Democrats Want Obama to Pick Clinton 60-33- Page 4

[lildogs]

Posted: 5/15/08 at 4:17pm

You REALLY think she wants to be VP?

And if the Dems can't come together and elect a candidate without having his running mate forced on him, McCain SHOULD win.

[javero]

Posted: 5/15/08 at 4:18pm

Politics is about compromise!

[Namaste]

Posted: 5/15/08 at 4:25pm

Yeah, god forbid the voters actually CHOOSE the ticket rather than Washington insiders.

GOD FORBID.

[Namaste]

Posted: 5/15/08 at 4:25pm

A running mate that got almost half of the votes... what a CRIME AGAINST NATURE!!! Updated On: 5/15/08 at 04:25 PM

[PalJoey]

Posted: 5/15/08 at 4:32pm

lmao. i love it when you do that, pj. still drives me nuts when you do it to me, but i have to chuckle.

Do what? Do wha-a-at?

[lildogs]

Posted: 5/15/08 at 4:36pm

I don't think that was meant for all of us to see...does papa have a wide stance pj?

[PalJoey]

Posted: 5/15/08 at 4:55pm

Does the Pope wear Prada?

[Namaste]

Posted: 5/15/08 at 4:58pm

Should the voters have a say in who will be on our ticket in the fall?

[PalJoey]

Posted: 5/15/08 at 4:59pm

Interesting article on the Obama-Clinton subject on RealClearPolitics.com.

snippets:
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May 15, 2008
If Clinton Wants VP, Obama Can't Stop Her
By Bob Beckel

Does Hillary Clinton want to be the Democrats vice presidential candidate? Probably. Could she get on the ticket by dropping out before the last states vote on June 3rd? Definitely not. Does Barack Obama want her on the ticket? Absolutely not. Can he stop her if she wants it? Probably not. Why not? Super delegates are why not.

When the last pledged delegates are totaled on June 3rd, and assuming the current demographic support continues for both candidates (and baring a major development they will), Barack Obama will have around 1690 delegates and Hillary Clinton around 1550. Add in their current super delegate support and Obama will have 1980 total delegates, and Clinton 1825. ...


So Barack Obama is free to pick a running mate? Not so fast. Her losing margin of 150 is only 19% of the super delegates at the convention. Most of the 795 super delegates have been put under enormous pressure by both candidates for months. For those that chose Obama the decision was an especially painful one both personally and politically. ...


Now imagine its June 4th and Clinton calls again. Clinton, "I know Obama has enough votes to win, but I wanted you to know Hillary has decided to run for vice president at the convention. You know there are two roll call votes at the convention: first president then for vice president. I know you are voting for Obama for president. Fine, but I want your commitment to vote for Hillary for vice president."

You imagine being on the floor in Denver. Hillary's delegates, NEARLY HALF THE DELEGATES, are demanding she be on the ticket. These are true believers who have stuck with Clinton through thick and thin. To them, putting Hillary on the ticket is a crusade.

Most Clinton delegates are women, most Democratic voters are women, and they're going to just accept some middle aged white governor that Obama is rumored to want? No way. They are in your face. Hillary supporters from back home are jamming your Blackberry. This and more horror scenes flash through your mind in a nano second.

Then it occurs to you; if the roles were reversed and Obama came close to winning and wanted to be the vice presidential candidate, could you imagine the convention saying no?

Clinton, "If we get your commitment now (we've already got a bunch of Obama super delegates to support her) we don't have to take a vote or fight in Denver. With Hillary's pledged delegates and a hundred or so super delegates we'll be over 2026 before the end of June. Saves Barack the hassle of picking a running mate and we can be united against McCain on day one."

Are you going to tell the former president of the United States no again? Anyway you convince yourself it's a great ticket and will help Obama in those big swing states. "I'm with you Mr. President". Clinton," I knew I could count on you". You want to bet there aren't 20% of the super delegates who would buy this deal? We're talking super delegates here, not profiles in courage.

If Hillary Clinton wants the vice presidential nomination, and her loyal delegates demand it, and the Clinton machine puts its full weight behind it, she will be on the ticket.

Count on it.


If Clinton Wants VP, Obama Can't Stop Her

Updated On: 5/15/08 at 04:59 PM

[jackson992]

Posted: 5/15/08 at 5:05pm

I'll be voting for Clinton. No way am I gonna vote for a foreigner for president lol.

[javero]

Posted: 5/15/08 at 5:10pm

rotflmao @ "We're talking super delegates here, not profiles in courage."

You gotta like Bob Beckel for being a str8 shooter.

[Namaste]

Posted: 5/15/08 at 5:18pm

It'd be the first time in history two women sat behind the Prez during his State of the Union. (Clinton & Pelosi)

*Duh, I know. I just felt like typing it. It felt good on the tip of my fingers. It'd feel better to say a woman was delivering the address, but I'll settle... for now. Updated On: 5/15/08 at 05:18 PM

[Namaste]

Posted: 5/15/08 at 5:29pm

PJ, love, can you change the original thread title to "Democrats WANT..."

The "wants" is driving me nuts (into the ground).

[PalJoey]

Posted: 5/15/08 at 5:46pm

Oops--fixed!

From RealClearPolitics.com:

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The popular vote totals from Real Clear Politics (RCP) for the primaries are:

Total votes cast: 16,680,827

Clinton: 47.7% (HC leads by 29,471 votes)
Obama: 47.6%




Total votes cast, including estimates from the caucus states of IA, ME, WA, and NV: 17,014,911

Obama: 47.7% (BO leads by 80,751)
Clinton: 47.5%

[Namaste]

Posted: 5/15/08 at 9:04pm

Thanks, sweetheart! (I'm not running for President, so it's okay.)

[mejusthavingfun]

Posted: 11/4/08 at 10:12am

And there's more!

[YouWantitWhen????]

Posted: 11/4/08 at 11:01am

WTF are you doing?

[Unknown User]

Posted: 11/4/08 at 11:04am

He should change his screen name to Mejustcausingtrouble.

[YouWantitWhen????]

Posted: 11/4/08 at 11:07am

Indeed.

[PalJoey]

Posted: 11/4/08 at 11:09am

What's with all the hate today?

Let it go, mejust. Let it go.

There's a higher purpose now.

[mejusthavingfun]

Posted: 11/4/08 at 11:30am

"What's with all the hate today? "

This is for all the sh!t I've put up with for a year now.

[StockardFan]

Posted: 11/4/08 at 11:55am

Huh?

[PalJoey]

Posted: 11/4/08 at 12:03pm

Work it out, Girl--ON YOUR OWN.

You're dishonoring Barack but slinging SH*T today.

[romantico]

Posted: 11/4/08 at 12:32pm

I agree with Pal Joey. Childish and mean spirited. You are not preaching Obama's message of unity and change.