has been running for president ever since he was elected to the Senate, but

Sarah Palin is a governor with a record of achieving results for Alaska. Obama's "experience" is running for political office;

Governor Palin's experience is bringing people together to get things done.

The Obama-Biden ticket is big on talk. The McCain-Palin ticket is big on results. To change Washington, it's going to take a team of Mavericks who have a record of accomplishment in shaking up the status quo. Last night we heard a negative, partisan speech from Barack Obama. He made the argument that if we have Democratic one party rule, our problems will be solved.

For those who think that the Democratic Congress has done a great job over the past two years, Barack Obama might be right.

But John McCain has made the case that the problem isn't a Republican Administration or a Democratic Congress, the problem is Washington.

Governor Palin: A Tough Executive With Record Of Results

Governor Palin is a tough executive who has demonstrated during her time in office that she is ready to be president. She has brought Republicans and Democrats together within her Administration and has seen approval ratings of over 80 percent.

1) She has challenged the influence of the big oil companies while fighting for the development of new energy resources.

2) She leads a state that matters to every one of us --

Alaska has significant energy resources and she has been a leader in the fight for America's energy independence.

· She has actually used her veto and cut budgetary spending. And she put a stop to the bridge to nowhere that would have cost taxpayers $400 million dollars.

· In Alaska, she challenged a corrupt system and passed a landmark ethics reform bill.

· As the head of Alaska's National Guard and as the mother of a soldier herself, Governor Palin understands what it takes to lead our nation and she understands the importance of supporting our troops.

Governor Palin has a record of accomplishment that Barack Obama simply doesn't have. She has spent her time in office shaking up government in Alaska. Barack Obama has spent his time in office running for President.

Her experience in shaking up the status quo is exactly what we need in Washington.

In choosing Governor Palin, John McCain put Washington on notice that he is serious about shaking up the status quo.

What we're seeing is a maverick who has shaken up Washington picking as his teammate a maverick governor who has shaken up her own state.

[end of transmission]

What do we think about this internal memo? Surprised by their angle? Do you think they're asking for unintentional laughter by claiming Palin, a big supporter of American oil companies, cares this much about energy independence? Let us know your reaction in the comments.



Link Here

Updated On: 8/29/08 at 04:41 PM

[cubanpab]

Posted: 8/29/08 at 4:41pm

does anyone else think Biden's going to have a tough time being the "attack dog" now during debates... the minute he's too tough i can see the republicans crying "sexism!"

i think pippin is totally right. this is a huge trap the McCain camp set. and no matter how Obama and Biden navigate it they're going to be called sexist.
Updated On: 8/29/08 at 04:41 PM

[violet72]

Posted: 8/29/08 at 4:50pm

" And she put a stop to the bridge to nowhere that would have cost taxpayers $400 million dollars."

um wasn't that Congress? I agree about how Biden and Obama will look and it's a trap...thats why they are going to need Hilary and Nancy P and all of the strong democrat female leaders to lead the attack on her

[Mister Matt]

Posted: 8/29/08 at 4:53pm

As long as he was going to choose a conservative female senator, I'm surprised he didn't choose Kay Bailey Hutchison *shudders at the thought*, unless he had his eye on the Western states (as if he actually made the choice). At least Kay has more experience.

[cubanpab]

Posted: 8/29/08 at 4:56pm

because this is what Kay looks like:



and this is what Palin looks like:



why do I keep thinking of the show "Mad Men"? all those old republican men salivating over the "new girl"...

[DBillyP]

Posted: 8/29/08 at 4:58pm

Kay Bailey seem to want out of Washington; she is planning on running for governor of Texas.

[JustAGuy]

Posted: 8/29/08 at 5:01pm

"f the Obama camp attacks her for having little experience, thus not being able to lead, they will call hypocracy on them, given Obama's time holding office, which is longer than Palin's, but not by alot. "

Which would also mean that McCain won't be able to attack Obama for his lack of experience, considering that he has chosen a running mate that also has very little practical executive experience. It's taken away a talking point from McCain as well.

Hopefully, what this will do, is make both parties talk about the real issues, you know like...the war, the economy, health care, energy, education, equality, etc. The **** that matters...not about how long they've all been public servants...really who gives a crap? It's what you do while you're a public servant that matters, not how long you hold the office.

[mejusthavingfun]

Posted: 8/29/08 at 5:01pm

I just find it very hard to believe republicans would want her in this position. If McCain does win and do four years then what? Is she then next in line for president? I think it's a dilema. They have better but what happens in 2012? Rush Limbaugh loves her oil ties.

[miss pennywise]

Posted: 8/29/08 at 5:04pm

Stockardfan, why are you "thanking" Javero for "understanding" your point? Don't you mean you're thanking him for "agreeing" with you...because that's what he said.

Maybe I don't "understand" your point. Why are you referring repeatedly to your "personal choice" to stay home with your kids in a thread about Sarah Palin if you are not implying something more? Perhaps you are unaware that your statement within the context it appears seems critical of women who do make the "choice" you did.

I also think that you do not "understand" my point, which is that some women do not have the option to stay home. Since you're getting "personal," I will share with you the fact that I have a disabled child AND I am the parent who works outside the home. However, I do so NOT by choice but because my husband is disabled as well and CANNOT work outside the home. Therefore, in order to feed and clothe my children, I must have a job for which I receive a paycheck. Plain and simple.

I am not mentioning this because I feel that I am being judged. I bring it up because I have empathy for women who do not have the option to stay home...even if that is their preference.

It's not always about "ambition" as Javero put it. Or making a lot of money because you want a big house and lots of luxuries. Sometimes it's a matter or survival.

Therefore I do not presume to judge Sarah Palin or Barack Obama's late mother or you. Everyone has their reasons...and sometimes it has nothing to do with "personal choice."

That being said, many children benefit from growing up in non-traditional households. And if you must know, Javero, we resolved the "wet nurse" issue by buying a portable pump and filling up bottles for my husband to use when I was not home. It was NOT fun for me, trust me, but I did it for my children because I wanted to.

Now, does everyone know enough personal info about me for one day?

[Borstalboy]

Posted: 8/29/08 at 5:05pm

They're sheep. All Hail Grampy and The Prom Queen!