Best UN Speech EVER!! - Do this one for a monolouge!

[mejusthavingfun]

Posted: 9/20/06 at 10:21pm

Please read this. It is incredible, this man has balIs to say this on US soil and I'm proud of him. I don't really agree with all of his policies, but he is on the money with the US and Bush. I only wish Bush could speak as eloquently as this man, and it is through a translator.


PRESIDENT CHAVEZ DELIVERS REMARKS AT THE U.N. GENERAL ASSEMBLY
SEPTEMBER 20, 2006

"Representatives of the governments of the world, good morning to all of you. First of all, I would like to invite you, very respectfully, to those who have not read this book, to read it. Noam Chomsky, one of the most prestigious American and world intellectuals, Noam Chomsky, and this is one of his most recent books, 'Hegemony or Survival: The Imperialist Strategy of the United States.'" [Holds up book, waves it in front of General Assembly.]

"It's an excellent book to help us understand what has been happening in the world throughout the 20th century, and what's happening now, and the greatest threat looming over our planet. The hegemonic pretensions of the American empire are placing at risk the very survival of the human species. We continue to warn you about this danger and we appeal to the people of the United States and the world to halt this threat, which is like a sword hanging over our heads. I had considered reading from this book, but, for the sake of time," [flips through the pages, which are numerous] "I will just leave it as a recommendation.

It reads easily, it is a very good book, I'm sure Madame [President] you are familiar with it. It appears in English, in Russian, in Arabic, in German. I think that the first people who should read this book are our brothers and sisters in the United States, because their threat is right in their own house. The devil is right at home. The devil, the devil himself, is right in the house.

"And the devil came here yesterday. Yesterday the devil came here. Right here." [crosses himself]

"And it smells of sulfur still today."

Yesterday, ladies and gentlemen, from this rostrum, the president of the United States, the gentleman to whom I refer as the devil, came here, talking as if he owned the world. Truly. As the owner of the world.

I think we could call a psychiatrist to analyze yesterday's statement made by the president of the United States. As the spokesman of imperialism, he came to share his nostrums, to try to preserve the current pattern of domination, exploitation and pillage of the peoples of the world.

An Alfred Hitchcock movie could use it as a scenario. I would even propose a title: "The Devil's Recipe."

As Chomsky says here, clearly and in depth, the American empire is doing all it can to consolidate its system of domination. And we cannot allow them to do that. We cannot allow world dictatorship to be consolidated.

CHAVEZ (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): The world parent's statement -- cynical, hypocritical, full of this imperial hypocrisy from the need they have to control everything.

They say they want to impose a democratic model. But that's their democratic model. It's the false democracy of elites, and, I would say, a very original democracy that's imposed by weapons and bombs and firing weapons.

What a strange democracy. Aristotle might not recognize it or others who are at the root of democracy.

What type of democracy do you impose with marines and bombs?

The president of the United States, yesterday, said to us, right here, in this room, and I'm quoting, "Anywhere you look, you hear extremists telling you can escape from poverty and recover your dignity through violence, terror and martyrdom."

Wherever he looks, he sees extremists. And you, my brother -- he looks at your color, and he says, oh, there's an extremist. Evo Morales, the worthy president of Bolivia, looks like an extremist to him.

The imperialists see extremists everywhere. It's not that we are extremists. It's that the world is waking up. It's waking up all over. And people are standing up.

I have the feeling, dear world dictator, that you are going to live the rest of your days as a nightmare because the rest of us are standing up, all those who are rising up against American imperialism, who are shouting for equality, for respect, for the sovereignty of nations.

CHAVEZ (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): Yes, you can call us extremists, but we are rising up against the empire, against the model of domination.

The president then -- and this he said himself, he said: "I have come to speak directly to the populations in the Middle East, to tell them that my country wants peace."

That's true. If we walk in the streets of the Bronx, if we walk around New York, Washington, San Diego, in any city, San Antonio, San Francisco, and we ask individuals, the citizens of the United States, what does this country want? Does it want peace? They'll say yes.

But the government doesn't want peace. The government of the United States doesn't want peace. It wants to exploit its system of exploitation, of pillage, of hegemony through war.

It wants peace. But what's happening in Iraq? What happened in Lebanon? In Palestine? What's happening? What's happened over the last 100 years in Latin America and in the world? And now threatening Venezuela -- new threats against Venezuela, against Iran?

He spoke to the people of Lebanon. Many of you, he said, have seen how your homes and communities were caught in the crossfire. How cynical can you get? What a capacity to lie shamefacedly. The bombs in Beirut with millimetric precision?

