Boob Jobs- Page 2

[SweetQintheLights]

Posted: 10/23/06 at 12:06am

Sort of a threadjack but addition to siamese-

Again, in my sociology class we were talking about how society sees people- specifically women and how they are seen as "objects." If you watch commercials or see magazines, you are going to see a woman- often dressed "sexy" or being provative.

If you don't know- there are professor evaluations done at college towards the end of the semester.

Well, there was a study done taking evaluations from like 100 different professors/classes.
Seperately, pictures of these professors were shown to a group of 50 college students and the students either had to pick
"cute/sexy" "Ok" or "Not attractive" for each professor.

It was found that the "cute/sexy" professors got much better ratings on the preofessor evaluations overall which goes to show how much a person's image plays in society.

It is almost guarenteed that if the students who filled out the evaluations were blinded for the whole semester, the evaluations would be completely different.

[nomdeplume]

Posted: 10/23/06 at 12:08am

Hmmm...

I wonder if the saline solution implants have wave action...

[Unknown User]

Posted: 10/23/06 at 12:10am

Again, in my sociology class we were talking about how society sees people- specifically women and how they are seen as "objects."

Right. And every time a woman gets a boob job, they are not only buying into that notion, but also taking a step back for women in general.

And yes, attractive people are often paid more or perceived to be more skilled at their job. However, there is a line that has to be drawn. If female professors are going to get boob jobs because they want to get better evaluations, should male professors start stuffing a sock in their crotch? There are ways to make yourself look attractive - yes, within society's implicit guidelines - without going through an invasive surgery.

[nomdeplume]

Posted: 10/23/06 at 12:11am

I don't think ballerinas get them.

It could throw them off balance.

[SweetQintheLights]

Posted: 10/23/06 at 12:12am

siamese-

Sorry if I wasn't clear. The evaluations were not only for the women but for the men too so the study was both sexes


Edit: They (the students) were obviously not marking the professor specifically on their teaching but rather their looks.
And, at this point in time, it's inevitable. We all do it to a certain extent whether we think so or not.

And, not to threadjack again but if you see a group of large teenage guys who are wearing all the "bling," would you not be more aware, nervous, or cautious than you would be if you see a couple of young girls?

Updated On: 10/23/06 at 12:12 AM

[nomdeplume]

Posted: 10/23/06 at 12:13am

Think of the Amazon warrior women who chopped a breast off as it interfered with their sword action.

[justagirl2]

Posted: 10/23/06 at 12:15am

OK, I think I just became a hypochondriac. My boobs hurt now.

[wonderwaiter]

Posted: 10/23/06 at 12:15am

Whatchoo talkin' 'bout, Willis?

[Unknown User]

Posted: 10/23/06 at 12:16am

Okay, right, attractiveness plays a role in how competent someone is perceived to be at his or her job. I get that. However, as I said, if you're desperate to look attractive or sexy or cute or whatever term you want to throw around, there are other ways to do that short of getting surgery. Dyeing your hair is one thing, stuffing something inside your body surgically is another, and I believe a line has to be drawn short of the latter.

[nomdeplume]

Posted: 10/23/06 at 12:17am

I could see someone wanting to make them smaller if they got in the way or they found them too big or heavy.

[SweetQintheLights]

Posted: 10/23/06 at 12:20am

nom- that is so me!!

Seriously, if I had the money and time, I'd do it.

I even think that's why my back hurts sometimes. I wear like really loose shirts because I am so self- conscious.

I mean, me being me, I'm not the type to wear tight or skimpy clothing but I wish I could wear something better than a large t-shirt to cover up.

[nomdeplume]

Posted: 10/23/06 at 12:22am

There was a camp song...

Do your boobs hang low?
Do they wobble to and fro?
Can you tie 'em in a knot?
Can you tie 'em in a bow?
Can you throw 'em over your shoulder
Like a Continental soldier?
Do your boobs hang low?

[orangeskittles]

Posted: 10/23/06 at 12:27am

One could arguably turn this into a discussion about Darwin’s theory regarding survival of the fittest—hence adapting to the changes in your environment.
If it WERE about Darwinism, only big-breasted women would be reproducing and there wouldn't be small-breasted women at this level of human evolution. Surgery only screws up natural evolution. The "fittest" is about genetics; if a woman is naturally an A-cup and she has implants, she's still going to pass on her A-cup genes to her children. It defeats the purpose survival of the fittest.


