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#51

re: Boob Jobs

Posted: 10/23/06 at 1:09am

Why do you guys care if some women get breast augmentation/reduction for cosmetic reasons? What's it to you?
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#52

re: Boob Jobs

Posted: 10/23/06 at 1:11am

Artistically, I don't find augmented breasts to be an attractive look, so I wonder why they do.

They look kinda grotesque and unnatural to me.

Updated On: 10/23/06 at 01:11 AM

#53

re: Boob Jobs

Posted: 10/23/06 at 1:22am

Why do I have to have proof but you don't?

While I'm reading those sociology books, you can catch up on these medical articles:

EDITORIALS/REVIEWS/LETTERS AND VIEWPOINTS - VIEWPOINTS - Postpartum Depression as a Risk Factor in Unnecessary Cosmetic Surgery.
Source: Plastic and reconstructive surgery. 117, no. 1, (2006): 342 (1 pages)

Depression, anxiety and quality of life among scheduled cosmetic surgery patients: multicentre prospective study
Source: Journal of Cranio-Maxillofacial Surgery 29, no. 3 (2001): 177-180 (4 pages)
Additional Info: Harcourt Health Sciences; 20010601

Are breast implants better than female genital mutilation? autonomy, gender equality and nussbaum's political liberalism
Source: Critical Review of International Social and Political Philosophy 7, no. 3 (2004): 1-33 (33 pages)
Additional Info: Taylor & Francis; 20041001

Framing Women's Health With a Sense-Making Approach: Magazine Coverage of Breast Cancer and Implants
Source: Health Communication 13, no. 2 (2001): 163-185
Additional Info: Lawrence Erlbaum Associates, Inc.; 20010401

Lay Experts and the Politics of Breast Implants
Source: Public Understanding of Science 12, no. 4 (2003): 403-421
Additional Info: Sage Publications; 20031001

Counterfactual Thinking and Quality of Life Among Women with Silicone Breast Implants
Source: Journal of Behavioral Medicine 25, no. 4 (2002): 317-335 (19 pages)
Additional Info: Springer; 20020801

In-Depth: Medicine and Culture: Breast Implants, the Cult of Beauty, and a Culturally Constructed ‘Disease’
Source: Journal of Popular Culture 28, no. 4 (1995): 7-17
Additional Info: Blackwell Publishing; 19950301

Breast Implants as Beauty Ritual: Woman's Sceptre and Prison.
Source: Yale journal of law and feminism. 9, no. 2, (1997): 157

Effects of bilateral breast reduction on anxiety and depression: Results of a prospective randomised trial
Source: Scandinavian Journal of Plastic and Reconstructive Surgery and Hand Surgery 40, no. 1 (2006): 19-23 (5 pages)
Additional Info: Taylor & Francis; 20060101

Self-Perception and Self-Esteem of Patients Seeking Cosmetic Surgery
Source: Aesthetic plastic surgery. 29, no. 3, (2005): 184 (6 pages)
Additional Info: Springer-Verlag

Self-Esteem and Cosmetic Enhancement
Source: Plastic surgical nursing : official journal of the American Society of Plastic and Reconstructive Surgical Nurses. 25, Part 1 (2005): 5-20
Additional Info: Publication Printing
Issue Id: Part 1

Self-Esteem and Cosmetic Surgery: Is There a Relationship Between the Two?
Source: Plastic surgical nursing : official journal of the American Society of Plastic and Reconstructive Surgical Nurses. 23, Part 1 (2003): 21-24
Additional Info: Publication Printing
Issue Id: Part 1

The Psychiatric View of Patients of Aesthetic Surgery: Self-Esteem, Body Image, and Eating Attitude
Source: Aesthetic plastic surgery. 27, no. 5, (2003): 345 (4 pages)
Additional Info: Springer-Verlag

Life Satisfaction, Self-Esteem, and Body Image: A Psychosocial Evaluation of Aesthetic and Reconstructive Surgery Candidates
Source: Aesthetic plastic surgery. 22, no. 6, (1998 ): 412 (8 pages)
Additional Info: Springer-Verlag
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Updated On: 10/23/06 at 01:22 AM

#54

re: Boob Jobs

Posted: 10/23/06 at 8:09am

Lions, tigers, and boobs, oh my. Citations.

I'm well aware that my whole Darwin's theory would be refuted. It was a long, long, stretch that I would care to elaborate my basis of this afternoon.

