It must be time to promote MI3...

[Rose_MacShane]

Posted: 4/12/06 at 6:39pm

That man has opened his big fat f**king stupid mouth yet again, because apparently people forgot his stance on psychiatry. Again from IMDB:

"Tom Cruise is attacking those who prescribe psychiatric drugs again in the May issue of men's style magazine GQ. The Mission: Impossible III actor, who embarked on an anti-drug tirade in TV interviews last summer on behalf of his Scientology beliefs, has launched a fresh attack on psychiatry, calling for prescription pill poppers to think carefully about the harms they're doing to their bodies. He tells the magazine, "I've always found the 'if it makes me feel better, it's OK' rationale a little suspect. I think it's appalling that people have to live a life of drug addiction when I have personally helped people get off drugs." In the interview, the actor claims he can get someone off heroin in three days through Scientology's detox programs."

[cheezedoodle]

Posted: 4/12/06 at 6:44pm

Yes - but I read yesterday that at a sneak preview screening for MI3 the audience applauded when Cruise's character got an as* whipping. So I think it is pretty clear to all (but Tom) that his fifteen minutes are finally up!

[DG]

Posted: 4/12/06 at 6:51pm

Cheeze - I read that, too. But if his time was really up, there wouldn't have been an audience there in the first place.

[TheQuibbler]

Posted: 4/12/06 at 6:53pm

You know, it saddens me because I really enjoyed the second Mission Impossible movie and was looking forward to the third because of Phillip Seymour Hoffman. But now that I hate Tom Cruise so much, I don't think I could sit through it.

[Cruel_Sandwich]

Posted: 4/12/06 at 6:57pm

I have to say that I do agree with the man.

[Rose_MacShane]

Posted: 4/12/06 at 7:24pm

"Yes - but I read yesterday that at a sneak preview screening for MI3 the audience applauded when Cruise's character got an as* whipping. "

Really? Nice!

CS: You agree with him that taking antidepressants constitutes a drug problem, or that you can come off herion in three days? Be more specific! I need to know if I have to dispense a virtual ass-whoopin' of my own...

[Cruel_Sandwich]

Posted: 4/12/06 at 7:30pm

Well, the way I see it, the moment you pop an antidepressant into your mouth, you are basically just saying "I give up". Is there anything different from popping some Ritalin or lighting up a crack pipe? No. They both make you feel temporarily better about yourself until the feeling goes away...

[erikaamato]

Posted: 4/12/06 at 7:43pm

Um, what about people with legitimate chemical imbalances?????

[YouWantitWhen????]

Posted: 4/12/06 at 7:58pm

Cruel, step away from the keyboard. You do not know of what you speak.

I wonder if you would say the same thing to anyone else with a chemical imbalance that manifested itself in more acceptable ways. I seriously hope that no one in your family ever has to do battle with this illness if that is your view on available avenues for treatment.





Updated On: 4/12/06 at 07:58 PM

[knows_too_much]

Posted: 4/12/06 at 8:01pm

MI2 was the start of my hatred toward Tom Cruise. I enjoyed that movie but thought that it was the begining of Tom Cruise movies turning into Tom Cruise photo shoots in motion. They just feetl like a series of shots designd around making Tom Cruise look powerful and sexy and and intense, he quite acting and just started doing his Tom Cruise poses. I'm glad that other people are starting to hate him, because I've hated him, and been avoiding his movies for years.

[Cruel_Sandwich]

Posted: 4/12/06 at 8:05pm

90% of the time, "chemical imbalances" are psychological problems that have been manifested externally.

[YouWantitWhen????]

Posted: 4/12/06 at 8:07pm

Cruel -

I will just repeat again that you do not know of what you speak.

[Cruel_Sandwich]

Posted: 4/12/06 at 8:07pm

Eh I'm sorry. I felt like going the Namo route and being all "satir-eye-cal". I's be sorry. *Hug* Updated On: 4/12/06 at 08:07 PM

[YouWantitWhen????]

Posted: 4/12/06 at 8:12pm

Normally I would not care so much, but between a grandfather who hung himself, and so many kids who read this board and have commented on mental health issues, I probably have a wee bit less tolerance for humor about this issue than other issues.

So, carry on all, nothing to see here.

[Calvin]

Posted: 4/12/06 at 8:56pm

I think they should remake The Basketball Diaries from the Scientologist perspective, and instead of having severe withdrawal reactions, Jim Carroll could recover in three days, score 90 points in a single basketball game, jump on a couch and then fly off to Xanadu at the end or whatever the hell the Scientologists believe.

[ohhoney_]

Posted: 4/12/06 at 9:32pm

Hmm.
I could take prozac and try to stay less anxious and be a little harmed bu the side-affects of drowsiness, or I could starve myself to the point of hospitalization for a SECOND time.