CHAVEZ (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): This is crossfire? He's thinking of a western, when people would shoot from the hip and somebody would be caught in the crossfire.

This is imperialist, fascist, assassin, genocidal, the empire and Israel firing on the people of Palestine and Lebanon. That is what happened. And now we hear, "We're suffering because we see homes destroyed.'

The president of the United States came to talk to the peoples -- to the peoples of the world. He came to say -- I brought some documents with me, because this morning I was reading some statements, and I see that he talked to the people of Afghanistan, the people of Lebanon, the people of Iran. And he addressed all these peoples directly.

And you can wonder, just as the president of the United States addresses those peoples of the world, what would those peoples of the world tell him if they were given the floor? What would they have to say?

And I think I have some inkling of what the peoples of the south, the oppressed people think. They would say, "Yankee imperialist, go home." I think that is what those people would say if they were given the microphone and if they could speak with one voice to the American imperialists.

And that is why, Madam President, my colleagues, my friends, last year we came here to this same hall as we have been doing for the past eight years, and we said something that has now been confirmed -- fully, fully confirmed.

CHAVEZ (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): I don't think anybody in this room could defend the system. Let's accept -- let's be honest. The U.N. system, born after the Second World War, collapsed. It's worthless.

Oh, yes, it's good to bring us together once a year, see each other, make statements and prepare all kinds of long documents, and listen to good speeches, like Abel's (ph) yesterday, or President Mullah's (ph). Yes, it's good for that.

And there are a lot of speeches, and we've heard lots from the president of Sri Lanka, for instance, and the president of Chile.

But we, the assembly, have been turned into a merely deliberative organ. We have no power, no power to make any impact on the terrible situation in the world. And that is why Venezuela once again proposes, here, today, 20 September, that we re-establish the United Nations.

Last year, Madam, we made four modest proposals that we felt to be crucially important. We have to assume the responsibility our heads of state, our ambassadors, our representatives, and we have to discuss it.

The first is expansion, and Mullah (ph) talked about this yesterday right here. The Security Council, both as it has permanent and non-permanent categories, (inaudible) developing countries and LDCs must be given access as new permanent members. That's step one.

CHAVEZ (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): Second, effective methods to address and resolve world conflicts, transparent decisions.

Point three, the immediate suppression -- and that is something everyone's calling for -- of the anti-democratic mechanism known as the veto, the veto on decisions of the Security Council.

Let me give you a recent example. The immoral veto of the United States allowed the Israelis, with impunity, to destroy Lebanon. Right in front of all of us as we stood there watching, a resolution in the council was prevented.

Fourthly, we have to strengthen, as we've always said, the role and the powers of the secretary general of the United Nations.

Yesterday, the secretary general practically gave us his speech of farewell. And he recognized that over the last 10 years, things have just gotten more complicated; hunger, poverty, violence, human rights violations have just worsened. That is the tremendous consequence of the collapse of the United Nations system and American hegemonistic pretensions.

Madam, Venezuela a few years ago decided to wage this battle within the United Nations by recognizing the United Nations, as members of it that we are, and lending it our voice, our thinking.

Our voice is an independent voice to represent the dignity and the search for peace and the reformulation of the international system; to denounce persecution and aggression of hegemonistic forces on the planet.

CHAVEZ (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): This is how Venezuela has presented itself. Bolivar's home has sought a nonpermanent seat on the Security Council.

Let's see. Well, there's been an open attack by the U.S. government, an immoral attack, to try and prevent Venezuela from being freely elected to a post in the Security Council.

The imperium is afraid of truth, is afraid of independent voices. It calls us extremists, but they are the extremists.

And I would like to thank all the countries that have kindly announced their support for Venezuela, even though the ballot is a secret one and there's no need to announce things.

But since the imperium has attacked, openly, they strengthened the convictions of many countries. And their support strengthens us.

Mercosur, as a bloc, has expressed its support, our brothers in Mercosur. Venezuela, with Brazil, Argentina, Paraguay, Uruguay, is a full member of Mercosur.

And many other Latin American countries, CARICOM, Bolivia have expressed their support for Venezuela. The Arab League, the full Arab League has voiced its support. And I am immensely grateful to the Arab world, to our Arab brothers, our Caribbean brothers, the African Union. Almost all of Africa has expressed its support for Venezuela and countries such as Russia or China and many others.

CHAVEZ (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): I thank you all warmly on behalf of Venezuela, on behalf of our people, and on behalf of the truth, because Venezuela, with a seat on the Security Council, will be expressing not only Venezuela's thoughts, but it will also be the voice of all the peoples of the world, and we will defend dignity and truth.

