Ashlee Simpson- Page 2

[broadway86]

Posted: 1/6/05 at 8:50am

FindingNamo-

I understand what you're saying, but I have to disagree. Completely. I don't have a problem with her voice. In fact, I think that she can sing better than a lot of current recording artists. Forget SNL. When she is not screaming or trying to reach disastrously high notes (I don't know why she chose 'LaLa' as her next single, by the way), she can sound really good.

PS - I don't know whether you meant it this way or not, but to suggest that Ashlee couldn't possibly have a fan is belittling to those who actually enjoy her.

[Carl Magnum]

Posted: 1/6/05 at 9:22am

I wish the FCC would protect us from this rather than the evils of Howard Stern. Go Away Ashlee. Why wasn't she Milli Vanillied right after this happened.

[Rathnait62]

Posted: 1/6/05 at 9:23am

This Ashlee thing is bewildering to me - I admit I have never worked in the music industry so I don't know how it works, however, she did a live show on her TV show and she was excellent. I was very impressed. Now, after her SNL problem and now this (which I haven't seen but apparently she was pretty bad), I'm not sure what to think. The songs I've heard off of her CD are quite good. I would say, perhaps she's the kind of singer who needs studio production and shouldn't ever sing live, but I did see that great performance she gave and that WAS live - I don't know how they could have doctored that to the extent it would have had to have been doctored to make it seem live. Or perhaps I'm just that gullible.

[Carl Magnum]

Posted: 1/6/05 at 9:25am

The funniest thing about jessica is her left arm when she sings. The way she flops it around like a dying fish and then points up when she goes to sing high notes. It's like "thanks for warning us you were going to screech."


And PS when is their father going to come out of the closet?

[Rathnait62]

Posted: 1/6/05 at 9:27am

As a singer I can't stand watching Jessica - the one thing that bugs me the most is when singers make it look like it's REALLY REALLY DIFFICULT. She looks like she's about to stroke out all the time and why doesn't her father or Nick or SOMEONE tell her??? She just scares me.

[broadway86]

Posted: 1/6/05 at 9:32am

"Americans are getting tired of prefab packaged model-types having singing careers."

No offense, but thank God that you don't speak for everyone. Her album is still selling very well, and she's about to go on a major tour. She's doing just fine.

[Jon]

Posted: 1/6/05 at 9:32am

Personally, If I were to suffer the back-to-back humiliations of the SNL fiasco followed by being booed by 70,000 football fans on live TV, I'd quit the business.

[son_of_a_gunn_25]

Posted: 1/6/05 at 9:35am

"No offense, but thank God that you don't speak for everyone. Her album is still selling very well, and she's about to go on a major tour. She's doing just fine."

Anyone else hear what happened at what was supposed to be the debut of Paris's music career? I saw this when I was trying to find more info on Ashley Simpson. Apparently she was at a club and ended up getting booed. She left MUCH early than expected.

[Rathnait62]

Posted: 1/6/05 at 9:35am

Jon, it may not be that simple. She and Jessica, like Britney, were raised to be performers. The girl doesn't even know how to mop a floor. Their parents have taught them nothing about nor given them any skills to live in the real world, and clearly they have no education to enable them to try.

[Carl Magnum]

Posted: 1/6/05 at 9:38am

Ashley won't be allowed to quit. Papa Rose won't let her. And the reason no one tells Jessica anything is because she is their meal ticket. See in the 80's this would have killed her carrer (the lip synking I mean). Now no one really cares. I think my sister put it best a few years ago when she said, about Britney, "I can't stand her but her music has a god beat." As long as her albums keep teenyboppers dancing in the mirror, she will have a carrer, unfortunetly.

[Rathnait62]

Posted: 1/6/05 at 9:41am

The lip synching doesn't kill careers anymore because everyone does it. And everyone knows it - it's just when someone got CAUGHT that everyone acted like it was this huge scandal.

And Carl - "Papa Rose" - that was funny on a couple of levels. Thanks.

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[son_of_a_gunn_25]

Posted: 1/6/05 at 9:42am

Rath that's the reason I do have some empathy for her. She was raised to believe a lot of that crap is ok. I hate to see anyone suffer, but I hope she is able to take this experience and learn from it. I think i would be great if she decided to quit the music business and do something she is passionate about instead of doing what daddy tells her to do. (Of course she could be passionate about music but I just don't see that fire in her.)

[Rathnait62]

Posted: 1/6/05 at 9:43am

son, she does seem to be passionate about writing music, and I think she has a talent for it. Why can't she be a pop composer?

