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#76

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Posted: 7/13/05 at 10:30pm

I think we are perodoctyls
But I agree that the quality of life continues to detereorate

the issue for me is that so much of what I hear is nonsense
tonight at the market (as I am waiting in line): I got Triscuits
Oh, Wheat Thins?
(Gets out of line)
(Returns)
I got Wheat Thins..
Fat free?
No
(gets out of line again)
This is not a vital issue, folks
OK--maybe the non-fat
#77

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Posted: 7/13/05 at 10:51pm

Picture this...

You're sitting in a cosy restaurant...

The tables are less than 3 feet apart...

You're dining with someone special...

Next to you are two 20-something young women...

One is sitting silently eating her salas...

The other is holding a fork in one hand pushing her salad around on her plate with ther fork. In the other hand she is holding a cell phone up to hear ear, "Mommie...but Mommie...I know Mommie...Oh Mommie..." On and on and on

[This is what happened to me]

I lean over and ask her politely is she would please take her cell phone conversation outside...

She continues for a minute or two more, shuts the phone...

Three minutes or so later her phone rings, and again she start..."Oh Mommie...how is he, Mommie..."

I ask her again, more firmly, to please take her call outside.

Her reply?

"Oh, shut up, you old fat faggot." [None of which is true, by the way, as I am a young, weight-in-proportion-to-height, straight male].

That angered me.

So I stood up and over her as she talked to "Mommie." I proceeded to pour my entire glass of red wine over her head. I stood there and wathced the wine running down her made-up face....

She screamed....

The restaurant grew silent...

I sat down and slammed by empty glass on the table and it shattered....

[Jump to end of story]

The restaurant owner asked her to live without charging her for her meal. I was given a complimentary bottle of wine. The waiters all stopped by to thank me.

Oh yes. The restaurant also installed a permanent sign up outside the place prohibiting cell phone usage.

Yes, I am sometimes slightly embarrassed about my own behavior, but the young woman was friggin rude and I would do it again.
Why should I be trapped during my dinner listening to her one-sided totally pointless conversation?

As I said before, she'll think twice before she uses a cell phone in a restaurant again, or before she calls anyone a "fat, old, faggot" and that anyone happens to be holding a glass of red wine.


Updated On: 7/13/05 at 10:51 PM

#78

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Posted: 7/13/05 at 10:57pm

Emcee, chica, I love you but... I really have to say that talking on your phone in a place where other people are forced to listen is very irritating. It wouldn't kill you to wait until you'd gotten off the elevator. I am sorry he was so rude, though. I would have just twitched in the corner like the nice, bitchy midwesterner that I am.
#81

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Posted: 7/13/05 at 11:34pm

Emcee, you know I think you're a sweetie...

The moral is don't use cell phones in elevators...



P.S. At the last picnic I was drinking white wine...lol

#82

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Posted: 7/13/05 at 11:35pm

I think if someone is so irked by someone else simply talking on her cellphone in his or her presence, that person must have something very uncomfortable way too far up his ass. Honestly, if Emcee's friend had been ON the elevator WITH her, what would the man say? "No, you two can't come on this elevator together. I don't want to hear you talk." They probably would've had the same, or a very similar conversation anyway (which has been pointed out...). What's the difference, and what's the big deal?


I rarely even notice if someone is on his cellphone in my presence because I don't let every little thing become an unnecessary pain in my ass.

That being said...it's a complately different story when someone is on say...and early morning or late night (or any, for that matter) train, and they are not talking, but shouting their conversation. Or every other word is some kind of profanity or unpleasant thing to hear. Then it gets ridiculous. Or if someone is being waited on at a restaurant, or at the cash register of a store.

But if someone is talking like a normal human being on an elevator or any other public place, who cares if someone's on a cellphone...who cares? How many times have you gotten on an elevator when two friends or people who knew each other were carrying on a conversation of their own and everyone else heard? What are you gonna tell them to shut up? I think if you can't deal with the simple conversation of others, you need to get over yourself.
#83

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Posted: 7/13/05 at 11:37pm

I'm still going to hide my phone from you, Jose, regardless of the color of the wine! It's brand-new. re: Emcee + mean, scary New Yorker =
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Updated On: 7/13/05 at 11:37 PM

#86

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Posted: 7/13/05 at 11:40pm

Did you not watch Barney as a child - Elevator voice means no talking!!!!
#87

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Posted: 7/13/05 at 11:40pm

*observes curiously* Well, I didn't believe what Emcee had told me before until just now, when I saw it for myself.
#90

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Posted: 7/13/05 at 11:45pm

Actually, your story raises a very interesting moral question centered on social responsbility.

Is it acceptable social behavior to allow one's personal life to intrude in social situations, e.g., the use of cell phones in public places.

Is is perfectly fine to initiate or receive telephone calls in a public situation when strangers around you are subjected to one's personal conversation, but have no say in whether that conversation should take place?

Should public space be intruded by someone's private conversation, even if the conversation is only about who's going to walk the dog tonight?

