Democrats Want Obama to Pick Clinton 60-33 — Page 2

Now that Strickland's damaged goods, it simply must be Hillary or Richardson.

My dream ticket was Obama-Sibelius while I was still affiliated with the Dems but PJ has already pointed out why Sibelious as Veep is a nonstarter.

Too much is at stake for the Dems to allow Obama to ruin their prospects of regaining the White House. He has to take counsel of the will of his (and Hillary's) base. If they want a Obama/Clinton ticket at this time then he has to deliver one or he's toast come Nov. It's just that cut and dry.

On the off chance that he doesn't pick up Hillary, there must be a deal on the table for Hillary to move into one of the following leadership positions (in no particular) with much fanfare:

1. governess of NY
2. Senate Majority Leader
3. Chair of the DNC - bye bye Dean & Brazile and good riddance!

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Updated On: 5/15/08 at 12:00 PM

I think your getting too defensive. I said he is a fool to overlook her as VP. I'm not saying I feel he is a foolish man or candidate.

I have not seen the Obama supporters simmer down. Just yesterday when Edwards supported Obama there was booing at the mention of her name. 50% of the Democratic party was insulted by that. Obama has shown he is popular with Democrats ONLY. Hillary IMO, is more popular with Independents and undecided voters. I want to win in November. I feel the Democrats would rather have Obama as their candidate knowing he can not win in November than to have Hillary as their candidate and have her win in November. Obama vs. McCaine? Need I remind you NO ONE felt Bush would win in 2004. NO ONE.

Obama supporters can not afford to gloat and be so arrogant. As a Hillary supporter, I know we need Obama just as he needs Hillary. They are not referring to them as the DREAM TICKET for nothing.

Having said all that, Obama is a fool if he does not pick Hillary as VP.

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Updated On: 5/15/08 at 12:08 PM

No, you didn't. NOW you just said that...

I also have very little control over how the audience in Michigan reacts to Hillary's name--I would imagine her supporters would react in much the same way--after all, we had voters in WV refuse to shake his hand because they think him a Muslim.

You obviously haven't been keeping up with exit polling if you think Obama only does well with Dems--the facts show otherwise.

I knew Bush would win in 2004--so there goes that theory too.

"I feel the Democrats would rather have Obama as their candidate knowing he can not win in November than to have Hillary as their candidate and have her win in November."

What evidence do you have of this? Other than a feeling?

javero, she can't become ny gov until 2012. at which time she will be actively campaigning for the democratic nomination for president to run against whoever mac's vp is.

senate majority leader? with mac in the white house reaching across party lines to build consensus? that's a set-up for her to be pillioried by the net-roots. she's not that dumb.

chair of the dnc? that's a job she gives out, not one she takes.

bammy can offer her nothing she wants, save for a spectacular melt-down that would hand her the nomination.

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So no 2nd term for McCain, papa?

And romantico...I don't think you're defensive. I understand that you get frustrated, I do too. And we O folks have calmed down ALOT. You might not notice it so much and those at political rallies might act up, but we (here) have turned it down several notches.

Wait, why is Patterson needing to step down?

i don't see it, lil. i think he's kinda doing this as a kamikazi run to try to do some things that he really thinks need doing and which are unpopular. i think he'll be able to build consensus on a lot of issues and get things done that need doing if he is willing to take the heat from the voters so the cowardly congress critters can blame him.

if i'm right, he'll get a lot done and consequently be unpopular enough - on both sides - at the end that he's willing to step aside "for health reasons" and let someone else take over the gop banner in 2012. the trouble is that his veep would be tarred with the same issues, but would be unlikely to step aside so it opens the door for the dems.

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Brazile, as in Donna Brazile?

Isn't she just the head of a committee and a superdelegate? She's not listed on the DNC's website in an authoritative role, so I'm confused why you guys keep bringing her up with Dean's name. (Please DO correct me if I'm wrong.)

Does anyone else remember the 1980 Republican convention when the R's went nuts and tried to get Reagan to take ex-president Ford as his VP? That's what this discussion reminds me of.

Right, so does the voting rights institute mean she can have a stranglehold on the DNC?

he outed his skeletons in his acceptance speech. he has laid his life bare ever since getting into ofice. the scandals that would have sunk him have already been put through the media.

besides, call me a pollyanna, but i don't think that hillary would take the governorship of ny and bail in year two. she's a lot of things, but she knows how that would look.

unlike a senator bailing on his first term to run for president after he stated categorically that he would not do so.

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Why would Hillary want to be governor of New York?

That nasty Donna Brazile! Imagine trying to holding Hillary to what she agreed to! Hilary can't be bound by human law.