Over and above all of this, Madam President, I think there are reasons to be optimistic. A poet would have said "helplessly optimistic," because over and above the wars and the bombs and the aggressive and the preventive war and the destruction of entire peoples, one can see that a new era is dawning.

As Sylvia Rodriguez (ph) says, the era is giving birth to a heart. There are alternative ways of thinking. There are young people who think differently. And this has already been seen within the space of a mere decade. It was shown that the end of history was a totally false assumption, and the same was shown about Pax Americana and the establishment of the capitalist neo-liberal world. It has been shown, this system, to generate mere poverty. Who believes in it now?

What we now have to do is define the future of the world. Dawn is breaking out all over. You can see it in Africa and Europe and Latin America and Oceanea. I want to emphasize that optimistic vision.

We have to strengthen ourselves, our will to do battle, our awareness. We have to build a new and better world.

Venezuela joins that struggle, and that's why we are threatened. The U.S. has already planned, financed and set in motion a coup in Venezuela, and it continues to support coup attempts in Venezuela and elsewhere.

CHAVEZ (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): President Michelle Bachelet reminded us just a moment ago of the horrendous assassination of the former foreign minister, Orlando Letelier.

And I would just add one thing: Those who perpetrated this crime are free. And that other event where an American citizen also died were American themselves. They were CIA killers, terrorists.

And we must recall in this room that in just a few days there will be another anniversary. Thirty years will have passed from this other horrendous terrorist attack on the Cuban plane, where 73 innocents died, a Cubana de Aviacion airliner.

And where is the biggest terrorist of this continent who took the responsibility for blowing up the plane? He spent a few years in jail in Venezuela. Thanks to CIA and then government officials, he was allowed to escape, and he lives here in this country, protected by the government.

And he was convicted. He has confessed to his crime. But the U.S. government has double standards. It protects terrorism when it wants to.

And this is to say that Venezuela is fully committed to combating terrorism and violence. And we are one of the people who are fighting for peace.

Luis Posada Carriles is the name of that terrorist who is protected here. And other tremendously corrupt people who escaped from Venezuela are also living here under protection: a group that bombed various embassies, that assassinated people during the coup. They kidnapped me and they were going to kill me, but I think God reached down and our people came out into the streets and the army was too, and so I'm here today.

But these people who led that coup are here today in this country protected by the American government. And I accuse the American government of protecting terrorists and of having a completely cynical discourse.

CHAVEZ (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): We mentioned Cuba. Yes, we were just there a few days ago. We just came from there happily.

And there you see another era born. The Summit of the 15, the Summit of the Nonaligned, adopted a historic resolution. This is the outcome document. Don't worry, I'm not going to read it.

But you have a whole set of resolutions here that were adopted after open debate in a transparent matter -- more than 50 heads of state. Havana was the capital of the south for a few weeks, and we have now launched, once again, the group of the nonaligned with new momentum.

And if there is anything I could ask all of you here, my companions, my brothers and sisters, it is to please lend your good will to lend momentum to the Nonaligned Movement for the birth of the new era, to prevent hegemony and prevent further advances of imperialism.

And as you know, Fidel Castro is the president of the nonaligned for the next three years, and we can trust him to lead the charge very efficiently.

Unfortunately they thought, "Oh, Fidel was going to die." But they're going to be disappointed because he didn't. And he's not only alive, he's back in his green fatigues, and he's now presiding the nonaligned.

So, my dear colleagues, Madam President, a new, strong movement has been born, a movement of the south. We are men and women of the south.

With this document, with these ideas, with these criticisms, I'm now closing my file. I'm taking the book with me. And, don't forget, I'm recommending it very warmly and very humbly to all of you.

CHAVEZ (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): We want ideas to save our planet, to save the planet from the imperialist threat. And hopefully in this very century, in not too long a time, we will see this, we will see this new era, and for our children and our grandchildren a world of peace based on the fundamental principles of the United Nations, but a renewed United Nations.

And maybe we have to change location. Maybe we have to put the United Nations somewhere else; maybe a city of the south. We've proposed Venezuela.

You know that my personal doctor had to stay in the plane. The chief of security had to be left in a locked plane. Neither of these gentlemen was allowed to arrive and attend the U.N. meeting. This is another abuse and another abuse of power on the part of the Devil. It smells of sulfur here, but God is with us and I embrace you all.

May God bless us all. Good day to you.

