CCM application now up

Go Apply then ;P

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BT11- good luck with your ccm application/ interview, etc!

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Hmmm, you now have to request an application.

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It works!

There is no way I would go there for musical theatre...

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If it's good training, it's good training...if you're offended by the pamphlets then the school obviously isn't a good choice for you.

if you're not what they want, BIG DEAL...if you don't want to go there or if you aren't right for it (not that i'm saying it's ok to tell some people they need to change) then just don't...but there is no way to deny the fact that it's one of the best theatre schools in the country. i hope you stay far away from theatre if you think that everyone is gonna get away with being whatever size they want. if they feel comfortable with it then that's great and they can be character actors, but for the most part, you HAVE to be thin/in shape to be a leading man or woman on broadway...and especially to be a chorus dancer (and that's where most people start out anyway) please don't be so naive. this is a tough business and whether you like it or not, it IS about size and looks. it's just the way it is, as much as i would like it if that weren't the case...

So only thin people can work. Only pretty people can work.

Boy..I truly feel said for these two young women who have no self esteem or the ability to be who they are.

I'll make sure to tell Marissa and Dan Folgler this the next time I see them.

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Ok, I agree. I can see where some people could take offense to what CCM says, but honestly, it's true. I'm not saying this to dis anyone who's on the bigger side, I personally want to get some weight off before I audition in the fall, but it IS the reality of the business. Hey, I wish it weren't the case too, I'd eat a lot more chocolate and italian food(:P)...but it's the field we're choosing to go in and like anything you do in life there are some sacrifices. Personally I don't think you have to never eat fast food and be an anorexic/bulemic to be successful, just maintain a HEALTHY weight for yourself. Just try and be "in shape" and don't overeat all the time. I'm not directing this at anyone in particular, I just wanted to give my opinion on this. You can complain about how CCM is unfair in saying that, but frankly I just consider them to be saying what is in fact a harsh truth of the business. If 2 people audition for a part that they both fit and have great voices for, but one weighs 200lbs and the other weighs 130, which one will they hire? I wouldn't let what CCM says discourage myself totally from auditioning there unless I felt I'd totally hate the whole program because of that statement. No one can force you to lose weight if you don't want to, but unfortunately, in this field, your chances of success will most likely be way less than those willing to go the extra effort (to get IN SHAPE, not become anorexic...) If you only want to play Tracy, fine, but you don't see Tracy-sized people in other shows doing kicklines or tap dancing up stairs or anything. Unforunately 90% of the time that's the case with theatre. Good luck.

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Updated On: 9/5/05 at 12:53 PM

This is exactly what they say before you audition:
"Make sure your clothes are appropriate both for your personality and for the institution to which you are applying. It may be hard, but take a long, objective look at yourself in a mirror and assess what you see. Decide on your best physical presentation.

If you need to lose weight or gain muscle, begin as soon as possible — but please do it safely.

Visit the dentist, invest in a new hairstyle, pamper your complexion, learn the fundamentals of make-up, get in shape, start working out or jogging. Exercise your mind. Take a dance class or a yoga class or just get some sleep! Eat well and pass on the double whoppers with cheese. Present yourself as a prospective student who will be fun to teach and highly employable after graduation."

Just in case anyone wanted to know. When I auditioned i was about 15 to 20 pounds overweight and I still got accepted and when I went to orientation, not all of the freshmen or upper classmen were like sticks. They want you to be in shape, that's all but it is not like they won't accecpt you if you aren't at peek physical appearance.

Updated On: 9/5/05 at 04:03 PM

but there are "fat" people who are healthy and "skinny" people who are in poor health. you can't (solely) assess someone's health on their weight. so asking someone to lose weight won't necessarily make them "healthier." it's fine to ask perfomers to be healthy, as you said, the stamina required to perform a show 8 times a week is great, but just asking someone to "pass on that double whopper" or whatever that ridiculous quote is, is plain rude and unneccessary. stressing the importance of health can be conveyed in a much less nasty, snobbish way.

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i don't think it's unnecessary to ask someone to pass on a double whopper, because it's common knowledge that that's unhealthy, and if you don't know that then there's something wrong. of course, one every once in a while is ok. i didn't say you had to be skinny to be in shape, i just think it is essential that you are healthy. in most cases, "fat" people are not healthy. of course you can be a little overweight and still be healthy, but even any doctor will tell you that if you are overweight for your height, you will be healthier if you drop a few pounds. the bottom line is, CCM is realistic, and they understand that to start out in this business and maintain a career, you do need to be of a healthy weight and relatively good looking. Mr Tuttle--you used an example from Hairspray, being Marissa playing Tracy...you and i both know very well that Tracy is a character actress's part. if you want to play someone like Link, Raoul, Fiyero, etc...then you're gonna have to be in shape and look pretty good.

I am actually interested in the school and not how many professionals it has produced. Great faculty, facilities, etc. Very impressed when I visited in April.

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Updated On: 9/5/05 at 06:29 PM