Does private desire carry more weight than the public welfare?

Updated On: 7/13/05 at 11:45 PM

#91

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Posted: 7/13/05 at 11:47pm

pft, PRE-Elmo. Grover is my personal favorite.

In addition to what you posed, Jose - how different is it to have a conversation via phone than it is to have a conversation about a private matter with another person who is physicall present? It's still spoken aloud.
A work of art is an invitation to love.
#92

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Posted: 7/13/05 at 11:48pm

Yes, but if you're talking to someone who's there, it's because they're THERE and not because you're too insensitive to wait until you can chat in two minutes, like waiting to call someone. Sorry if that was poorly phrased.
#93

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Posted: 7/13/05 at 11:49pm

Well, my friend was sort of there. I had her on the phone before entering the elevator.
A work of art is an invitation to love.
#94

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Posted: 7/13/05 at 11:52pm

EM - wait for the next elevator.

I had an elevator in the Daley Center drop six feet crammed with lawyers - that was more scary than your middle age man.
#95

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Posted: 7/13/05 at 11:56pm

It was like the guy was lurking in the corner; I didn't know he was going to be there and be angry at me!

That is quite scary.
A work of art is an invitation to love.
#96

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Posted: 7/13/05 at 11:57pm

In my opinion, listening to a one-sided conversation is an invasion of my use of a public space.

I have no problem overhearing a two-sided conversation, ah, well, not unless one of the voices is simply irritating, then it annoys the heck out of me.

The other thing in my comedic-tragic-sad cell-phone-in-restaurant experience...The self-centered and self-absorbed young lade sitting next to me at the restaurant was totaly oblivious of her girlfriend sitting directly opposite her less than 3 feet away. The girlfriend was totally ignored and the other one engaged in her conversation with "Mommie." That is inconsiderate. Had I been seated at that table with the young woman on the phone, I would have gotten up and left the restaurant. Let her call when she actually wants to have dinner with me.

Anyhow....overhearing someone's one-sided conversation is annoying.

People should not talk in elevators. You never know who is listening.



Updated On: 7/14/05 at 11:57 PM

#97

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Posted: 7/14/05 at 7:34am

Emcee being on the phone before she entered the elevator is just like two friends getting on and continuing a conversation, and I don't see anything wrong with that. And I don't understand why a one-sided conversation is an invasion of public space, but a two-sided isn't. What is different about them? I guess I just don't understand. But, again, cell phones don't annoy me like others.
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#98

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Posted: 7/14/05 at 10:30am

I agree, Ashley.

Jose, I don't care how annoyed you were, assaulting the woman with wine was WRONG. You don't know if she had some kind of family crisis at home and NEEDED to be on the phone. Of course, if there was a crisis maybe she shouldn't be out eating, but you don't know what her circumstances were. Would you have thrown wine at her if 'Mommie' had been at the same table?! You actions were completely unjustified. But I guess it made you feel proud to humiliate that poor woman and get thanked on top of it. Whatever. Like I said before, cell phone Nazis REALLY get on my nerves.
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#99

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Posted: 7/14/05 at 7:15pm

Etoile: I have to agree with you. We have gone headlong into a society of people who don't care whether they are in a private place, a public place, theater, restaurant, museum or church...they HAVE to use their cell phone and they MUST take the call now.

I have been trapped on elevators and on trains with these jerks and even on airplanes when the flight attendant told the person to turn off the phone. And they are clueless. There is a boundary that many of us have chosen to forget now that we have cell phones and we talk on them whether it is important or not...just because we CAN.

Sorry...the guy may have been rude in the way he did it...but I would agree with him. And he probably WAS having a bad day, but who needs to listen to mindless chatter all the way down the elevator shaft?

I'm sure the person being yelled at didn't mean to do anything wrong but the right thing to do would have been to turn off the phone and let it go to voicemail, then call the person back when you had some privacy. Of course, in this day of reality TV etc I guess we don't consider privacy a treasure anymore.
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#100

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Posted: 7/14/05 at 11:23pm


The problem is - they DO shout. I've been riding the train between DC and NY for a long time. This trip used to be a good opportunity to rest or read for a few hours. There have always been conversations going on around me but they were kept down at a reasonable level. About the only irritating noise you'd run into was an occasional crying child. Now there are loud conversations going on all around you via telephone. People speak very loudly over the phones in order to make themselves heard by the other party. Unfortunately it means that everybody else around them also must hear them too. AMTRAK has recognized this problem by placing a 'quiet car' at the beginning of each train. Absolutely no phones (or children) are aloud in this car. Unfortunately it is so popular that it fills up quickly. It will only get better when they designate the dining car as the only acceptable place to use phones and make all the other cars phone-free.

And believe me - that irritation is not limited to trains. It goes on all around you and it will never get better until people take responsibility for their own actions and start showing a little consideration for the other people around them.
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Updated On: 7/15/05 at 11:23 PM

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