Is New York City Only for the Successful?
Posted: 8/9/13 at 11:30pm
Where has the NY Times been the last several years? When you have an Olive Garden in Times Square instead of a Mama Leone's, when all art is dominated by the privileged children of famous people and doesn't give way to original voices, and when your shopping choices offer nothing that you wouldn't be able to find in any modest sized mid-western town, then you know the city's character has changed.
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Actually it's a biblical name. She was one of the daughters of Job.
Posted: 8/10/13 at 12:45am
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Posted: 8/10/13 at 1:33am
Not anymore. It's now a park.
"Yeah, but Staten Island."
Better than Detroit.
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I also want to say something nice about Staten Island: they have some of the best bagels and Italian pork stores you'll find anywhere.
Posted: 8/10/13 at 2:41pm
Their fascination with Brooklyn continues to be one of the funniest running gags in a major newspaper.
Posted: 8/10/13 at 2:55pm
Posted: 8/10/13 at 3:19pm
The NYTimes ran an article saying you need to earn 100k annually to live comfortably in the city, if I recall- which is ridiculous but par for the course for the NYTimes.
Posted: 8/10/13 at 5:28pm
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Posted: 8/10/13 at 7:44pm
Sure many are making it work under other circumstances, but truth be told if you are single and making 45k in the city there is no way in hell you are living comfortably in a one bedroom apartment BY YOURSELF and paying rent, utilities, food, etc. There's just no way.
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Posted: 8/11/13 at 1:21am
My first apartment that I loved did not have a separate kitchen, I shared a bathroom with my roommate and we lived in a 1 bedroom in Manhattan and each had our own room. We made it work and I paid well under this "$3000 average."
The Times seems to think everyone needs to live in an apartment by themselves with their own bedroom on the Upper East Side to be comfortable.
Posted: 8/11/13 at 10:44am
Precisely. However, there is a very comfortable world outside of this that is graspable for many--it just doesn't get much coverage. My apartment in Astoria, where I moved when I came back to the city in 2007 and lived until last year, was a 2-bedroom in a triplex with a separate entrance, two large bedrooms, a bathroom, a large kitchen with separate dining room, and a living room. My rent was $1600/month, which I shared with a roommate. Heat and water were included, we paid electric and cable only. My average rent was $850-900 a month. I would have stayed in the apartment forever, but I moved out to live with my fiance.
The apartment was much nicer and larger than most friends who lived in Manhattan or parts of Brooklyn. A friend recently moved into a four-bedroom duplex in Brooklyn for $3000/month. Good apartments for all budgets are still very much out there, most people just don't know where to look.
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Posted: 8/11/13 at 10:58am
What you described below for me would be for me what I already explained in my previous post as: "making it work under other circumstances"
Carlos - and that's where many differ, your definition of comfort seems to be what the Times defines as comfort. Many others, including myself, have a far lower threshold for comfort.
My first apartment that I loved did not have a separate kitchen, I shared a bathroom with my roommate and we lived in a 1 bedroom in Manhattan and each had our own room. We made it work and I paid well under this "$3000 average."
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Posted: 8/11/13 at 11:02am
...and that's where you missed THE WHOLE POINT. The point is most people can't afford their own apartment on the Upper East Side because they would have to be making upwards of six figures to do so. That's why many like you have to resort to subletting, seeking out a roommate, sharing a bathroom, etc.
Not that there is anything wrong with that...but it's the reality.
Updated On: 8/11/13 at 11:02 AM
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