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Heath Ledger: anyone see today's Times?

Actually, I think it's the Sunday Times, which ends up at my house on Saturday, for whatever reason.

Anyway, there are two full-page ads next to each other in the Arts and Leisure section: one for Brokeback Mountain, and the other for that movie Casanova.

I just sort of shook my head, looked at them and went "well, those are.... different." Couldn't be more different, maybe. Casanova looks like it's something right back in Mr. Ledger's kind-of-boring romantic comedy/gallant heroic guy niche. He needs to get out of that.

Anyway, I thought the pairing quite odd, a little awkward, and slightly jarring (suffice it to say the guy is obviously versatile, but still -- I wonder if this other movie will be of any consequence?) but I also think that Mr. Ledger is worthy of discussion. And I'm bored.

Thank you. Heath Ledger: anyone see today's Times?

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Updated On: 12/24/05 at 11:04 PM

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I was like "what is this?" but apparently so!

A Knight's Tale is one of my guiltiest pleasures. I have the poster in my bedroom; that, my friends, is when I fell for him. He's so freakin' pretty.
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Casanova actually got quite a good review in Friday's Times!
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The original movie of Casanova was a Fellini film starring Donald Sutherland in the role. A long time ago. It was mesmerizing as are all Fellini films. To me, Fellini is the ultimate director. I just can't imagine Hollywood capturing the tone of the original version. I think I'll pass on this one, not being a Heath Ledger fan either. I'd like to hear a review from someone who's seen both.
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I suspect CASANOVA was his publicist's doing, to prove that Heath is still a "real man." Frankly, if the movie looks as cheesy as its trailer, I'd reckon that it'll actually hold back his career, considering the serious acclaim he's been getting with BROKEBACK.

The trailer for CASANOVA was shown right before BROKEBACK, which elicited some laughs from the audience. It's like seeing a trailer with Judi Dench in CHRONICLES OF RIDDICK right before a screening of IRIS.
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It's because of things *like* Casanova that I never thought him much of an actor, but rather a very good-looking few-trick pony. Until Brokeback Mountain.

Maybe the acclaim he's getting for Brokeback will be enough to overshadow the cheesiness of Casanova, if it's really that cheesy.
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It's because of things *like* Casanova that I never thought him much of an actor, but rather a very good-looking few-trick pony. Until Brokeback Mountain.

Exactly -- he's shooting himself in the foot if he's allowing his (or his publicist's) latent homophobia to chase him back into vacuous -- and oddly anachronistic -- romantic comedies like A KNIGHT'S TALE and CASANOVA.

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Updated On: 12/25/05 at 12:23 AM

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I suppose that in order to detect possible motives or whether this is some sort of attempt to go hide back in an acting comfort zone, it depends on which movie was made first. Or which part was accepted first.

Of course, now I think he's very talented, and I hope he continues to stretch his abilities.
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"Casanova" doesn't look that cheesy to me. And it hardly proves homophobia if his publicity department is building on his "Brokeback" acclaim to sell his next product. That's just marketing.

It seems to me that they're trying to position "Casanova" as a pedigreed, "literary" romantic comedy in the "Shakespeare in Love" slot (the review quoted in the ad compared the two movies). Maybe they're even hoping for Oscar consideration along those lines. Has anyone actually seen the thing yet?
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I did see the TV spot that compared it to Shakespeare in Love. Kind of bold, since it just... doesn't look that good.
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You're right, I'm getting ahead of myself: for all I know, CASANOVA could be the next CITIZEN KANE. And I admit I did enjoy just seeing Venice up on the big screen.

It was just too funny to walk into BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN and see a trailer with Heath Ledger playing the ultimate womanizer, as if to say, "Don't worry, the leading man of the movie you're about to see is actually heterosexual."
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I saw Casanova a couple of weeks ago and I enjoyed it more than I expected. I was sick, too, so I actually thought I'd leave early, but I didn't since I was enjoying it for the most part (but did skip the Q&A with Lasse Hallstrom).
I haven't seen any trailers or commercials, but I find it to be a bit sillier than Shakespeare in Love. Actually, near the end it descended into such a farce, which was a bit over the top for me, even taking the rest of it into consideration.
I did love the look of it and the classical music they used. I thought Heath Ledger was enjoyable in the role, but it's not supposed to be a historical record of Casanova, just provide some elements of his life and the time in Venice.

When Heath was at the Q&A for my Brokeback Mtn screening, someone asked him about the diversity in going from Brokeback to Casanova. He basically said it he needed something less intense after doing Brokeback and didn't want to pass up the chance to spend 4-5 months in Venice, which he thought would be fun and interesting. I'd guess he got paid more for this, too.

Updated On: 12/25/05 at 12:10 PM

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I saw the ads and thought, "this man is having a helluva year." Good for him.

I can recall the year Diane Keaton won the Oscar for ANNIE HALL. She also had LOOKING FOR MISTER GOODBAR in the theaters, a flawed film in which she took many risks. Before anyone beats me up, I believe BROKEBACK is more likely the Ledger ANNIE HALL -- the groundbreaking, all-of-a-piece performance that will be remembered for decades. But hell, he didn't have any idea when both movies would be marketed.

Off topic, but not: Oscar time--So, is it Heath of Phillip Seymour? I'm putting my money on Heath, after feeling the opposite all autumn. I just think BROKEBACK, and his performance, more important ultimately.
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I'd been saying that Philip Seymour Hoffman was a lock since I saw Capote and even after I saw Brokeback, but the more I think about it, the more I think they may give it to Heath since it was such a phenomenal, out-of-left field turn for him and would want to reward him.
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" suffice it to say the guy is obviously versatile "

Oh em, if you only knew the thoughts you just put into the minds of most guys on this forum... LOL re: Heath Ledger: anyone see today's Times?
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I totally noticed this and chuckled. I think Mr. Ledger also got another boost from the Times when there was a small little blurb "announcing" that his time has come in breaking out into better roles...
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GMF, I knew *exactly* what I was doing. I typed it, and went to delete it upon realizing the implication of what I had just written, and then I decided I'd keep it. re: Heath Ledger: anyone see today's Times?

Yay for Heath. re: Heath Ledger: anyone see today's Times?
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#22

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Like somebody already said Heath did Casanova after BBM b/c he wanted something that was not emotionally draining. I think the fact that Heath is not a major star is b/c he stayed away from the hunky-leading-man roles (he only really did two- Ten Things I Hate About You and A Knight's Tale) I'm not saying this was a bad idea he did some really great stuff (of course no one noticed until now) but I wouldn't say he's done a ton of movies like Casanova. :)
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When it comes to BROKEBACK, to quote from Barbra and Donna, or Donna and Barbra, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. :)

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