Another Great Liberal Idea

[Gothampc]

Posted: 5/14/08 at 12:39pm

Instead of giving change to homeless people directly, San Francisco wants you to give it to the government so they can distribute it. And we all know how quickly the government will get that money to the poor.

Dear Panhandler, instead of eating today, the government has decided that you will eat two weeks from Thursday.
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[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 5/14/08 at 12:41pm

What's the conservative solution to the homeless problem?

[Gothampc]

Posted: 5/14/08 at 12:45pm

"What's the conservative solution to the homeless problem?"

Faith based initiatives which liberals have fought so hard against.

[Calvin]

Posted: 5/14/08 at 12:45pm

Did you ever see that movie with Hugh Grant and Gene Hackman?

Wait -- nobody did.

[Roscoe]

Posted: 5/14/08 at 12:45pm

The conservative solution to the homeless problem:

Make more homeless.

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 5/14/08 at 12:47pm

Faith based initiatives which liberals have fought so hard against.

So... what would that entail? Praying until you're not hungry anymore? Praying until a roof is built over your head?

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 5/14/08 at 12:48pm

What about the Jewish homeless? Would the faith-based initiatives cover them, or would a conversion be required?
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[Elphaba]

Posted: 5/14/08 at 12:58pm

Phyllis, you forgot praying until a job appears....

Faith Based Initiatives, what a joke...

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 5/14/08 at 12:58pm

Praying you'll die so that you'll be rewarded in the "afterlife"? Do the homeless get 72 virgins?

[JustAGuy]

Posted: 5/14/08 at 12:59pm

"Instead of giving change to homeless people directly, San Francisco wants you to give it to the government so they can distribute it. And we all know how quickly the government will get that money to the poor."

"Faith based initiatives which liberals have fought so hard against."

But aren't faith based initiatives basically, government distribution of funds anyway? What's the difference between a faith based organization waiting for funds from the government to be distributed to them so they can run their social programs, and the government directly distributing the money, without going through some faith based organization? The money is all coming from the same pot.

Updated On: 5/14/08 at 12:59 PM

Posted: 5/14/08 at 1:06pm

I think Conservatives have lots of innovative ideas to deal with the homeless, from reclassifying them as "the temporarily unhoused" to eating their children as food.

[Gothampc]

Posted: 5/14/08 at 1:22pm

"But aren't faith based initiatives basically, government distribution of funds anyway?"

I didn't say I agreed with it, I just said that was the solution they proposed.

The point being is that it seems like liberals want to control everyone's lives and it usually is part of some plan to include the government as the distribution center.

[touchmeinthemorning]

Posted: 5/14/08 at 1:33pm

In the case of SF, the money collected goes directly to already-functioning institutions. I think this is a wonderful idea. I'm not sure how anyone could think it was a bad idea.

[JustAGuy]

Posted: 5/14/08 at 1:38pm

"The point being is that it seems like liberals want to control everyone's lives and it usually is part of some plan to include the government as the distribution center."

Yes, it's true. We liberals want nothing more than to have control over your lives. As far as I know the plan is to round you up, put you in some sort of detention centers, based on your social/economic/religious background. And do reparative therapy on you until you realize that the "choice" you made to be other than liberal can be over come through denial or your true self, and support of a single payer health plan.

[DG]

Posted: 5/14/08 at 1:39pm

When I think of 'faith-based initiatives', I think of how the Salvation Army handled distribution of their 9/11 funds.

And it's the LIBERALS who are supposedly trying to control people's lives?!?!?

[doodlenyc]

Posted: 5/14/08 at 1:47pm

When I think of "faith based initiatives" I think of being diddled by Father O'Malley in the Rectory.

[Gothampc]

Posted: 5/14/08 at 2:14pm

"In the case of SF, the money collected goes directly to already-functioning institutions. I think this is a wonderful idea. I'm not sure how anyone could think it was a bad idea."

So how come these already-functioning institutions are not already helping these people? What's the point of fueling money through these places if they aren't solving the problem?

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 5/14/08 at 2:31pm

What's the point of fueling money through these places if they aren't solving the problem?

Maybe a little less praying a little more reading of the article you linked to would answer that question.

[papalovesmambo]

Posted: 5/14/08 at 2:42pm

think of being diddled by father o'malley in the rectory.

that sounds awfully dirty doodle.

[Roninjoey]

Posted: 5/14/08 at 2:44pm

There are lots of institutions in place to help the homeless that do a lot of good in their communities. I'm not sure what you're complaining about. If you want to directly give a homeless person a dollar, nobody's going to arrest you.

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 5/14/08 at 2:46pm

That's one less dollar to tithe to the Lord, though.

[blueroses]

Posted: 5/14/08 at 2:46pm

"The point being is that it seems like liberals want to control everyone's lives"

Sure. It's LIBERALS who want to mandate who you can marry, control your reproductive system, decide what is suitable for you what to watch on tv or listen to on the airwaves and even what kind of birth control you're allowed to use. Gotcha.

[Gothampc]

Posted: 5/14/08 at 2:51pm

"Gotcha."

Actually not.

Marriage and reproduction are to guarantee that someone is there to pay for your Social Security. Conservatives want to make sure there are people around to do that.

As far as what you watch or listen to, it's the liberals that are pushing the Fairness Doctrine which basically forces broadcasters to broadcast things that may not help them fiscally.

[Mister Matt]

Posted: 5/14/08 at 3:00pm

The point being is that it seems like liberals want to control everyone's lives and it usually is part of some plan to include the government as the distribution center.

And it seems the conservatives want to control everyone's lives and it usually is part of some narrowly-interpreted Christian-based plan regardless the existence of the actual Constitution.

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 5/14/08 at 3:00pm

Amen.