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Brad Pitt: he won't be marrying Angelina Jolie until the restrictions on who can marry whom are dropped.

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Chloe
#25re: Brad Pitt: he won't be marrying Angelina Jolie until the restrictions
Posted: 9/8/06 at 7:12pm

I see your point, Rathnait, but I don't think the issues are comparable. Children shouldn't have to wait to be adopted because the adoption laws are unfair, and I would want the kind of principled people who object to those laws to be the ones who *are* adopting, rather than those who don't.

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Rathnait62
#26re: Brad Pitt: he won't be marrying Angelina Jolie until the restrictions
Posted: 9/8/06 at 7:16pm

My point is, how does the state decide that someone who has known those kids for five minutes is eligible to adopt them? But gay couples who have been together 30 years can't get married?

The gays are adults. The kids are too young to have a say - what if Brad and Angie aren't together next month? They're forever tied through those kids. They may break up and she could find the man to marry and stay with forever within a year or less - and those kids will have to deal with joint custody forever, instead of Brad having been their mom's boyfriend from before Zahara would even have much memory. I was concerned about those kids from the minute the adoption went through so quickly and easily. Not only are they not married, they haven't been together very long.

What if she does find that next guy - and they're married for life? Wouldn't it have been great if he could have adopted the kids? I'm just astonished that this was allowed. It's not like she has a history of committing to men.


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Updated On: 9/8/06 at 07:16 PM

Incognito
#27re: Brad Pitt: he won't be marrying Angelina Jolie until the restrictions
Posted: 9/8/06 at 7:16pm

Ahh, I'm up to speed now. This isn't an issue here in the UK, and if the US side of things is being played out here, I've managed to miss it. Although, now this little Bradism has appeared, it probably will, in the magazines anyway.


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BSoBW2
#28re: Brad Pitt: he won't be marrying Angelina Jolie until the restrictions
Posted: 9/8/06 at 7:18pm

Well, it isn't Pitt's fault, Rath.

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#29re: Brad Pitt: he won't be marrying Angelina Jolie until the restrictions
Posted: 9/8/06 at 7:18pm

Rub it in why dont'cha, Incognito! re: Brad Pitt:  he won't be marrying Angelina Jolie until the restrictions


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Rathnait62
#30re: Brad Pitt: he won't be marrying Angelina Jolie until the restrictions
Posted: 9/8/06 at 7:30pm

He DID it, BSo.


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BSoBW2
#31re: Brad Pitt: he won't be marrying Angelina Jolie until the restrictions
Posted: 9/8/06 at 7:36pm

I meant the law.

Maybe it would be better for the kids...who knows?

jimnysf
#32re: Brad Pitt: he won't be marrying Angelina Jolie until the restrictions
Posted: 9/8/06 at 7:36pm

I wouldn't mind it if they decided to adopt me! Hello hot Mommy and Daddy!


"I've lost everything! Luis, Marty, my baby with Chris, Chris himself, James. All I ever wanted was love." --Sheridan Crane "Passions" ------- "Housework is like bad sex. Every time I do it, I swear I'll never do it again til the next time company comes."--"Lulu" from "Can't Stop The Music" ----- "When the right doors didn't open for him, he went through the wrong ones" - "Sweet Bird of Youth" ------------ --------- "Passions" is uncancelled! See NBC.com for more info.

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Marlene
#33re: Brad Pitt: he won't be marrying Angelina Jolie until the restrictions
Posted: 9/8/06 at 7:59pm

"I'm trying to get over the hypocrisy of the fact that an unmarried couple (who'd been together how long when the adoption went through, by the way?) was able to separately adopt two children, and yet they're all up on the We Won't Marry Until Gays Can Marry! bandwagon."

Correct me if I am wrong, but both Maddox and Zahara were adopted by Angelina Jolie alone. It was only recently that they wanted to have Brad officially adopt the kids...but as of now I believe no official press statement has been made regarding whether or not Brad has legally adopted Maddox and Zahara. They just happened to change their last names from "Jolie" to "Jolie-Pitt".

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muscle23ftl
#34re: Brad Pitt: he won't be marrying Angelina Jolie until the restrictions
Posted: 9/8/06 at 8:50pm

Another reason to love Brad!


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Magdalene
#35re: Brad Pitt: he won't be marrying Angelina Jolie until the restrictions
Posted: 9/8/06 at 8:59pm

As soon as the law is changed he'll marry Tom Cruise...


"NOT MY DAUGHTER, YOU BITCH!"

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Magdalene
#36re: Brad Pitt: he won't be marrying Angelina Jolie until the restrictions
Posted: 9/8/06 at 8:59pm

Or Billy Bob Thornton...


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Updated On: 9/8/06 at 08:59 PM

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StageManager2
#37re: Brad Pitt: he won't be marrying Angelina Jolie until the restrictions
Posted: 9/8/06 at 9:00pm

Marelene, I believe the adoption was made legal back in December. I'll get back to you on that...


