Big 3 Bailout - The Senate Bails On It — Page 3

"And yes, JustAGuy , I do think that $36. should be minimum, $36 or its equivalent. This doesn't mean that a small pizza business should pay the worker $36 hr, but the pizza worker should get that much at least."

If not the business owner...then who will pay his salary? Where will this money come from?

"And no, workers in these poorly paying jobs are not always uneducated. I know some very creative & intelligent & educated people who've had to work in these jobs!"

I never said they were uneducated...or unintelligent or lacking in creativity. When I was in high school I worked minimum wage jobs...but I also realized that if I wanted a higher salary I was going to have to get the training.

Good luck with your $36 an hour minimum wage plan. But I wouldn't expect everyone else's wages to remain the same...somehow I don't think the entry level attorney is going to stand for making the same as the pizza delivery person. I know my hourly rate will definitely be going up.

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"I answered that here:
This doesn't mean that a small pizza business should pay the worker $36 hr, but the pizza worker should get that much at least. This is where the government should step in and provide health insurance, housing & education subsidies and other things to compensate the full time worker in a sub-living wage job."

You answered that the government should step in, but where does the MONEY come from to provide the education subsidies,the nice house as opposed to the middle class house, (whatever that is) or any house.

I'm all for socialized medicine I think everyone should be entitled to excellent health care. But...that's just about the limit to my socialized feelings. I think it's absurd to think that the government owes you a nice house. Do they owe you a new car too, so you can get to work? Or maybe free subway and bus fare? Or tickets to a Broadway show...so you can broaden your cultural horizons. Where does it stop?

"You seem to feel that it's OK for people to work full time and not make a living. I find that to be obscene."

No...I think that people deserve a living wage. But $36 dollars an hour is more than a living wage.

I don't think a high schooler... or anyone for that matter deserves $36 an hour for working at McDonalds or delivering pizza or packing groceries at the local supermarket. I don't think that you can equate someone who has worked for a degree and has specialized training in a particular field to someone who has no special skills and expect them to both be paid the same. It makes no sense to me. It doesn't mean that the person without those skills isn't worthy of a living wage...but if the minimum wage earner...gets the nice house and the education subsidies...where is the incentive to be anything more than a minimum wage earner? I think taking the incentive to achieve out of the equation is obscene as well.

Can you imagine paying these two $70,000 a year, for their stellar work at KFC?

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Updated On: 12/13/08 at 04:58 PM

OMG JustAGuy! Are those really the KFC sink bathers??? Love that pic (although that water looks awfully cloudy - ewwww)! Skank-arific!

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Updated On: 12/14/08 at 07:13 AM

Can't stand the truth?

BTW I get my pizzas at Rainbow Foods. Five for $3.00. Don't need no tommyboy to deliver them.

Eat your heart out.

And God Bless You, anyway.

Don't be odd.
Get with God.

It is not a bailout -- it is a LOAN. And there is a presidence for it. The government loaned Iaccoca and Chrysler and it was paid back with interest. The taxpayers actually made money!

Jack -- Only people from the south spell Detroit with EEEE. Is Sen. Shelby polishing your knoBBBB? Or your his???

i pray that the democrats take up this $36 an hour living wage cause. it will ensure a swift return to gop power.

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nope, ywiw, everyone will earn $36/hr. no exceptions. everyone earns the same thing and everyone is happy. peace reigns. there are no poor because everyone earns the same. everyone has homes and healthcare. there is no suffering and the children all sign hymns to mother earth. you corporate fatcats just refuse to let the peoples' voices be heard with your fatcat greedy ways.

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Well, my old car just died, so I will be doing my part to help the auto industry this weekend when I have to go out and buy a new car.

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accidental double-post :P

Updated On: 12/17/08 at 04:27 PM

"Anyway, $36. an hr = good starting pay. Governments can do that if they can bankroll prolonged unwinnable wars."

And look at the now incredible National Debt and deficit that the government has run up because of bankrolling that ridiculous war. We're going to be attempting to pay that off for decades, at the cost of social programs that would actually benefit low income and minimum wage earners.

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Updated On: 12/16/08 at 05:21 PM

Anyway, $36. an hr = good starting pay.

On what planet? Even most college educated people I know don't make that much money.