Civil Disobedience LGBT Community Meeting - NYC 12/20

[EugLoven]

Civil Disobedience LGBT Community Meeting - NYC 12/20#1

Posted: 12/3/09 at 6:51pm

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
December 3, 2009

Media Contact:
Alan L. Bounville
Activist and Graduate Student
New York University
407-484-6671
[e-mail]



CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE FOR LGBTQI EQUALITY

First Meeting in New York City to Set First Action


Several voices have emerged recently calling for the LGBTQI and supportive community to rise up and peacefully take the fight for their freedoms into their own hands. As we have seen this week alone, win some lose some tactics does not ensure all of us are treated equal under the law. The incrementalist approach to gaining full equality has lagged on long enough.

It is time for consistent, well-planned acts of Civil Disobedience for the whole of our nation to know we, those who believe in equality for all will no longer wait for judges, legislators and executives to dole out what is rightfully ours. And we will no longer accept the notion that anyone has the right to vote on civil liberties.

It is time we let those who want to continue working within the three branches of government to do that - and for the rest of us to join forces and do what every other civil rights fight has done to gain full equality - engage in Civil Disobedience.

The first of what will become a series of meetings until our full equality is achieved will be held on Sunday, December 20 from 6-8 pm. The meeting will take place at the LGBT Community Center at 208 W. 13th Street, New York, NY 10011.

At this meeting we will brainstorm as a group all ideas group members have in regard to civil disobedient actions and again, as a group choose our first action.

For more information or to RSVP contact:

Alan L. Bounville
[e-mail]
Updated On: 12/3/09 at 06:51 PM

[jrb_actor]

re: Civil Disobedience LGBT Community Meeting - NYC 12/20#2

Posted: 12/3/09 at 6:54pm

Good news.

johnraymondbarker.com

[PalJoey]

re: Civil Disobedience LGBT Community Meeting - NYC 12/20#2

Posted: 12/3/09 at 7:17pm

Takes me back to Act-Up days!

[EugLoven]

re: Civil Disobedience LGBT Community Meeting - NYC 12/20#3

Posted: 12/3/09 at 7:25pm

To get the ball rolling, here is a list of 198 types of civil-disobedient actions. Some are passive, some are interesting, some are aggressive. None are violent.

http://www.starhawk.org/activism/198ways.html

[jrb_actor]

re: Civil Disobedience LGBT Community Meeting - NYC 12/20#4

Posted: 12/3/09 at 7:30pm

I think we need a lil Act Up
Right this very minute.

johnraymondbarker.com

[Q]

re: Civil Disobedience LGBT Community Meeting - NYC 12/20#5

Posted: 12/3/09 at 7:57pm

"LGBTQI"

Is Q for queer?
Is I for intersex?
Are people supposed to actually say all that?

[luvtheEmcee]

re: Civil Disobedience LGBT Community Meeting - NYC 12/20#6

Posted: 12/3/09 at 8:09pm

Thumbs up.

A work of art is an invitation to love.

[CapnHook]

re: Civil Disobedience LGBT Community Meeting - NYC 12/20#7

Posted: 12/3/09 at 9:50pm

I think we should hold a national funeral for Separation of Church & State. At each state capital building, we should gather and proceed with a mock memorial service. We should also raise funds and get a police-escorted funeral procession and get as many vehicles as we can. Each vehicle will have "RIP Separation of Church & State" written on it.

"The Spectacle has, indeed, an emotional attraction of its own, but, of all the parts, it is the least artistic, and connected least with the art of poetry. For the power of Tragedy, we may be sure, is felt even apart from representation and actors. Besides, the production of spectacular effects depends more on the art of the stage machinist than on that of the poet."
--Aristotle

[Gobstopper]

re: Civil Disobedience LGBT Community Meeting - NYC 12/20#8

Posted: 12/3/09 at 9:51pm

The "Q" is for "Questioning," I believe. I just learned that the other day, actually.

[CapnHook]

re: Civil Disobedience LGBT Community Meeting - NYC 12/20#9

Posted: 12/3/09 at 9:53pm

Q means Queer

"The Spectacle has, indeed, an emotional attraction of its own, but, of all the parts, it is the least artistic, and connected least with the art of poetry. For the power of Tragedy, we may be sure, is felt even apart from representation and actors. Besides, the production of spectacular effects depends more on the art of the stage machinist than on that of the poet."
--Aristotle

[Jordan Catalano]

re: Civil Disobedience LGBT Community Meeting - NYC 12/20#10

Posted: 12/3/09 at 9:54pm

"36. Performances of plays and music"

Let's do this one!!!