I also object to the notion that small chested women are sad and depressed, and are not confident, happy people. Until someone provides me with a scientific study proving that women with big boobs are happier than women with small boobs, I'm calling bullsh*t on that. In fact, women who take drastic measures- such as plastic surgery- to alter their physical apppearance HAVE been proven to have higher rates of depression than women who keep it natural. That's why many cosmestic surgerical procedures require counseling.

I think it's absolutely disgusting and ridiculous to buy into the "Double-D is the way to be!" standard of the porn industry. If this ideal weren't being forced onto women, they wouldn't have reason to be self-conscious about their small chests in the first place.

I wear like really loose shirts because I am so self- conscious.

I mean, me being me, I'm not the type to wear tight or skimpy clothing but I wish I could wear something better than a large t-shirt to cover up.
This kind of disproves the point of yours that I paraphrased above, where you claimed it was SMALL-breasted women that weren't confident with their appearance.

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[nomdeplume]

Posted: 10/23/06 at 12:29am

I could see replacing a boob if you lost one to an accident or disease.

[Unknown User]

Posted: 10/23/06 at 12:32am

For the record, I wasn't talking about breast reductions that are done as a result of back pain or health problems. One of my friends had this done last year, and I supported her every step of the way. Plastic surgery done for a legitimate medical reason is different than surgery done out of vainity. Of course, I also obviously hope that someone getting a breast reduction has tried other methods of weight loss first.

[SweetQintheLights]

Posted: 10/23/06 at 12:32am

skittles, I'd respond to your comments and I would give you proof- I'd tell you which sociology book to buy but...

I won't since whatever I say you feel you have to argue with.

I just wanted to let you know that I read your post, understand it and why I am not responding directly to it.

[Unknown User]

Posted: 10/23/06 at 12:33am

Because you know that she disproved you on every count and you have no ground to stand on?

[nomdeplume]

Posted: 10/23/06 at 12:35am

I could see if you were born with a congenital mismatch of breasts to have them made to look symmetrical in shape or size if you didn't want them to draw attention for being unusual.

[orangeskittles]

Posted: 10/23/06 at 12:40am

God SweetQ, I was just trying to contribute to the conversation because it's something I feel seriously about. It's not like I reacted only to your blatant discrepancies, I was responding to multiple posts on the thread, as well as offering my own opinion on the matter. If I wanted to turn it into a personal attack and post only to disagree with whatever you said, I'd say something along the lines of "I have small boobs and I have infinitely less psychological problems than you do, so therefore, women with small boobs are more well-adjusted human beings than women with big boobs" and wouldn't have said anything about my own personal feelings on the matter, let alone respond to Marlene's Darwinism theory. You're the one that made it personal, not me.

nomdeplume, I do agree with that. I don't have problems with women who have mastectomies and want to replace what was lost, but that vast majority of the time, that isn't the case.

Updated On: 10/23/06 at 12:40 AM

[SweetQintheLights]

Posted: 10/23/06 at 12:42am

Ok, to begin to prove my point, start reading these 2 books. I am trying to find the other 2 I read.

http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?z=y&EAN=9781885171276&itm=20

http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?z=y&EAN=9780205335336&itm=3

[nomdeplume]

Posted: 10/23/06 at 12:45am

Or if someone was born with more than two boobs, I could see them pressing the delete button on the extra(s), no pun intended.

[orangeskittles]

Posted: 10/23/06 at 12:52am

Except, nearly ALL studies say that women who have cosmetic surgery have higher rates of depression, even after their surgery. Those books you linked to say nothing about that in the summaries. I'd believe all the scientific studies that have been done before I'd believe some theorized sociological view based on inference instead of facts.

[nomdeplume]

Posted: 10/23/06 at 12:54am

When you read of the infections, scars and other problems which can be associated with the surgery, they are pretty serious. Updated On: 10/23/06 at 12:54 AM

[SweetQintheLights]

Posted: 10/23/06 at 12:55am

"Except, nearly ALL studies say that women who have cosmetic surgery have higher rates of depression, even after their surgery.

Proof?

And please don't tell me those what is in those books. Unless you have read them, you don't know. So, instead of assuming what those books say (besides what's in the summary on the website) why don't you go out and read them and maybe them we can have an intelligent conversation.

[nomdeplume]

Posted: 10/23/06 at 12:56am

I wonder if the rates of depression could depend on the type of cosmetic surgery the women have and their reason for having it.