Bush -- Sight of Mother's Miscarriage Inspired Pro-Life Stance- Page 2

[Roscoe]

Posted: 11/9/10 at 2:39pm

To be fair, I think I can see how that little bit about the jar would be something they'd want to keep to themselves, but, well, why then decide to make it public knowledge?

TMf*ckingI, Bush family.

[Reginald Tresilian]

Posted: 11/9/10 at 2:43pm

I wonder what Barbara thought when she heard him trot this little fantasy out on national TV.

[Roscoe]

Posted: 11/9/10 at 2:52pm

She either nodded sagely, thinking, "That's my boy!"

OR

She thought, "Damn, aborted the wrong one."

[madbrian]

Posted: 11/9/10 at 2:52pm

I find the jar story not credible, but I do know that many people mourn late term miscarriages the same way they mourn the loss of a child, sometimes including burial. I didn't find any indication of how far along Mrs. Bush was when this occured.

But again, since GWB had no problem lying to Congress and the American people in order to wage a war of choice, I believe nothing he says.

[YouWantitWhen????]

Posted: 11/9/10 at 2:54pm

Somehow a trip to Wasilla, Alaska has to be the root cause of all of this.

[Marianne2]

Posted: 11/9/10 at 2:54pm

I think Oprah is supposed to be talking to him today too, with his parents there. If anyone is really really interested.

[Reginald Tresilian]

Posted: 11/9/10 at 2:55pm

I agree about the depth of loss--to the PARENTS, not a sibling--but nothing about the jar story makes sense.

And I think the earlier version of the story--which does make sense--is a pretty good guarantee it never happened.

So . . . did he make it up on the spot? Is this how the story has lodged in his brain over the years?

I really do find it fascinating.

[Reginald Tresilian]

Posted: 11/9/10 at 2:58pm

I just reread the original article. So this is actually in his book? And apparently his mother agreed to let him write about it. Of course, that doesn't mean she saw what he ended up writing. She may have assumed he'd tell the story as it was told in 1999.

Or she may be as crazy as he is.

[JerseyGirl2]

Posted: 11/9/10 at 4:23pm

Well, I am not defending anything, but it used to be that when you had a miscarriage, if you called the doctor, they would ask you to bring in any solid tissue that passed so they could examine it and determine if a DNC needed to be performed. I don't know if that's still standard procedure. I would expect a towel or something would be better than a jar, but it's not like she put it in formaldehyde and kept it on the mantle. It's a bizarre situation that shouldn't be shared, but if she had just had a miscarriage, maybe she wasn't thinking clearly.

That said, the family is nuts. lol

[Reginald Tresilian]

Posted: 11/9/10 at 4:26pm

Interesting, JG2.

It's just SO different from the version of the story 10 years ago.

And as you point out, the jar just seems so unlikely and conjures the image of country fair freak shows, where I once did see such a thing. Maybe W is conflating things--a real miscarriage and a real fetus in a jar in some side show.

[Roscoe]

Posted: 11/9/10 at 4:29pm

I agree up to a point.

The woman had had a miscarriage. That would certainly be an upsetting event, and I can see that she'd be in a something of a state, and that she might want to take the remains to the hospital so that they could be disposed of, or dealt with, in a more appropriate manner. A jar, a towel, whatever, that's not really the issue.

What's weird is that she SHOWED THE REMAINS TO HER SON.

I mean, WTF?

[SNAFU]

Posted: 11/9/10 at 4:33pm

That episode sounds so much like something out of The Other. Must have been George's twin brother Niles who helped put the thing in the jar!

[Reginald Tresilian]

Posted: 11/9/10 at 4:38pm

In the original version of the story, W drove her to the hospital as she was having the miscarriage--not after she'd already had it and pickled the baby.

[SonofRobbieJ]

Posted: 11/9/10 at 4:48pm

I'm sorry...but the real question is:

WHY THE F*CK WOULD THIS MAKE ANYONE BECOME ANTI-ABORTION.

This has nothing to do with abortion. Unless you consider a miscarriage God's abortion. Honestly. This story is beyond bizarre. Why would a jar of raspberry fetus preserves make him more pro-life than, say, an actual baby.

This is a man with the critical thinking skills of a dead lemur.

[SNAFU]

Posted: 11/9/10 at 4:53pm

With apologies to all the dead lemurs out there.

[StockardFan]

Posted: 11/9/10 at 5:47pm

SonofRobbie, the only thing I can think, is that he's saying when he saw the unborn (miscarried) fetus, he saw a baby - not just a fetus.


Never mind. I don't understand what I'm trying to say.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 11/9/10 at 6:04pm

"Bar-ba-ra Bush
Looks at the fetus she keeps in the jar by the door.
Who is it for?
Underprivileged people. It works out well for them."

[iflitifloat]

Posted: 11/9/10 at 9:04pm

Does it say anywhere how far along she was in the pregnancy when she miscarried? I don't think it's odd that she had the fetus in a jar...like someone else pointed out, that's what you were "supposed to do" if you miscarried back in the day. But there is something so manipulative and bull****ty about the whole stinking story and it's impact on deep, sensitive teenaged George.

[PalJoey]

Posted: 11/9/10 at 9:37pm

I have the ashes of Finnegan, my first dog, in a little wooden box with a picture of him on it, but you can't see inside.

I wonder...if I put the ashes in a jar instead, would it make me crazy like it did President Bush?

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 11/9/10 at 10:09pm

By his logic you'd take a stance against puppy mills, which, as a sentient being, you are already against. This is an important difference between you and W.

I like Phyllis's point about this happening in the pre-fetishization of the fetus era. And if that was his come to anti-women's-bodily-freedom moment, shouldn't Bar have said, "This is a baby! A BABY!!!! Some call it just a fetus..."?

It's weird they would be so talky about this, since they never discussed or mourned the death of his actual sibling and playmate Robin, when he was 7 and she was 3.

[uncageg]

Posted: 11/9/10 at 11:15pm

I am still trying to wrap my head around that fact that she showed it to her teenaged son.

I wonder if Letterman is going to "go there" tonight in his monolouge?

[Reginald Tresilian]

Posted: 11/9/10 at 11:29pm

Once again--and I'm just going on instinct here--I'm not convinced anybody showed anybody anything.

[SonofRobbieJ]

Posted: 11/9/10 at 11:33pm

And yet, I do not doubt that George saw a jarful of fetus. No doubt at all.

I've been that coked up before.

[uncageg]

Posted: 11/9/10 at 11:49pm

Reg, I thought the same thing. It is just too out there. But then...who knows?! I did watch the interview and I couldn't take him totally seriously with that constant smirk on his face.

Updated On: 11/10/10 at 11:49 PM

[Reginald Tresilian]

Posted: 11/10/10 at 12:12am

Uncageg, totally! That's actually frequently come between me and any possibility of believing the man.