Discussion about prop 8 on The View
Discussion about prop 8 on The View
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/8/05
Discussion about prop 8 on The View#1
Posted: 11/7/08 at 11:14am
Barbara just brought up some of the fear tactics that were used in the Yes on 8 campaign, but unfortunately she didn't seem to be aware that the specific points she brought up were lies.
Then Sherri said something about worrying about a preachers being put in jail for preaching against homosexuality if Prop 8 passed. Argh.
re: Discussion about prop 8 on The View#2
Posted: 11/7/08 at 11:18amThank God for Whoopi, the only woman with empathy and logic on this issue.
re: Discussion about prop 8 on The View#2
Posted: 11/7/08 at 11:21amWhoopi made some good points , I also think that Joy is very pro gay marriage.
re: Discussion about prop 8 on The View#3
Posted: 11/7/08 at 11:25amBarbara Walters should be pro-gay marriage. After all, she was engaged to one!
Broadway Legend Joined: 10/18/04
re: Discussion about prop 8 on The View#4
Posted: 11/7/08 at 11:28amWhat did Elisabeth say? I'll never forget when she used to shriek about it being bad for "the children" and equating it with a person being able to marry their toaster or dog.
re: Discussion about prop 8 on The View#5
Posted: 11/7/08 at 11:48amIf Elisabeth would ever like to marry her toaster, I volunteer my bathtub as a venue.
re: Discussion about prop 8 on The View#6
Posted: 11/7/08 at 1:24pm
Sometimes, I wish the ladies wouldn't discuss a topic unless they have more of the facts at hand.
No mention of the Opt Out Law when sex ed was brought up. I was schooled in both California and Texas--both states allowed parents to remove their kid from these discussions.
No mention of the Cali Supreme Court ruling's comments on the issue of religion:
“Finally, affording same-sex couples the opportunity to obtain the designation of marriage will not impinge upon the religious freedom of any religious organization, official, or any other person; no religion will be required to change its religious policies or practices with regard to same-sex couples, and no religious officiant will be required to solemnize a marriage in contravention of his or her religious beliefs.”
And, finally, I'm sick of people thinking that it would be ok to supposedly give us all the same rights as long as it's a different word.
Separate is NOT equal. And Whoopi should have made that clear.
At the very least, she did speak on our behalf and probably made some great points for those who are on the fence. And she did make an allusion to interracial marriage, which I firmly believe is a comparable legal example/precedent for this issue.
Sherri, of course, exemplified the views of the common person who likes to think they have gay friends but doesn't want their gay friends to have equal rights because her fair weather Christianity is more important.
I take back the tears I had for her on Wednesday.
Broadway Legend Joined: 11/3/05
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re: Discussion about prop 8 on The View#8
Posted: 11/7/08 at 2:09pm
"If Elisabeth would ever like to marry her toaster, I volunteer my bathtub as a venue."
BRILLIANT!
re: Discussion about prop 8 on The View#9
Posted: 11/7/08 at 2:17pm
Can I ask you all a question real quick? Elisabeth has a different opinion than you, so you think it would be a good idea to joke about killing her? So if i had a different opinion about gay marriage than you, would it be okay for me to joke about killing you? Would it be ok for me to say something along the lines of "Hey Calvin! If you want to borrow my gun and blow your brains out I would gladly give it to you!!!:)". I dont understanD.
I was all for No to prop 8. But fighting hate with hate?! Really guys, is that how we accomplish things?
re: Discussion about prop 8 on The View#10
Posted: 11/7/08 at 2:23pm
Ummm...they already joke about killing us. And in much harsher terms than a throwaway gag in response to an absurd statement. Look at the comments below this here:
(eta -- and this is tame compared with what I could dig up had I gone to FreeRepublic or worse)
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Updated On: 11/7/08 at 02:23 PM
re: Discussion about prop 8 on The View#12
Posted: 11/7/08 at 2:27pmSo Calvin, WHat you are saying is because they did it we should too? Oh I understand completely, Because we all know that an eye for an eye makes everyone see clearly. Wait that isnt how that quote goes?!
re: Discussion about prop 8 on The View#13
Posted: 11/7/08 at 2:30pm
Are you unable to see the difference between obvious satire and obvious threats?
Do you cringe in horror at the beginning of "Sunset Boulevard" when Joe threatens to bury Betty alive?
re: Discussion about prop 8 on The View#14
Posted: 11/7/08 at 2:38pmCalvin my point is most people CANT! WHY MAKE THINGS WORSE CALVIN?! Why not be the bigger man? People who say "thats so gay" are using a phrase that they know to mean something is stupid, but that doesn't make it right. Why show people that we cant be open to ther peoples opinions when that is exactly why the glbt community is in this situation! Because some people cant consider others as human beings. EVEN JOKING ABOUT KILLING SOMEONE BECAUSE THEY HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS IS WRONG!!!!!!! If i joked about killing a gay because i dont believe gays are 'right' then i would be murdered by millions, but you joke about assisting the death of someone who believes something different than you and people agree. DOUBLE STANDARD. Maybe you and those who agree with you aren't in reality that much different than those who you HATE.
re: Discussion about prop 8 on The View#15
Posted: 11/7/08 at 2:47pm
Very well. I propose we begin this new era by rewriting some stale jokes.
Q: What do you call 1,000 lawyers at the bottom of the ocean?
A: A good start A horrible, senseless tragedy
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/19/08
re: Discussion about prop 8 on The View#16
Posted: 11/7/08 at 2:49pmCalvin, 99% of us know that it was a joke.......LOL!
re: Discussion about prop 8 on The View#17
Posted: 11/7/08 at 2:51pm
I just hope our new friend doesn't stumble into any threads with papa. The horror might be too much to take! 
re: Discussion about prop 8 on The View#18
Posted: 11/7/08 at 2:55pm
I 100% know it was a joke.
Here is a joke for you...Calvin should die because he likes the gays!!! OMG totes funny!
re: Discussion about prop 8 on The View#19
Posted: 11/7/08 at 2:57pmHilarious! I'm sending it in to Leno.
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/19/08
re: Discussion about prop 8 on The View#20
Posted: 11/7/08 at 3:06pmTanner, it was just a joke! Geez!
re: Discussion about prop 8 on The View#21
Posted: 11/7/08 at 3:11pm
"I was all for No to prop 8."
You should be, Mary.
re: Discussion about prop 8 on The View#22
Posted: 11/7/08 at 3:14pmLOLATE!
re: Discussion about prop 8 on The View#23
Posted: 11/7/08 at 3:18pmTanner--is your real name Jake?
Broadway Legend Joined: 11/21/04
re: Discussion about prop 8 on The View#24
Posted: 11/7/08 at 4:59pm
"Sherri, of course, exemplified the views of the common person who likes to think they have gay friends but doesn't want their gay friends to have equal rights because her fair weather Christianity is more important." <--- THANK YOU.
That's exactly why that woman bothers me to no end.
She's an ignorant and poorly wigged hypocrite.
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