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erikaamato
#38re: Brad Pitt: he won't be marrying Angelina Jolie until the restrictions
Posted: 9/8/06 at 10:50pm

It's good and all if you want to stand up for marriage rights of others, but how does he explain his brand new stance on this issue since he was already married before! I don't remember him standing up for marriage rights then.

My thoughts exactly...


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#39re: Brad Pitt: he won't be marrying Angelina Jolie until the restrictions
Posted: 9/8/06 at 10:53pm

Like I said, Erika. People change.


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erikaamato
#40re: Brad Pitt: he won't be marrying Angelina Jolie until the restrictions
Posted: 9/8/06 at 10:55pm

StageManager2: Not an issue. The gesture is moot, since he has already participated in the institution of marriage.

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#41re: Brad Pitt: he won't be marrying Angelina Jolie until the restrictions
Posted: 9/8/06 at 10:56pm

Oh, sorry. I thought you guys were putting emphasis on the last sentence.


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erikaamato
#42re: Brad Pitt: he won't be marrying Angelina Jolie until the restrictions
Posted: 9/8/06 at 11:00pm

Perhaps jsrocks was, but for me, the issue is more that this is a completely pointless gesture, since he's already been married. And of course, it's just my opinion. :-P

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Greekmusicalfan
#43re: Brad Pitt: he won't be marrying Angelina Jolie until the restrictions
Posted: 9/9/06 at 6:41am

Well, I don't care about his motives, but any supportive voice to gay rights, especially from high profiled people, is very welcome, in my book. Bravo, Brad !

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jrb_actor
#44re: Brad Pitt: he won't be marrying Angelina Jolie until the restrictions
Posted: 9/9/06 at 8:32am

the point is absolutely not moot. he has obviously come to believe that a stance needs to be made. by this logic of yours, my boycotting walmart for their practices is moot because I used to shop there. bs. if anything, it's more poignant as it shows that brad believes in marriage.

bravo to brad and angelina! and to charlize and stuart and anyone else who is standing up for equality.

on a side note, while the uk is definitely on the right track, they still have a step to go--separate is not equal and there will come a time when gays getting 'civil unions' and straights getting 'marriage' will be an issue.


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hannahshule
#45re: Brad Pitt: he won't be marrying Angelina Jolie until the restrictions
Posted: 9/9/06 at 4:22pm

Call me pessimistic, but the way things are looking, they won't be married for a loooooooong time, unless all the red states go into a coma or something.
Even though the ban was never passed, I predict a while before it's legal for all to marry.


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colleen_lee
#46re: Brad Pitt: he won't be marrying Angelina Jolie until the restrictions
Posted: 9/9/06 at 4:28pm

Well, we can't just let Brad and Angelina continue to live in sin. Better just let those damn homos marry so those poor innocent children aren't damned to the fires of hell.


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TennesseeTwang
#47re: Brad Pitt: he won't be marrying Angelina Jolie until the restrictions
Posted: 9/9/06 at 5:14pm

I'm suspicious of his motives. I mean, nobody is going to change their stance on same-sex marriage because of what Brad and Angelina do. This isn't going to affect legislation.

If he wanted to get across the fact that he supports the right of gay people to marry, then say that. Don't hijack an issue for self-aggrandizement.

It's shameless grandstanding.

jimnysf
#48re: Brad Pitt: he won't be marrying Angelina Jolie until the restrictions
Posted: 9/9/06 at 5:19pm

"It's shameless grandstanding"

I don't agree. He has always been interested in social issues and now that he has Angelina, he is more vocal. He has been involved in helping out in New Orleans. Bravo, Brad!


"I've lost everything! Luis, Marty, my baby with Chris, Chris himself, James. All I ever wanted was love." --Sheridan Crane "Passions" ------- "Housework is like bad sex. Every time I do it, I swear I'll never do it again til the next time company comes."--"Lulu" from "Can't Stop The Music" ----- "When the right doors didn't open for him, he went through the wrong ones" - "Sweet Bird of Youth" ------------ --------- "Passions" is uncancelled! See NBC.com for more info.

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jrb_actor
#49re: Brad Pitt: he won't be marrying Angelina Jolie until the restrictions
Posted: 9/9/06 at 5:49pm

it makes a huge statement and will definitely cause massive amounts of dialogue among those who give a crap in the media and around people's watercoolers. and that's part of the progress. tiny steps, but moving forward. change will come from grassroots education and economics. it will also come with pop culture as silly as that may sound. but look at history and tell me i'm wrong.

but I guess some of you know brad enough to know his motivations. so your cynicism is merited as you and brad are bff and you can speak for him.

and, otherwise, I will never comprehend the level of negativity on this board. some of you wallow in it.



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