[Carl Magnum]

Posted: 1/6/05 at 9:44am

I think the big difference here Rath and what I and most of us forget about when we mention the Milli fiasco, is that they were singing to someone else's voice all together. And the Ashlee fans will defend her to the death because she is singing to a track of her own voice. Her own digitally enhanced voice, but her voice non the less. Well at least I don't allow her to pollute my radio.

[son_of_a_gunn_25]

Posted: 1/6/05 at 9:46am

Hmmm maybe I should have said performing instead of music. Sorry. If she has the talent for it she should write, and stick behind the scenes. If that is what she is passionate about then let her do that, but it is possible that she'll stick with her indoctrination and not think for herself.

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[ckeaton]

Posted: 1/6/05 at 9:46am

I can't stand either of them to be quite honest. But Ashlee bothers me the most.

It's probably cause she is making it a point to look bad. "Oh, my sister is the hot one, so I will strive to look like the gum on the bottom of some goth kid's shoe". The true test of her character was the way that she blamed her band for the SNL fiasco.

[Rathnait62]

Posted: 1/6/05 at 9:46am

Well that's why I don't lump her in with Milli Vanilli. But everyone lipsynchs to their own voices these days, and no one cares - until someone gets caught and then we jump on it and act like it's shocking.

[JohnPopa]

Posted: 1/6/05 at 9:52am

And, to be fair, shows like American Bandstand and the like were completely lip synched back 'in the day.'

Ashlee sucking has little to do with her SNL blunder and more to do with, hopefully, the audience as a whole turning on this whole pre-packaged, generic pop nonsense.

Can she carry a tune? Sure. So what?

[ckeaton]

Posted: 1/6/05 at 9:52am

I'm not sure "EVERYBODY" does it, oh defender of plastic drive-thru pop.

It's understandible in stadium situations, perhaps because of the unique acoustical challenges. (Though people sing the national anthem every day without tracks.)

In a studio situation, there is NO EXCUSE to use tracks. Britney blames it on the dancing... Ashlee stands there looking like dung, singing bad pop.

[Rathnait62]

Posted: 1/6/05 at 9:54am

Okay, ckeaton, I should say MOST pop singers do it. Is that better?

And JohnPopa, I remember as a kid being amazed that the pop singers on TV sang the songs EXACTLY as they were sung on the radio and on my records, with NO deviation - I thought that was some talent!!! Seriously. I did.

[ckeaton]

Posted: 1/6/05 at 9:59am

Better, perhaps, if we can get back to true talent.

I've said it 100 times. I am amazed by the thousands of theatre veterans that can go in front of an audience 8 times a week and sound flawless without studio mixing or tracks. There is true talent in the world.

Many of our "pop stars" have little or NO talent... they have made MILLIONS on that...

[Rathnait62]

Posted: 1/6/05 at 10:01am

You make a valid point, ck, however, a lot of the singers on Broadway aren't very good either, and certainly a sad number of them wouldn't make it onto the stage without amplification. Perhaps those singers should become the pop singers - they sing much better than the ones out there, but not as well nor as powerfully as they should for Broadway.

[Carl Magnum]

Posted: 1/6/05 at 10:07am

It's funny you bring up American Bandstand. Cause even legends did it, like The Who and The Stones. Funny story, Syd Barret, the original lead guitarist and lead singer/songwriter of Pink Floyd refused to lipsink. So when they were on Top Of The Pops as the rest of the band played along to the track, Barret sat cross legged on a platform and stared at the camera while the track played.


Keith Moon was also known to over or underexagerate his drum playing whenever The Who would play to a track on Bandstand of Top Of The Pops.

[ckeaton]

Posted: 1/6/05 at 10:07am

We can found two teams.

Team Rath will be comprised of a bunch of pretty southern spawn of stage parents in waiting who push and prod them into the spotlight, avoiding all training or character building "education", regardless of talent or skill. Their mascot will be the "American Idon't"

Team Keaton will be comprised of attractive young adults who have worked their way through school, paid their dues, and sculpted voices and talent out of what was given to them naturally. They have no mascot, because they're serious about their craft.

They will be put on a stage in front of thousands of people and asked to perform one song without mixing, just amplification and a dash of reverb.

We'll see who truly deserves the recording contract.

[Rathnait62]

Posted: 1/6/05 at 10:09am

Who deserves the contract is one thing - who will sell records is completely another. And that is absolutely the fault and responsibility of the American public.

Updated On: 1/6/05 at 10:09 AM