(APPLAUSE)

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[DG]

Posted: 9/21/06 at 5:07am

[papalovesmambo]

Posted: 9/21/06 at 7:08am

...i don't subscribe to his point of view, believe me when i say to you i hope the venezuelans love their children to.

[jpwintergreen]

Posted: 9/21/06 at 7:50am

maybe the dems will run Chavez on their Fall ticket

[Gothampc]

Posted: 9/21/06 at 8:57am

"It is incredible, this man has balIs to say this on US soil and I'm proud of him."

This man was not on US soil when he made this speech. Instead of being a fangurl for dictators, why don't you pick up a book and learn something.

Updated On: 9/21/06 at 08:57 AM

[Gothampc]

Posted: 9/21/06 at 11:29am

"He said this at the UN"

The UN is not US soil. It is considered International soil.

[mejusthavingfun]

Posted: 9/21/06 at 11:37am

I was not aware of that, in anycase he was in shooting range.

[romantico]

Posted: 9/21/06 at 11:44am

Mejusthavingfun, I kind of thought the same thing when I heard his speech. I have to be careful how I word it because its a very fine line, but I don't disagree with him on this. I don't agree with alot of his policies, but I do think his words hit home and he made his point clearly.

[PalJoey]

Posted: 9/21/06 at 12:01pm

Anyone that disagrees with anything the Israeli government does is a wrong and will be treated as such. This is done by Democrats and Republicans alike (where do you think they get their campaign contributions.)

What are you insinuating with that statement?

[mejusthavingfun]

Posted: 9/21/06 at 12:02pm

Romantico - It appears he walked a fine line in the speech. He could have went into crazy conspiracy theories and been hypocritical about governing. He could have also said more in way of support in Cuba and Iran.

The first thing the republicans here did was tar and feather him with associations to Cindy Sheehan. She has never done anything wrong, and despite popular belief and a bad haircut is not crazy. After that, they used his association with rogue nations against him. Of course they fail to say he has positive relations with many other US allies around the world. They also fail to mention how our own administration benefits by funding oppressive governments around the world.

The best thing about this speech was it was all True. Every word is true. The only thing that is disputable is whether Bush is the devil or not. I love what he said about what Americans want. It made me so proud to be an American, something Bush has never done.

[romantico]

Posted: 9/21/06 at 12:10pm

Mejusthavingfun, didn't you get the memo? Thats what the republicans/Karl Rove does. They "Swiftboat" anyone who dares speak out against them or Bush.Doesn't matter if its true, as long as the lie is out there, thats all they care about. Just don't ask them to back it up.

[mejusthavingfun]

Posted: 9/21/06 at 12:16pm

I'm not insinuating anything, I am stating something. It may not be the best prose. Let me reword it.

Anyone in the WORLD or US that do not approve of Israeli policy is wrong (per our US leaders). The policy and can be morally, ethically wrong or right it doesn't matter. This is a standard that has been established by both the Republican and Democratic camps. If you do not believe me, go back a few weeks and read everything you can about the invasion of Lebanon.

The Israeli lobby in the United states is VERY powerful. Often times more powerful than the farming and oil lobbyist. Groups like AIPAC (America Israel Public Affairs Committee) fund campaigns and policies that directly support their cause. (That is what lobbyists do, it's not wrong). What's wrong is the flow of cash. The money that is used for these contributions is laundered from the some $80+ billion dollars in aid that the US allocates to the State of Israel.

Updated On: 9/21/06 at 12:16 PM

[papalovesmambo]

Posted: 9/21/06 at 12:27pm

*s*

not only that, but the jews are responsible for all of the wars in history, pj!

[mejusthavingfun]

Posted: 9/21/06 at 12:43pm

Papa- That is the kind of rhetoric that really hurts. That is the spin that negates my argument and has nothing to do with it. I never said that, and most Anti-Israeli policy people do not say or think that. Chavez never said it.

*Mel Gibson may say that, but he is a drunk, religious zealot among other things.

I do not know where that all started, but there are hundreds of wars that involve 0 Jews. You would have to be as stupid as George Bush to make a statement like that. Plus it's not even worth defending it's preposterous.


We are not talking mass conspiracy here or blaming wars on Jews. Everything Chavez said is salient and true. He nor have I mentioned anything that alludes to a vast conspiracy.

I could say Jews are responsible for all the peace in the world, is that true, does it have anything to do with anything?

[PalJoey]

Posted: 9/21/06 at 1:12pm

Embroidering that vast AIPAC conspiracy theory is an old technique of the Jew-haters, like Pat Buchanan.

It's just more socially acceptable to hate Israel than Jews, but it all comes down to the same wipe-'em-off-the-face-of-the-earth, Jew-hating rhetoric.

