Gay Couples Adopting Children?- Page 2

[DannyBoy82]

Posted: 5/24/06 at 9:40pm

I'm considering moving a little further away. I live in Alabama, I'm just not sure yet.

[Kringas]

Posted: 5/24/06 at 9:42pm

Depending on what part of the state you're in, I'd imagine there are easier places in this country to raise a child than Alabama.

[jrb_actor]

Posted: 5/24/06 at 9:45pm

Kringas, I didn't see your post until after I posted. I don't disagree with what you say, but ultimately I would just say--tough. Kids always go through a "hate your parents/embarrassed by" phase. And, if my kid ever spoke a hateful, bitter comment to me about my being gay and how hard that was for them, we would have much to discuss. I would hope they would never have to get to that place based on how I taught them.

But I guess my gut response is the same for any situation like this--aside from abuse: how DARE a child be ungreatful for what their parents do for them?

"We all got pains, Effie"

[DannyBoy82]

Posted: 5/24/06 at 9:53pm

"Depending on what part of the state you're in, I'd imagine there are easier places in this country to raise a child than Alabama."

I know, my parents have told me the same thing. I'll really consider moving.

Thanks, jrb. I've never really considered it that way thats a great way too look at it.

[Kringas]

Posted: 5/24/06 at 9:56pm

First off, I must correct you. The line is actually, "Effie, we all got pains." :) And despite all her histrionics, Effie wasn't 100% to blame. And this is coming from a Deena fan.

I'm not arguing with you. I'm simply saying that this is one future bump in the road for which one can be prepared.

I know all kids go through hate your parents phases. I'm not saying it would be justified. I just remember how hard it was to be a gay kid so as a (hypothetical) gay parent, I can empathize to some degree with what the kid is going through.

I think to ask "how DARE a child be ungrateful for what their parents do for them?" is being a little simplistic. I guess I see where you're coming from, but I wouldn't think the child was being ungrateful.

[jrb_actor]

Posted: 5/24/06 at 10:03pm

Oh they are entitled to feel that way. And we can have great discussions, but at the end of the day--they can get over it. We all have baggage and pain and we all can get over it.

And I'm addressing all this in the direct context of whether or not gay parents should have a kid. To bring someone into this world or to give someone who has no parents a life is a blessed thing. Well isn't that better than never having been born or rescued at all? The rest, we'll work through.

Now, other factors in one's life? I can see those as being valid debates. But those are universal.

[Kringas]

Posted: 5/24/06 at 10:05pm

Fair enough.

[Unknown User]

Posted: 5/24/06 at 11:03pm

I recommend you seek the power of the Lord and forsake the homosexual lifestyle. Spare the child the wrath of the Lord.

[Kringas]

Posted: 5/24/06 at 11:04pm

I want my baby to burn in hell with me.

[loudasthehelliwant]

Posted: 5/24/06 at 11:05pm

If the Lord were so loving, He wouldn't take out His wrath on an innocent child who was "sinful" enough to live in a loving home.

Isn't there some way to get rid of this troll?

[Unknown User]

Posted: 5/24/06 at 11:28pm

Stop threadjacking please, stay on topic.

[loudasthehelliwant]

Posted: 5/24/06 at 11:36pm

I love how your unwanted and uncalled for preaching is "on topic", but my criticizing you is "threadjacking".

[brdlwyr]

Posted: 5/24/06 at 11:37pm

Are you ready to bear the burden of parenthood? Also, can you provide a safe and loving home? Raising children is not easy. You must be ready to give up your resources, time and your privacy.

[jlc6314]

Posted: 5/24/06 at 11:38pm

"I recommend you seek the power of the Lord and forsake the homosexual lifestyle. Spare the child the wrath of the Lord."


Is this guy for real?

[Unknown User]

Posted: 5/24/06 at 11:55pm

The power of Jesus is very real.

[PalJoey]

Posted: 5/25/06 at 12:01am

Are you saying that Jesus was a Power Bottom?

[Unknown User]

Posted: 5/25/06 at 12:02am

Jesus is a top.

[brdlwyr]

Posted: 5/25/06 at 12:06am

Jesus is a top.

Charming and mocking!

[EugLoven]

Posted: 5/25/06 at 1:24am

DannyBoy

Raising a child is a beautiful, beautiful thing. The act of raising another human being in a happy, healthy, loving home is the key thing to focus your energy at.

The issue is not the parents. It's the child. Love the child. Raise a child. Bring something beautiful in the world with no better hands steering the way than your own.

The question is not "Who?" but "How?"
How much love? How much care?
How lucky will this child be to have you as a father?

Read this book: Gay Dads by David Strah and Susanna Margolis

It's not filled with success stories.
It's filled with life stories.
The good. The bad. And the ugly of raising a child in a gay family.

Do it. Make a child happy and lucky.

[Elphaba]

Posted: 5/25/06 at 1:38am

"I recommend you seek the power of the Lord and forsake the homosexual lifestyle. Spare the child the wrath of the Lord."

and I reccomend that you take that penis out of your mouth, and stick a bar of soap there instead......oh, and then you can kiss my nice, once muscled, gay ASS.

Updated On: 5/25/06 at 01:38 AM

[alterego]

Posted: 5/25/06 at 1:40am

"were only committed last Saturday" You might want to change that phrasing!

[SweetQintheLights]

Posted: 5/25/06 at 1:40am

This is a really random 1:30 input.

A child could be raised by gay parents, poor parents, abusive parents, nice parents, mean parents, hateful parents, cruel parents, repulsive parents, sick parents, young parents, old parents...etc...

It is not what the parents are, it's how they raise the child. A child could live in what some would think of as an "ideal home" with a mother, father, sister and a brother but...they could have the s*ittiest life. On the other hand, they could live with "2 dads" and have the most precious life.

Of course you should think of how you will handle things when issues come up. Often a woman/mother talks to a girl about her period. If there are 2 fathers, you may want to think about how that issue should be dealt. But, it's just like any other situation, parents should discuss all aspects of raising a child.

[EugLoven]

Posted: 5/25/06 at 2:05am

SweetQintheLights...

I understand the position you're trying to take and I always welcome an ally.

But I can't quite keep from curling my lip when I look at all the adjectives you grouped "gay" with in your opening paragraph -- as if "gay" is just one of the many negative types of parent types out there. Wanna throw rich, affluent, educated, charming, adoring, loving, healthy, in there too?

[SweetQintheLights]

Posted: 5/25/06 at 2:43am

Eug-
I do see where you are coming from...and I do have "nice" in there but I guess I could have added a few more 'positive' adjectives.

I was more pointing to the topic at hand though. Sorry if I offended, it wasn't meant to.

Updated On: 5/25/06 at 02:43 AM

[SueleenGay]

Posted: 5/25/06 at 2:52am

Sorry to thread jack, but does anyone see the irony that Liam just watched Dateline to catch a predator then came to BWW to post and ask people to PM him and E-mail him? Fess up, Leemy, you are with the FIB?