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#1

I've Made Up My Mind

Should the unthinkable happen and Bush gets reelected...

*shudder*

...I'll move to Spain and live there for the next four years, get married, and perhaps return with the peace of mind knowing he won't be allowed to run again.

Either way, I'm still getting married in Spain.
"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian
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If you hate America that much, I think you should move to Spain anyway. Good luck to you.
If anyone ever tells you that you put too much Parmesan cheese on your pasta, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.
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Please point out where MisterMatt said he hated America in his post?
#4

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Good for you.
You gonna make good on that, or are you just talking shat like Alec Baldwin was four years ago?

Here's one that will make you shudder more.

Under the current provisons of the 22nd and 25th Amendments the following could happen...

1) GW Bush gets re-elected in 2004 and starts his second term on January 21, 2005

2) January 22nd, 2007: Something happens ans GW Bush ceases being President, Dick Cheney becomes President.

3) 2008: Dick Cheney is re-elected.

4) 2012: Since Dick Cheney only served HALF (or less) of Bush's term he can run for re-election again.

That's TEN, count'em 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10 Years of President Dick Cheney.


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I hate people who make brash conclusions for the purpose of creating high-school drama on a message board........should I go to Spain also???
"High time we made a stand and shook up the views of the common man" - Tears for Fears
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MJR, I belive your comment is directed towards GOtham, correct?

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Specifically, but not solely.....
"High time we made a stand and shook up the views of the common man" - Tears for Fears
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I just LOVE that line! It's such a good comeback!!

Guess what...someone can hate America and stay. That's the best part of it!

Not that Matt said he hates America...his words actually imply that he loves America a great deal and would not want to see it ruined any more than this administration has already done.


"I'm so looking forward to a time when all the Reagan Democrats are dead."
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So anyone who hates Bush hates America? Sounds eerily like McCarthyism. With attitudes like that, democracy will cease to exist in the US. Since democracy and the right to vote is the foundation of American government, it sounds like those who believe that to hate Bush is to hate America and should leave is more un-American than hating Bush.
"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian
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Here's another one for ya...

Many people have said that Bush was not elected four years ago.

So by that rationale, he can be elected next month and elected again four years from now! yeeeeee haw!

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Let's analyze the statement.

"Should the unthinkable happen and Bush gets reelected..." means "If the majority of the population of the US makes a decision that I don't like..."

"I'll move to Spain and live there..." A country that allowed terrorists to sway their vote

"and perhaps return with the peace of mind knowing he won't be allowed to run again." Is America a place you only go to when things are going your way?
If anyone ever tells you that you put too much Parmesan cheese on your pasta, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.
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Rodney... go take your meds.
There is nothing like returning to a place that remains unchanged to find the ways in which you yourself have altered. - Nelson Mandela
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I for one did NOT criticize you for your opening statement on this thread.

I just pointed out that there are a lot of people who said the same thing four years ago (Alec Baldwin) and still have not left.

Are you sure you want to go to Spain, though? I mean they let the terrorists control their elections. Seems like The Netherlands would be a better choice, but it's up to you.
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RodneyK - If Bush was not elected four years ago, then he would not be in office, so that is an absurd notion.

As for Cheney being President....well....let's take this one nightmare at a time.

Oh yeah, these last four years were just GREAT! If Bush gets reelected, hopefully he'll find a way to finish the job and piss off the rest of the world. We just don't have enough enemies. I'm sure those terrorists are really scared now. I'm sure they won't try anything as long as Bush is in office.

Right...
"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian
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If in Spain the terrorists were able to "sway the vote," then what the hell does the Bush regime think the terrorists are doing to OURS? These people have used fear of terrorism to "sway" ours since 9/12/01.

In Spain, a majority of the country went to the polls and took the action most of them considered appropriate to remain safe.

We are now being told by Cheney that after 9/11 the ONLY WAY to remain safe is to go to the polls and elect Bush.

Fear affects different people in different ways.
"I'm a comedian, but in my spare time, things bother me." Garry Shandling

Updated On: 10/12/04 at 11:27 AM

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"If Bush was not elected four years ago, then he would not be in office, so that is an absurd notion."

Hey, I didn't say it. It's all the Kerryheads out there saying Bush was not elected four years ago.

I was merely turning THAT absurd notion back on them.

CurtainUp, I left my meds at your Mom's house last night (that's ajoke don't get mad)

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Did you really just type an 'I did your mom' joke?

Last time I heard one was in 1989...freshman year of high school.

This guy Ken said, 'Hey Rob, I did your mom last night.'

I turned around and said, 'My mom's dead.'

That shut him up.

Fortunately, my mother is still here. Never let it be said that I'm a nice person!
"I'm so looking forward to a time when all the Reagan Democrats are dead."
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Gothampc - If Kerry gets elected, that would be the majority of the population of the US making a decision you wouldn't like, right? As a matter of fact, the Spanish polls showed Zapatero as the likely winner before the bombings occurred in Spain. Once again, you are jumping to conclusions in order to favor your view a la Michael Moore.

"Is America a place you only go to when things are going your way?"

Considering I've lived here my entire life, then that would imply my life has been nothing but a parade of pleasure from the day I was born. As an American homosexual who came out as a teen in Texas in the 80s, that scenario is an impossibility.

Your analysis is obtusely innaccurate, but it was a good try.

Well, actually it wasn't. It was pretty bad.
"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian
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Rodney... my mother past away 4 years ago next Wednesday. And I can assure you, you're not going where she went!
There is nothing like returning to a place that remains unchanged to find the ways in which you yourself have altered. - Nelson Mandela

Updated On: 10/12/04 at 11:36 AM

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robbiej - I will love you forever.
Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson
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Absolving one's self of the moniker 'nice' is VERY freeing. Try it!
"I'm so looking forward to a time when all the Reagan Democrats are dead."
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Like I said it was a JOKE.

Nobody can take a joke anymore in this county.

CurtainUp told me to take my meds, which was a joke and I took it as such. So I made a joke back. Now if he(she?) had retorted with a joke about my mother, I would've chuckled and continued the verbal sparring.

I think I' start a new thread on this topic.
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So anyway....

If people flock to this country to be "free" and we take pride in that, what is wrong with leaving the country that does not provide equal rights for gays for one that does?

And if someone is truly unhappy where they are living and have the opportunity to live somewhere that could possibly make them happy, why is that a bad thing?
"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian
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Wanna hear a good joke? George W. Bush.

HA!
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I'm unfortunately too much of a lazy, spoiled American to think of leaving this country. However, I have left locales that I could no longer tolerate - like leaving DC once Reagan took over (and that was difficult, as I truly LOVED that city.) At the very least, I think it's plausable for many to consider moving somewhere else in this country that more succinctly meets their needs. While I couldn't really envision living in California until I moved here, I seriously will need inducement to leave as it affords my partner and I the closest semblance of reality that we can find here in the states.

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