I don't agree with the current poliicies of the Isaeli government, but I have NEVER agreed with ANY of the policies of any of its enemies.

The "theocracy" you refer to gives more rights to women and gays than any other country in the region.

I think you should examine what you say.

[papalovesmambo]

Posted: 9/21/06 at 1:15pm

"refreshing" to someone who joined the board today? how lovely, little mister argyle. one screenname per customer please.

[PalJoey]

Posted: 9/21/06 at 1:20pm

It seems in looking at paljoey's responses in various threads, he is all too ready to label people antisemitic

I never use the term "antisemetic." It's too imprecise.

I use the phrase "Jew-hater" when people scapegoat and make Jews the problem.

I think scapegoating is major problem in the world. I hate when Republicans scapegoat gays, and I hate when right-wingers, leftists and Islamists scapegoat Jews.

But I never use the term "antisemetic."

[South Fl Marc]

Posted: 9/21/06 at 1:30pm

" "refreshing" to someone who joined the board today? how lovely, little mister argyle. one screenname per customer please. "

Probably needs a different screenname for each one of his faces.

Maybe I'm just getting to be a curmudgeon, but extremeists from both sides really irritate the hell out of me. I actually get more bothered by left wing extremeists. While I may agree with some of the things they say, they add on other ideas that are both damaging to causes I believe in and just plain irresponsible.
Updated On: 9/21/06 at 01:30 PM

[mejusthavingfun]

Posted: 9/21/06 at 1:33pm

PalJoey:

>Embroidering that vast AIPAC conspiracy theory is an old >technique of the Jew-haters, like Pat Buchanan. It's just more >socially acceptable to hate Israel than Jews, but it all comes >down to the same wipe-'em-off-the-face-of-the-earth, Jew->hating rhetoric.

I don't hate Jews, and what is wrong with the TRUTH? These are facts! Most politicians would tell you AIPAC endorses them. This isn't a conspiracy theory. This is a FACT. You actually believe that AIPAC has no influence on the US government? You think our hands-off approach to the war in Lebanon was what our taxpayers wanted?


>>The "theocracy" you refer to gives more rights to women and gays than any other country in the region.

This does not make it a democracy. It also says very little for an area that is mostly theocracies and fledgling democracies.

Israel has no constitution; Israel is defined as the state of the Jewish people, providing special rights and privileges to anyone in the world who is Jewish and seeks to live there, over and above longtime Arab residents.
Israel bars any candidate from holding office who thinks the country should be a secular, democratic state with equal rights for all. Non-Jews are restricted in terms of how much land they can own, and in which places they can own land at all, thanks to laws granting preferential treatment to Jewish residents. Even the Israeli Supreme Court has acknowledged the use of torture against suspected “terrorists” and other “enemies” of the Jewish state.

For some, it is apparently sufficient that Israel has an electoral system, and that Arabs have the right to vote in those elections (though just how equally this right is protected is of course a different matter). The fact that one can't vote for a candidate who questions the special Jewish nature of the state, because such candidates can't run for or hold office, strikes most as irrelevant — hardly enough for them to call into question Israel's democratic credentials.

I think you should examine what you say.

[papalovesmambo]

Posted: 9/21/06 at 1:34pm

i love it when the socks get washed.

[South Fl Marc]

Posted: 9/21/06 at 1:38pm

Oy, now I have a major headache - and I don't know if its from some of these totally incomprehensible posts or the mild concussion I got last week.

[papalovesmambo]

Posted: 9/21/06 at 1:41pm

y'okay, marc?

[mejusthavingfun]

Posted: 9/21/06 at 1:41pm

I dont know what washing socks means. Who is Mr. Argyle? I saw someone post before me a few posts ago. It had a woman in a picture i think. Now they are gone.

[mejusthavingfun]

Posted: 9/21/06 at 1:44pm

ok, cause it thought someone thought it was me. i dont need another screen name and i could care less if someone backs me up. I don't need backing, I haven't posted lies.

But thanks for agreeing Updated On: 9/21/06 at 01:44 PM

[South Fl Marc]

Posted: 9/21/06 at 1:48pm

"y'okay, marc?"


Oh I'm OK - Now - just something really stupid happened last week.

The door to our bedroom bathroom broke , so my partner took it off and leaned it against the wall. A couple days later I was in the room , and our dog bumped into the door and when I turned to see what had happened it smashed into my forehead. Now I have a major gash in my forehead and a minor concussion.

Sounds fun, no?
Updated On: 9/21/06 at 01:48 PM