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#26

Brian Williams and his memory. And his profession.

People clucking their self-righteous tongues at all this have really been in a state of denial in regards to the self-serving grotesquerie that "the news" has become in the last twenty or so years. It's as true for Anderson Cooper as it is for the Fox News bobbleheads.
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#27

Brian Williams and his memory. And his profession.

"It may have been that he gave in to the craving to tell a good story, to win the crowd over and capture its attention by virtue of his real stock in trade: storytelling. Now, you might object that Brian Williams is a journalist, not a storyteller; surely, he needs his credibility, his trustworthiness, if he is to carry on. A journalist no one believes can no longer be a journalist ...But we, as consumers, are more significantly culpable in the bigger picture. The news shouldn't be entertainment. It shouldn't be fun. We shouldn't be asking Brian Williams or other journalists about their experiences during an invasion or other reporting."

How could I have missed that? That it's all my fault? Of course. I tuned into Letterman hoping for Mark Twain, not Eric Sevareid! So that's what he gave me! Merely what I demand. Making me pull up a chair so he can address me, wet-eyed, brimming with heroic brio about flying through war, or paternalistic fear about flying by Foy. I'm responsible, I created Brian.


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Updated On: 2/8/15 at 04:01 PM

#28

Brian Williams and his memory. And his profession.

I don't think it's a small offense.

But from the way people are carrying on, you'd think this, rather than WMD, was the biggest lie about Iraq, and the one deserving of the most opprobrium.

Welcome to America, where a network anchor's mendacious and irresponsible egotism is more offensive than a presidential administration's mendacious and irresponsible war.

Updated On: 2/8/15 at 04:51 PM

#29

Brian Williams and his memory. And his profession.

Being a big old fruit salad myself I'm generally all for apples and oranges, but those really are two separate things.

Now, a look at which outlets downplayed the government lies and which have locked their jaws around the Williams story might show significant overlap, which would be interesting.
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#30

Brian Williams and his memory. And his profession.

It's crappy and he should probably be fired, sure, but part of me just thinks that the amount of people that actually watch the nightly news are a drop in the bucket. It's not like it's the 50s and choices are slim. It's also not like the NBC Nightly News Broadcast is 30 minutes solid of hard-hitting news. Sure, I guess we should expect better, but I'm kind of with Borstalboy on this.
#33

Brian Williams and his memory. And his profession.

Surely his cameramen and producers knew the truth (Iraq incident, Katrina), and someone would have reported it to the top brass at NBC News. Disgusting that a cover-up ensued. (Someone reported that everyone at NBC knew that he embellished all the time, but that has not been confirmed.)

Wilmington - I believe he was called out by members of the military.

What is revealing is watching the old clips of his tall tales. He is so narcissistic. He has to interject himself into the story.
#35

Brian Williams and his memory. And his profession.

Will the program still be called "Evening News with Brian Williams"? For six months? That's the telling issue here. If that's contractual, then perhaps unavoidable. But six months of a name attached without the face. 6 months is a long time in television. I have two words that might remind us: Ann Curry.


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Updated On: 2/10/15 at 08:33 PM

#36

Brian Williams and his memory. And his profession.

Auggie - agreed. I think he's done. If this has been a 1 week or even 1 month suspension I would have bet on him returning. Unless the ratings tank, I don't think he'll be sitting in that anchor's chair again. I'm guessing some kind of news/entertainment hybrid talk show for him in the future, or perhaps he'll become a sr. correspondent for an obscure outlet the way Dan Rather did.
#37

Brian Williams and his memory. And his profession.

To put some reality on it: six months brings him back in mid-August. May sweeps without Williams? But his name remaining attached? No. I believe HorseTears is correct on all points.
"I'm a comedian, but in my spare time, things bother me." Garry Shandling
#38

Brian Williams and his memory. And his profession.

Wow, that's completely unexpected. I would've just made him do a real apology - not that sorry-not-sorry he did last week - and barred him indefinitely from doing any NBC shows except his own.

And I also don't see him back after six months, as that long a suspension will do more harm than good. But that's NBC for you, never really handling anything right.


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#39

Brian Williams and his memory. And his profession.

"The right honorable gentlemen is indebted to his memory for his jests, and to his imagination for his facts." Richard Brinsley Sheridan

"I'm a comedian, but in my spare time, things bother me." Garry Shandling
#41

Brian Williams and his memory. And his profession.

Six months means find another job.

i had heard it reported that one of the men who actually was in that helicopter exposed the lie.
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#42

Brian Williams and his memory. And his profession.

That Frank Conniff is so insouciant… via Twitter:

NBC News threw Brian Williams under the bus, and now he's claiming that bus came under fire and was hit by an RPG.
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#43

Brian Williams and his memory. And his profession.

There is no bus, though, is there? Williams became a character in NETWORK, Chayevsky nailed this syndrome circa 1977. We're playing catch-up. Not for the first time.
"I'm a comedian, but in my spare time, things bother me." Garry Shandling
#44

Brian Williams and his memory. And his profession.

Oh yeah, Conniff (TV's Frank from MST3K) was just using that as a construct. Not a fan of Bri's fabulism. Although, now that I think about it, maybe Bri was bringing magical realism to the nightly news.
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#45

Brian Williams and his memory. And his profession.

Have any of you lived outside the US? I'm wondering if any other countries make their major anchors such big celebrities? I mean, it's probably true that by their nature, network news desks make anchors enormously famous in the US and that those anchors still have the biggest audiences in news by far and, if successful, generate a ton of ad revenue for their networks, but it is a bit odd how much we revere some of them. I mean, in the UK they call them news readers, not anchors, to start. And I get the impression - perhaps Jon Snow of Channel 4 aside - those BBC, ITV, Sky News news readers aren't really placed upon a pedestal.

Just curious if other countries have this somewhat odd relationship with their major anchors.

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