Is it copyright infringement?
Brian07663NJ
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/21/06
#1Is it copyright infringement?
Posted: 9/25/13 at 9:06am
Is it copyright infringement to read a children's book on television to millions of people?
Last night Texas Senator Ted Cruz read the Dr Seuss book "Green Eggs and Ham" to his children on television as part of his filibuster (although not being classified technically as a filibuster).
Maybe it depends on the political view of the copyright holder?
#2Is it copyright infringement?
Posted: 9/25/13 at 9:42amCopyright infringement includes the right to "perform the copyrighted work." We see lots of copyrighted work being performed, so I'm guessing that permission is granted.
#2Is it copyright infringement?
Posted: 9/25/13 at 9:49amDr. Seuss's camp can be very borderline antagonistic about copyright infringement. Almost as bad as Disney.
#3Is it copyright infringement?
Posted: 9/25/13 at 10:19amThe best part about this is that Green Eggs and Ham is about a very stubborn man who vehemently, loudly and publicly resists something until at the very end he tries it and discovers that he likes it.
#4Is it copyright infringement?
Posted: 9/25/13 at 10:25amI'm impressed. I thought it would have been above his reading level.
Brian07663NJ
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/21/06
#5Is it copyright infringement?
Posted: 9/25/13 at 10:43am
jnb...obviously the moral of the story was not understood by Mr Cruz.
Maybe he should try Obamacare cause he might like it? HA
Too bad ALL politicians weren't ON the health plans that all Americans have to chose from instead of the Cadillac plans they are handed.
#6Is it copyright infringement?
Posted: 9/25/13 at 10:43amI can't imagine he obtained permission from the copyright holder, so yes, his public performance would be an infringement. At least, I can't see why it wouldn't be.
#7Is it copyright infringement?
Posted: 9/25/13 at 10:46amWell then wouldn't any librarian reading this book to a group of kids at the library be copyright infringement?
#8Is it copyright infringement?
Posted: 9/25/13 at 10:57am
I do know that libraries can get in trouble for printing Cat in the Hat coloring sheets without the copyright acknowledgement on them.
I think librarians reading the books and maybe even this senator's performance could fall under Fair Use.
Updated On: 9/25/13 at 10:57 AM
#9Is it copyright infringement?
Posted: 9/25/13 at 11:04am
Photocopying the work is definitely illegal. Just like photocopying sheet music for a choir to perform is also illegal. And yes, they have to obtain rights.
As for public library readings or book club readings (or just reading to a group of kids in your home)? I'm really not sure. I guess the issue is the definition of "public performance." (Paid? Unpaid? Professional? Amateur? Location?) I've never (ever) heard of anyone pressing charges for a book reading, but that doesn't mean it isn't protected under the law.
As for the "on television" part, they are protected because they're journalists (and I use that term loosely). However, I'm pretty sure, even for journalistic coverage, you are not allowed to print or show the entire thing. Just a segment of it before it would qualify as a copyright violation.
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#10Is it copyright infringement?
Posted: 9/25/13 at 11:04amJordan, the librarian would probably get in trouble if the reading was broadcast.
#11Is it copyright infringement?
Posted: 9/25/13 at 11:07am
He should stick to public domain works.
I would love it if the Seuss estate pressed charges. LOL
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#12Is it copyright infringement?
Posted: 9/25/13 at 11:19amHe could legally perform an excerpt but not the the entire work.
#13Is it copyright infringement?
Posted: 9/25/13 at 11:21am
Well he was just reading anything he could find. At one point he actually read the Apple license agreement (you know, that long thing we all just click that we've read even though we haven't).
Which begs the question: why was there a copy of Green Eggs and Ham in the Senate?
Liza's Headband
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/28/13
#14Is it copyright infringement?
Posted: 9/25/13 at 11:23am
According to the senator, it is one of the bedtime stories he read to his kids. At 8:00pm, he stopped what he was doing and transitioned to reading two bedtime stories because his children were watching. So he clearly had that prepared.
He's still going, by the way. I could never imagine standing in the same place for 18+ hours.
#15Is it copyright infringement?
Posted: 9/25/13 at 11:35amIf you hated the idea of people having health care enough, you would.
wonkit
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/30/08
#16Is it copyright infringement?
Posted: 9/25/13 at 5:14pmAs someone who was just notified that the previously stable cost of my prescription drug coverage is going up 8% as of January 1, I suggest you taste the Obamacare soup before you comment on its flavor.
Liza's Headband
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/28/13
#17Is it copyright infringement?
Posted: 9/25/13 at 5:28pm
As the former director of the HHS exchange stated in an interview recently, "There will always be losers and winners with a new policy like this. But I still support it." Yes that is typically the case in life. But for the former Director of the exchange to admit this and embrace it? Terrifying.
I happen to be a fan of the single payer system and hope we can eventually get there. The ACA is a poorly constructed and managed attempt to put a band-aid on a bullet hole. Our healthcare system is a completely broken system and by this man's own admission, some will lose and some will "win" with the ACA. So... do we become content with that notion or do we strive to further improve the ACA and find a better solution?
I know what my answer would be.
ETA: I should addd that I do appreciate the Administration's attempt to improve and provide healthcare for all. I just don't think the final result was a good one.
Updated On: 9/25/13 at 05:28 PM
#18Is it copyright infringement?
Posted: 9/25/13 at 5:47pm
Obamacare is far from a perfect solution.
But the idea of standing still and doing absolutely nothing (except reading children's books) and preventing anything from happening is unthinkable.
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Liza's Headband
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/28/13
#19Is it copyright infringement?
Posted: 9/25/13 at 5:57pmCompletely agree with that particular notion, Besty. I wish Republicans weren't so damn stubborn. Many aspects of the ACA are fine. Use that as the shell and just retool the guts of it. Democrats have expressed a willingness -- sincerity not yet determined -- to compromise and do just that!!
Wildcard
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/21/06
#20Is it copyright infringement?
Posted: 9/25/13 at 6:07pmHe's a Tea Partier. Of course he doesn't care about any laws.
#21Is it copyright infringement?
Posted: 9/25/13 at 7:21pm
Interesting article...
When A Senator Reads 'Green Eggs & Ham' On The Floor, What About The Copyright?
#22Is it copyright infringement?
Posted: 9/25/13 at 8:22pm
I've never heard of the Speech and Debate Clause being applied to Copyright.
#23Is it copyright infringement?
Posted: 9/25/13 at 8:22pm
Double post
Wilmingtom
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/18/11
#24Is it copyright infringement?
Posted: 9/26/13 at 2:27amRandom House could bring a claim with or without the Geisel estate and I wish they would. You may not broadcast copyrighted material without the consent of the owners, period.
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