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#500Chapter 13 The Secret Riddle
Posted: 3/30/06 at 10:06am

He wouldn't have but as soon as word got out that Dumbledore picked him up it would have been bedlam!

I think he did not go BECAUSE he thought he was special. He had made the decision he talks about at the end of 5- be hands off, don't push him, etc.

You are probably right about the history Caitie, maybe it was just intuition on the part of Dumbledore.


I stand corrected, you are as vapid as they say.

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#501Chapter 13 The Secret Riddle
Posted: 3/30/06 at 10:09am

I can accept that...but do you think his decision not to go because Harry was special could have been a conscious choice as a result of how things turned out with Tom?

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#502Chapter 13 The Secret Riddle
Posted: 3/30/06 at 10:14am

You mean like he somehow blames himself?

I don't think that, but I do think he has learned and changed his thoughts on many things. I don't see it as a direct corelation. I think Dumbledore does not think he created Voldemort, only that he wishes he could have kept him from going down that path.


I stand corrected, you are as vapid as they say.

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#503Chapter 13 The Secret Riddle
Posted: 3/30/06 at 10:28am

Another thought I just had on this is Dumbledore DOES seem to know a lot.

He is one of the few that does not believe Voldemort really is gone, he seems to understand more about what happened that fateful night, and maybe he already knows that Harry has the potential to be one of the most powerful wizards ever. But he does not know if Harry will be more like his parents or Lord Voldemort.

Maybe he wanted someone else to ge Harry so he could find out what kind of person he is from someone else. Something that seems very important in all the books is the character of a person and Dumbledore did not want to meet him and find him to be like Tom Riddle. Dumbledore sees the parrallels in their lives (just the basics at this point) and may be interested in seeing how it works out, but wants to stand back at first.

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#504Chapter 13 The Secret Riddle
Posted: 3/30/06 at 10:33am

That's an interesting theory, but I am not sure he'd send Hagrid if his goal is to feel someone out. Hagrid isn't the best decision maker in the Harry Potter universe.

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#505Chapter 13 The Secret Riddle
Posted: 3/30/06 at 10:39am

That is very true but Dumbledore does trust Hagrid a lot, he wouldn't have just sent anyone.

Oh coursethe answer could just be he was too busy Chapter 13 The Secret Riddle

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#506Chapter 13 The Secret Riddle
Posted: 3/30/06 at 10:42am

He trusts Hagrid to do things like pick up and protect the Philosopher's Stone, pick up and protect Harry, protect this...pick up that... those are things that a simple minded half giant are good for.

Figuring out someone's character and propensity to turn evil, not so much. Chapter 13 The Secret Riddle

Can you tell I don't like Hagrid?

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#507Chapter 13 The Secret Riddle
Posted: 3/30/06 at 10:45am

No not at all! I think he could trust HAgrid on the basics. Like "He is a bratty kid" or "He is a good kid" ect. The very basic things!

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#508Chapter 13 The Secret Riddle
Posted: 3/30/06 at 6:52pm

I haven't formed an opinion on this yet. (So I'm not just neglecting you, Stephen!) My hunch, though, is that there was an ulterior motive in not going to Little Whinging on his own. (Especially if he really was in contact with Petunia all this time - you'd think he'd have MORE reason to meet the Dursleys in person!)

I can't wait until we do the next chapter - I just finished reading it and I'm reminded of how much I like Hermione! Stupid boys. Chapter 13 The Secret Riddle


"It's not always about you!!!" (But if you think I'm referring to you anyway, then I probably am.)

"Good luck returning my ass!" - Wilhemina Slater

"This is my breakfast, lunch and f***ing dinner right here. I'm not even f***in' joking." - Colin Farrell

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#509Chapter 13 The Secret Riddle
Posted: 3/30/06 at 7:14pm

I found my book!

And I will NOT tell you where because everyone will make fun of me to no end. And I am excited about Chapter 14 also (just finished it!)

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#510Chapter 13 The Secret Riddle
Posted: 3/30/06 at 7:24pm

Under the toilet?


"It's not always about you!!!" (But if you think I'm referring to you anyway, then I probably am.)

"Good luck returning my ass!" - Wilhemina Slater

"This is my breakfast, lunch and f***ing dinner right here. I'm not even f***in' joking." - Colin Farrell

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#511Chapter 13 The Secret Riddle
Posted: 3/30/06 at 7:30pm

hahaha no not there Chapter 13 The Secret Riddle

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#512Chapter 13 The Secret Riddle
Posted: 3/30/06 at 7:36pm

On your nightstand where you always keep it?


"It's not always about you!!!" (But if you think I'm referring to you anyway, then I probably am.)

"Good luck returning my ass!" - Wilhemina Slater

"This is my breakfast, lunch and f***ing dinner right here. I'm not even f***in' joking." - Colin Farrell

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#513Chapter 13 The Secret Riddle
Posted: 3/30/06 at 7:37pm

ok since I ma guessing you will keep guessing forever i will admit it.

It turned up being IN my bookcase...where it is supposed to be. I was actually looking for something else, saw it and hit myself, literally

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#514Chapter 13 The Secret Riddle
Posted: 3/30/06 at 7:39pm

*snorts* Yeah, that IS pretty dumb.


