#26
Posted: 6/26/08 at 4:32pm
Why on Earth if you give a crap about this issue would you vote for John McCain? It is nonsensical.
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#27
Posted: 6/26/08 at 4:35pm
He didn't say he was voting for Mccain. He said he wasn't voting for Obama.
....but the world goes 'round
#28
Posted: 6/26/08 at 4:36pm
Well what is the other choice?
#29
Posted: 6/26/08 at 4:38pm
Libertarian candidate Bob Barr provided he's on your state's ballot.
#FactsMatter...your feelings not so much.
#30
Posted: 6/26/08 at 4:39pm
I'm not quite sure why you're not reading posts comrade.
I've said at least twice that as an American, I have the choice to write in someone if I do not feel that the other candidates are qualified.
Which I do not.
I've said at least twice that as an American, I have the choice to write in someone if I do not feel that the other candidates are qualified.
Which I do not.
....but the world goes 'round
#31
Posted: 6/26/08 at 4:39pm
You got me there! Shame that pesky electoral college.
#32
Posted: 6/26/08 at 4:43pm
Taz I get what your saying but that vote then doesn't count. It is like you didn't vote at all.
You exercise that all you want, but it just doesn't matter to the process.
You exercise that all you want, but it just doesn't matter to the process.
#33
Posted: 6/26/08 at 5:13pm
The whole idea of not being able to criticize a candidate when someone thinks they are wrong, because of some mythical party unity thing is BULLSH*T.
Why can't the members of the Democratic Party, tell their candidate that they think he's wrong? I think Obama is wrong on FISA, gay marriage, Health Care and probably dozens of other things. If being a Democrat means that you can't criticize the candidate, even when you think the candidate is wrong, when exactly can you criticize him. NEVER? Forget that. The time to criticize him, is before he's elected not after, if the candidate is unable to answer the criticism or unwilling to listen to his constituents then perhaps he's the wrong candidate.
Why can't the members of the Democratic Party, tell their candidate that they think he's wrong? I think Obama is wrong on FISA, gay marriage, Health Care and probably dozens of other things. If being a Democrat means that you can't criticize the candidate, even when you think the candidate is wrong, when exactly can you criticize him. NEVER? Forget that. The time to criticize him, is before he's elected not after, if the candidate is unable to answer the criticism or unwilling to listen to his constituents then perhaps he's the wrong candidate.
"Just a Guy. Your feelings are touching. I am gladdened by the thought that you will one day wind up 6 feet under as we all do." - MrRoxy ------
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#34
Posted: 6/26/08 at 5:31pm
"when exactly can you criticize him."
You can do it whenever you want. Just don't expect to win elections.
We don't have a real democracy or a decent media.
"mythical party unity "
Paljoey is the "unity" person.
You can do it whenever you want. Just don't expect to win elections.
We don't have a real democracy or a decent media.
"mythical party unity "
Paljoey is the "unity" person.
Updated On: 6/26/08 at 05:31 PM
#35
Posted: 6/26/08 at 5:38pm
"You can do it whenever you want. Just don't expect to win elections."
And maybe, they shouldn't win the election...if the criticism is valid.
And maybe, they shouldn't win the election...if the criticism is valid.
"Just a Guy. Your feelings are touching. I am gladdened by the thought that you will one day wind up 6 feet under as we all do." - MrRoxy ------
"I do not suggest you walk out the door onto a New York street with your vulnerable child part exposed and not protected..." - Jason Bennett
#36
Posted: 6/26/08 at 5:54pm
That'd be great if we had more than two options.
#37
Posted: 6/26/08 at 6:01pm
"That'd be great if we had more than two options."
And as long as everyone continues to vote either Democratic or Republican, that's all we'll ever have. To strengthen other parties, you have to vote for their candidates.
And as long as everyone continues to vote either Democratic or Republican, that's all we'll ever have. To strengthen other parties, you have to vote for their candidates.
"Just a Guy. Your feelings are touching. I am gladdened by the thought that you will one day wind up 6 feet under as we all do." - MrRoxy ------
"I do not suggest you walk out the door onto a New York street with your vulnerable child part exposed and not protected..." - Jason Bennett
#38
Posted: 6/26/08 at 10:12pm
Dodd & Feingold were able to filibuster this to delay it beyond the July 4th holiday. They're trying to have the immunity removed from the bill.
"It does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are 20 gods or no god. It neither picks my pocket, nor breaks my leg."
-- Thomas Jefferson
#39
Posted: 6/26/08 at 10:15pm
Wouldn't it be awesome if Obama helped them?
#40
Posted: 6/26/08 at 11:32pm
It would.
"It does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are 20 gods or no god. It neither picks my pocket, nor breaks my leg."
-- Thomas Jefferson
#41
Posted: 6/26/08 at 11:34pm
Yes. Yes, it would.
Will it happen?
Let's see... does the forecast call for snow in Hell tomorrow?
Will it happen?
Let's see... does the forecast call for snow in Hell tomorrow?
#42
Posted: 6/26/08 at 11:42pm
From his comments about his reluctant support for this bill:
"It does, however, grant retroactive immunity, and I will work in the Senate to remove this provision so that we can seek full accountability for past offenses."
He needs to live up to this.
"It does, however, grant retroactive immunity, and I will work in the Senate to remove this provision so that we can seek full accountability for past offenses."
He needs to live up to this.
"It does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are 20 gods or no god. It neither picks my pocket, nor breaks my leg."
-- Thomas Jefferson
#43
Posted: 6/26/08 at 11:42pm
Or just learn to think before he starts making promises.
#44
Posted: 6/26/08 at 11:50pm
TREASON, PRS!
Treason, I say!
Treason, I say!
#45
Posted: 6/26/08 at 11:57pm
Off to Siberia with PRS!
....but the world goes 'round
#46
Posted: 6/27/08 at 1:01am
And according to that "Americans are Stupid" thread, Siberia is where Australia used to be.
#47
Posted: 6/27/08 at 1:05am
Well everyone knows that Australia has a communist regime.
....but the world goes 'round
#48
Posted: 6/27/08 at 1:06am
And the president of Al-Qaeda is Yasser Arafat.
#49
Posted: 6/27/08 at 1:07am
Wait, whose ass is fat now?
....but the world goes 'round
#50
Posted: 6/27/08 at 1:10am
Some guy name Al with some funny last name and a diaper on his head.
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