[jrb_actor]

re: Civil Disobedience LGBT Community Meeting - NYC 12/20#11

Posted: 12/3/09 at 9:57pm

It depends on who you ask. Queer (if referring to gender queer) falls under the T. Questioning makes sense, but I don't feel the need to say Q. I? I have no idea. LGBT works for me, but I respect you if you feel like you are another letter in the alphabet.

johnraymondbarker.com

[Gobstopper]

re: Civil Disobedience LGBT Community Meeting - NYC 12/20#12

Posted: 12/3/09 at 9:59pm

I checked. Both "Queer" and "Questioning" are uses for the Q... Having it mean "Queer" seems a little gratuitous though, frankly.

"The letter Q is sometimes added to the end of the acronym LGBT; the Q can refer to either queer, questioning, or questionable."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Questioning_(sexuality_and_gender)

[Jordan Catalano]

re: Civil Disobedience LGBT Community Meeting - NYC 12/20#13

Posted: 12/3/09 at 10:00pm

I always thought it stood for Queens

[jrb_actor]

re: Civil Disobedience LGBT Community Meeting - NYC 12/20#14

Posted: 12/3/09 at 10:01pm

Yeah--maybe even Queer can refer to anyone who plays outside the traditional norm--straight people into S&M? We're all deviants and freaks when our attractions and interests are exposed to a judgmental world.

johnraymondbarker.com

Updated On: 12/3/09 at 10:01 PM

[FindingNamo2]

re: Civil Disobedience LGBT Community Meeting - NYC 12/20#15

Posted: 12/3/09 at 10:22pm

The "I" stands for "I" because there is and "I" in our communIty.

The "Q" stands for "quelle damage." I can't believe you guys didn't know that.

Anyhoo, civil disobedience, YAY! Affinity groups and risking arrest. SO exhilarating. Go for it everybody.

[FindingNamo2]

re: Civil Disobedience LGBT Community Meeting - NYC 12/20#16

Posted: 12/3/09 at 10:27pm

Do NOT listen to my evil twin, you guys. He causes trouble. How much sense does it make to get arrested in order to get married? A divorce, sure, but married?

[CapnHook]

re: Civil Disobedience LGBT Community Meeting - NYC 12/20#17

Posted: 12/3/09 at 10:33pm

I've always thought the Q in LGBTQI to mean Queer, representing those identify as "gay" but are not "homosexual" (either they identify as asexual or don't have relationships). At least that is how it was explained to me...

"The Spectacle has, indeed, an emotional attraction of its own, but, of all the parts, it is the least artistic, and connected least with the art of poetry. For the power of Tragedy, we may be sure, is felt even apart from representation and actors. Besides, the production of spectacular effects depends more on the art of the stage machinist than on that of the poet."
--Aristotle

[Q]

re: Civil Disobedience LGBT Community Meeting - NYC 12/20#18

Posted: 12/3/09 at 10:33pm

Oh, brother.

[EugLoven]

re: Civil Disobedience LGBT Community Meeting - NYC 12/20#19

Posted: 12/3/09 at 10:54pm

I understand knowledge is power... but let the discussion finally rest with the most recent definition:

LGBTTQQIIAA (Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, Transexual, Queer, Questioning, Intersex, Intergender, Asexual, & Allies)

I like to just say we are all under the Gender Queer (or just plain Queer) umbrella.

If you do not know the difference between some of these identities, Wiki them. Or just visit the 2nd floor bathrooms of The Center (in NYC) where everyone is allowed in
Updated On: 12/3/09 at 10:54 PM

[Q]

re: Civil Disobedience LGBT Community Meeting - NYC 12/20#20

Posted: 12/3/09 at 11:17pm

For the record, my 'oh, brother' was in response to the FindingNamo clone.

There can only be one.

[killertofu333]

re: Civil Disobedience LGBT Community Meeting - NYC 12/20#21

Posted: 12/4/09 at 1:10am

Well Lordy be!!! I sure am glad I'm only the first letter of that acronym cuz all that is just a mouth full...that's what she said (I'm sorry I couldn't help myself)

"I have the prettiest mother..."--Rhoda Penmark~~~ The Bad Seed

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

re: Civil Disobedience LGBT Community Meeting - NYC 12/20#22

Posted: 12/4/09 at 10:45am

LGBTTQQIIAA

You have got to be kidding, right?

I still don't understand why and when the L jumped before the G. When I was in college it was GLBT.

[Calvin]

re: Civil Disobedience LGBT Community Meeting - NYC 12/20#23

Posted: 12/4/09 at 10:58am

That's not an acronym (and neither is just LGBT or GLBT for that matter). It's just an initialism. An acronym, by definition, is an an initialism that can be pronounced as a word, like NATO or WYSIWYG. Vocabulary lesson of the day!

And DarkFindingNamo has been a member longer than I have!

[Unknown User]

re: Civil Disobedience LGBT Community Meeting - NYC 12/20#24

Posted: 12/4/09 at 11:45am

Discussing the anagram is a hate crime. HATE CRIMINALS!!!!