Well to a certain extent, I understand why you don't you agree that some individuals are more willing to conform than others and be subjected to society's norms and ideals. "Rather, I'm contending that this is an issue where women should not simply give into the demands of society...There are some issues that I don't understand how people can have an indifferent attitude toward, and this is one of them."

Yes, there are medical risks involved and yes there's this whole idea that it's somehow selling your soul over to mass media and society when one under goes some sort of cosmetic procedure. Essentially, if you are aware of what you're doing to your own body, who is to stop you? As for screwing over others and furthering the standard of beauty, it me it feels as it is just an unfortunate result of a level on competition and a values system. I don't know about you, but at the end of the day I do what I want due to what I believe in. But most of the world has a degree of intelligence so that they can deduce and infer things from what they are aware of, and whether the average individual chooses to or not, they are subjected to some second or third party’s influence. An individual's prioritization of what they deem important seems to be the basis of most of beliefs--what is to stop breast size from being an object raised in this playing field?

I’m not trying to leave it at that but what it boils down to is what you adamantly believe at the end of the day—even if it isn’t a rational or healthy notion.

Maybe it’s just me being crazily pro-choice in most decisions. It’s not like everyone is doing it.

I’m still not conceptualizing how this is vastly different than other “lesser forms” of conforming to society’s ideals. Yes, breast implants are not something that can be readily changed, and it isn’t like make up, clothing, or any sort of grooming ritual. But no one is stepping in and forcibly making anyone undergo this procedure. Individuals are stepping up to the plate and doing this to themselves, they are choosing to conform, make a lie a reality if you will. And with outside influencing forces, it’s still is a values system that compels one to do something, and not another.
#55

re: Boob Jobs

Posted: 10/23/06 at 10:39am

"I am NOT speaking from experience, but, I'm sure that there'd be a lot less Hummers and other vehicles bought if men could have penis enhancements."


Fiction, men can have penis enhancements.........A friend in SF worked in a clinic where the doctor did exactly that. The guys has office in LA and SF

I did find it odd that a priest from North Dakota came to have his done

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Updated On: 10/23/06 at 10:39 AM

#56

boob jobs

Posted: 10/23/06 at 10:46am

being a boob connoisseur of many years and varied tastes, i submit that i am not a fan of fake ones.
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#57

boob jobs

Posted: 10/23/06 at 10:48am

By the title of this thread I thought someone wanted my resume.

Carry on.
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#58

boob jobs

Posted: 10/23/06 at 11:47am

LOL@Boobsicles!

It *is* kind of amusing how people get so riled up about what others choose to do to their bodies...I personally think it's completely fine if you want to alter this or that. As long as one goes into it with realistic expectations and is fully aware of the risks, having done sufficient research, then more power!

I personally have had collagen (I hate my nonexistent lips) and Botox in the past (it was a Botox party, and what the hey?)and see no problem with women who want a little extra heft in the over-the-shoulder-boulder-holder. (Because, really, it's tedious to shop for the needs-no-strap-pebble-trap, isn't it?) *plants tongue firmly in cheek*
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#59

boob jobs

Posted: 10/23/06 at 11:55am

If women are armed with the information they need and are aware of the risks, I could care less about what they elect to do with their bodies. Like Marlene and Jaily, I'm "pro-choice" in this arena as well.

While I won't debate their right to do this, what I do question is their taste level! I would think the point of plastic surgery would be to enhance your looks, not to radically alter them. I don't get why women with small frames go so BIG. Do they not realize how obviously fake their breasts look, and is that really what they want to accomplish? And aren't there tear-shaped, more natural looking implants these days? Why would anyone opt for the basketball sized globes? The worst example I've seen are those soft-core Skinemax movies. The t-ts do not move. It's bizarre.
#60

boob jobs

Posted: 10/23/06 at 12:01pm

I am not a fan of implants, tattoos, or body piercing. I'd find it difficult to ba attracted to a woman who thought they were a good idea.
#61

boob jobs

Posted: 10/23/06 at 12:02pm

It's not a question of what I feel others should be allowed to do to their bodies. I don't think people are understanding that - of course, if some woman wants to get a boob job, that's completely her decision and I don't think there should be like, preventive measures taken to stop her. However, on the basis of everything I've outlined in my last ten posts or so, I personally vehemently disagree with both the action and the reasoning behind such an action. And yes, I think every time a woman has a breast job, it's a step backward for a progressive mentality among women everywhere.

I definitely realize my opinion on the matter isn't something that leaves much room for middle ground or something most people will agree with, so for what it's worth, I definitely see the other side of the matter as well. I just... can't agree.