"It's not always about you!!!" (But if you think I'm referring to you anyway, then I probably am.)

"Good luck returning my ass!" - Wilhemina Slater

"This is my breakfast, lunch and f***ing dinner right here. I'm not even f***in' joking." - Colin Farrell

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#515Chapter 13 The Secret Riddle
Posted: 3/31/06 at 9:37am

Just keep talking amongst yourselves. I'll get the new chapter up sometime today. Sitting through the Wedding Singer took a lot more energy than I thought it would. Chapter 13 The Secret Riddle

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#516Chapter 13 The Secret Riddle
Posted: 3/31/06 at 10:11am

Yes it is. Why I literally smacked myself when I found it

And no rush at all!

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#517Chapter 13 The Secret Riddle
Posted: 4/2/06 at 7:44pm

*twiddles thumbs* Did two days worth of posts get deleted while I was gone? Chapter 13 The Secret Riddle


"It's not always about you!!!" (But if you think I'm referring to you anyway, then I probably am.)

"Good luck returning my ass!" - Wilhemina Slater

"This is my breakfast, lunch and f***ing dinner right here. I'm not even f***in' joking." - Colin Farrell

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#518Chapter 13 The Secret Riddle
Posted: 4/2/06 at 10:05pm

Patronous, I'm sorry that I didn't answer on Thursday like I'd planned. I left town Thursday morning and thought I'd get on that evening to post my answer, but ended up being too busy. I just got back tonight, and wondered the same thing as Tiff!

Anyway, my answer (which is still just several thoughts):
I wonder if part of why Dumbledore went to pick up Riddle was because a little bit of manipulation would potentially have to be done with the muggles Riddle was living with. Because the Dursleys already knew about magic (even though they denied the existance of it), they would know what Hogwarts was, who Dumbledore was, and it would be OK.

I also wonder if Dumbledore had actually sent a letter to Petunia before sending the letter(s) to Harry. Or maybe in the middle of all of that. It seems like he would have tried reminding her of her sister and brother-in-law and their magical abilities.

Plus, Hagrid probably volunteered to pick up Harry, and any trouble that Dumbledore anticipated was probably trouble with the Dursleys allowing Harry to go which, obviously, Hagrid was able to handle.

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#519Chapter 13 The Secret Riddle
Posted: 4/2/06 at 10:24pm

*Insert excuse about being busy*

The new chapter will be posted tomorrow morning I promise. This time it's actually written and ready to go.

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#520Chapter 13 The Secret Riddle
Posted: 4/2/06 at 10:38pm

As I keep saying... Don't worry about it!!

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#521Chapter 13 The Secret Riddle
Posted: 4/2/06 at 10:40pm

Hey take your time! You have things to do and I doubt any of us mind

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#522Chapter 13 The Secret Riddle
Posted: 4/2/06 at 11:28pm

I'm just giving Sara a hard time (without being demoted from teacher's pet). Chapter 13 The Secret Riddle


"It's not always about you!!!" (But if you think I'm referring to you anyway, then I probably am.)

"Good luck returning my ass!" - Wilhemina Slater

"This is my breakfast, lunch and f***ing dinner right here. I'm not even f***in' joking." - Colin Farrell

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#523Chapter 14 Felix Felicis
Posted: 4/3/06 at 8:40am

Chapter 14 Felix Felicis

Ron and Hermione argue about the Slug Club, while Harry muses on the possibility of his two best friends dating. Ron’s nerves escalate as the Quidditch match against Slytherin nears, causing problems at practice. After walking in on Ginny and Dean kissing Ron argues with her and Harry is left worrying about his feelings of jealousy. At breakfast the morning of the Quidditch match Hermione accuses Harry of putting something in Ron’s drink. The match goes very well and Gryffindor wins. After the match Hermione confronts Harry and Ron accusing Harry of giving Ron
his Felix Felicis to influence the outcome of the match. Harry reveals that he faked it to give Ron a boost of confidence. Ron and Hermione argue again about her lack of confidence in him. Back in the common room, Hermione is upset to see Ron kissing Lavender and storms out. Harry goes to talk to her, but they are interrupted by Ron and Lavender. Hermione sets a flock of birds she conjured on Ron and runs out.

*Discussion Questions*

What are the moral implications of the actions of each of the trio, Harry fooling Ron, Hermione not threatening to turn them in until after the match, and Ron "using" the Felix Felicis?

Hermione’s actions at the end of the chapter, causing the birds to attack Ron, have been very controversial. What do you think?

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#524Chapter 14 Felix Felicis
Posted: 4/3/06 at 8:49am

What are the moral implications of the actions of each of the trio, Harry fooling Ron, Hermione not threatening to turn them in until after the match, and Ron "using" the Felix Felicis?

I will get back to this one after work...I can't decide.

Hermione’s actions at the end of the chapter, causing the birds to attack Ron, have been very controversial. What do you think?

You go girl! I mean yes, it probably wasn't the right thing to do but Ron is being a jerk. He KNOWS HErmione likes him and he likes her too, he is just being a jerk because she said she thought that Ron couldn't be amazing at Quidditch on his own. I think she just did what any intelligent female would do if they could in that situation


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