Thanks Tom, but, I chose the former.

[Rose_MacShane]

Posted: 4/12/06 at 9:51pm

CS: Have you ever taken antidepressants? Have you ever been in therapy? Have you ever experienced real depression?
Because I have been through all of these things. I have experienced crushing depression. About four years ago, my state was such that I could not pull myself off the couch. I couldn't bring myself to care about anything; not hobbies, not friends, nothing.
I did therapy and it simply didn't do the job for me. It certainly didn't make things worse, but I wasn't getting any real benefit from it. My therapist thought I would benefit from medication. And she was right. I went on Paxil and I became myself again.
People (at least most people...) don't just jump into the meds pool. And nobody should. Medication doesn't work for everyone, but it did wonders for me. There are some problems that don't go away by themselves. Depression is a chemical imbalance just like any other, and I refuse to be ashamed because I need to take a pill to correct mine.

[YouWantitWhen????]

Posted: 4/13/06 at 1:46am

*clap clap clap clap clap*

Nicely said Rose.

[DG]

Posted: 4/13/06 at 1:51am

I'm absolutely certain that I will regret inquiring, but Cruel, what exactly is the background you have in this arena that has allowed you to form this opinion?

[YouWantitWhen????]

Posted: 4/13/06 at 2:22pm

Ewww, and Ewww again:

"TOM CRUISE enjoys a "spectacular" sex life with his pregnant fiancee KATIE HOLMES, because they have such good communications skills. The Hollywood actor reveals his sex secrets in the May (06) issue of GQ magazine, declaring the physical act is a "by-product" of a successful pairing. Cruise enthuses, "Sex is about the connection. "Great sex is a by-product, for me, of a great relationship, where you have communication and it's an extension of that. Where it's just free. And that's how it should be. It's spectacular. If you're not in good communication with your partner, it sucks. "(Meaningless sex outside of a relationship) is really horrible and pathetic and lonely."

[SorryGrateful]

Posted: 4/13/06 at 2:32pm

"Well, the way I see it, the moment you pop an antidepressant into your mouth, you are basically just saying "I give up". Is there anything different from popping some Ritalin or lighting up a crack pipe? No. They both make you feel temporarily better about yourself until the feeling goes away..."

As someone who has severe depression and needs to take antidepressants, I find that really offensive, Cruel_Sandwich. I went through the first 18 years of my life feeling worthless, anxious about everything, and contempating killing myself over things that seem trivial now, but were devastating at the time.

Without antidepressants now, I honestly would not be able to function and, sadly, may very well not be here right now. I went through a time where I decided that I didn't want to be on drugs anymore and stopped taking them for about a year. That was one of the worst years I can remember. I kept telling myself that there was nothing to be afraid of and that I was fine, but telling myself happy things did not help me get out of bed or stop crying.

I need to take antidepressants to live a happy, normal life. I don't walked around blissed out all the time and I do have sad moments just like normal people even as I take my Paxil. But these sad moments no longer crush me as they used to. I really don't appreciate when other people who may not have experienced the devastating effects of clinical depression tell me that I basically just need to get over it and then I will be OK. Believe me, I would love to, but it's not a simple as you would like it to be.

Updated On: 4/13/06 at 02:32 PM

[erikaamato]

Posted: 4/13/06 at 2:59pm

You tell 'em, SorryGrateful!

Although, thankfully, I personally do not suffer from depression, a few people in my family do, and their lives have literally been saved by finding the right medication. (And it's not just like, here, take a magic pill, now you're fine, either. Sometimes you have to try many different kinds and/or dosages until you find the right medication for you.)

I have chronic asthma, and have to take medication every day to control it. Does that somehow make me less of a person? Should I not take any medication and just hope I don't die from lack of oxygen during an attack some day? I don't see how taking medication for chronic depression is any different. Just my $.02

[YouWantitWhen????]

Posted: 4/13/06 at 3:07pm

EDIT - Nevermind. Updated On: 4/13/06 at 03:07 PM

[Cruel_Sandwich]

Posted: 4/13/06 at 3:09pm

I'm sorry to have offended you, SorryGrateful and Rose, but that's just based upon my own beliefs and my own personal observations. Perhaps I should have used better wording, I don't know...

I'm not personally forcing you to get off the mind taffy, though. I'm just saying that I personally would not do that because there are other avenues of help available.

As for myself, I maintain a rigorous exercise routine and eat five meals a day in accordance to a diet that I am on.

[kyguy78]

Posted: 4/13/06 at 3:10pm

Tom has just polarized America and that's probably the best thing he could ever do for his box office. There are people who still think he's the greatest thing since sliced bread and will pay to go see his movie. There are people who cannot stand him and want to see him get his ass kicked in a movie, so they too will pay to go see his movie.