Updated On: 10/23/06 at 12:02 PM

#62

boob jobs

Posted: 10/23/06 at 12:08pm

I understand where you're coming from, siamese. But since I can't possibly know what factors into an individual woman's decision to have the surgery, I feel like I personally can't make a judgement that it's a step backward every time someone has it.

#63

boob jobs

Posted: 10/23/06 at 12:13pm

How many potential reasons could there really be for enhancing one's breast size, though? You're either getting bigger boobs to enhance your self-confidence through them because you will be attracting more male attention and/or to simply attract men. Either way, I don't believe it's a respectable way to attain those goals. Again, I completely realize my mentality kind of ends any real open discussion on my part; I'm willing to admit upfront that it's not really an issue on which I'm willing to compromise.
#64

boob jobs

Posted: 10/23/06 at 12:27pm

It's not a question of what I feel others should be allowed to do to their bodies. I don't think people are understanding that - of course, if some woman wants to get a boob job, that's completely her decision and I don't think there should be like, preventive measures taken to stop her. However, on the basis of everything I've outlined in my last ten posts or so, I personally vehemently disagree with both the action and the reasoning behind such an action. And yes, I think every time a woman has a breast job, it's a step backward for a progressive mentality among women everywhere.

I actually agree with this. While I try not to pass judgement on women who elect to have this surgery, (it's their bodies, after all) it offends me that society has driven women to get it done in greater numbers every year. It used to be that a very flat-chested woman with "barely-A's" might get it done to become a large-B or a C cup, but now, B and even C cups are thinking they are "small breasted" and getting implants to be double D's and more! It's nuts, and I just don't like it. My own personal viewpoint. (From a 32 barely-B, who, for the record, was told to get breast implants by my first manager in Los Angeles. I dumped the manager.)

Case in point: iHeartMyGeek, who said she is "fairly small-chested" and has considered the possibility. That is you in your avatar, right? 'Cause you have significant cleavage, my dear.
#65

boob jobs

Posted: 10/23/06 at 12:29pm

"From a 32 barely-B, who, for the record, was told to get breast implants by my first manager in Los Angeles. I dumped the manager."

Good for you, erika!
#66

boob jobs

Posted: 10/23/06 at 12:31pm

hehe...Thanks, blueroses!
#67

boob jobs

Posted: 10/23/06 at 12:33pm

Yes, good for you, honey!


I happen to think you have absolutely PERFECT bewbies! :-P
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#68

boob jobs

Posted: 10/23/06 at 12:38pm

Yeah, definitely good for you. boob jobs

Honestly, I'm an A-cup and generally fine with my own body. Do I wish I had bigger breasts? Sure, but not enough to the point where I'm going to look like an idiot with a size zero waist and DD boobs.

Updated On: 10/23/06 at 12:38 PM

#69

boob jobs

Posted: 10/23/06 at 1:04pm

if any of you are feeling like you need any reassurance about your breasts, feel free to send me a pic and i will gladly expound upon their finer points.
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#70

boob jobs

Posted: 10/23/06 at 1:08pm

papa, you just had to say "points"... boob jobs
#71

boob jobs

Posted: 10/23/06 at 1:11pm

can't help it, i was into my youth on the ipod today and the silver bullet band was ringing in my head...
she was a black haired beauty with big dark eyes
and points all her own sitting way up high
way up firm and high

and let's all note whose was post #69.
r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.

...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty

pray to st. jude

i'm a sonic reducer

he was the gimmicky sort

fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective

Updated On: 10/23/06 at 01:11 PM

#72

boob jobs

Posted: 10/23/06 at 1:12pm

boob jobs? no. but i am all for hand jobs.
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#73

boob jobs

Posted: 10/23/06 at 1:44pm

Oh, Robbo, you dont need a hand job...plenty of people have an extra pinky.
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#74

boob jobs

Posted: 10/23/06 at 1:51pm

As a small-framed yet naturally busty female, I welcomed the onslaught of silicone and saline in women's chests.

It meant bra designers finally realized that not all DD cups were a size 12 and over 60.

It wasn't until the mid 90s that one could find a decent, pretty support bra with less than four hooks. That said, current bra designs seem to suggest that all women prefer to look as though their breasts are mutated cantalope rinds pasted unnaturally high on the chest, which is what most cosmetic implants look like to me.
#75

boob jobs

Posted: 10/23/06 at 2:03pm

kelz, i am seeing you in a brand new light.
r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.

...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty

pray to st. jude

i'm a sonic reducer

he was the gimmicky sort

fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective

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