Broadway Legend Joined: 5/20/03
"Dear GOD, Gotham, use your effing head. That's the kind of thing a person who UPLOADS a video gets to select."
bwaysinger, why don't you try and use your head before you post? Yesterday, the video was open to all on YouTube. Today, it is behind protection. People at YouTube have flagged the video as inappropriate.
As JoeK has pointed out the video was probably released so that Republicans could distance themselves from it, thereby getting more airplay. Democrats want it suppressed thereby flagging it on YouTube.
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/10/05
Mccain is Bush's lover. He will stop at nothing to suck up to the party. On the other hand, I did think the "commercial" was funny.
said it before and i'll say it again, "gayest. administration. ever."
and dg, what kind of follow-up?
Broadway Legend Joined: 11/2/05
papa - well, for starters, simply asking later on what else they might have found out. I've been given the impression that some of the attempted follow-up by those same FBI workers out in the field was met with indifference at best.
Gotham, if your trumping of a constant and vast Democratic conspiracy weren't so funny given your constant "Democrats did it!" mantra, you might realize that, had the Democrats wanted it barred, they'd have tried to have it removed for violation of terms. A warning tag isn't going to stop anyone from watching it and might, in fact, garner more views from kids thinking they're about to see something naughty.
Broadway Legend Joined: 11/2/05
papa - honestly, I'm not overly interested anymore in looking backwards - I think everyone needs to focus forward. As I've said before, even accepting the premise for current action (which you support,) I don't see it working. There seems to be a reluctance to address that issue on some people's part, and a refusal to provide alternative methods on other's part.
And for the record, since I've reached a point where I don't think any source of information can be believed, I derive most of my analysis of how it's going in Iraq by the decisions being made by the military. That IS something I have an awareness of, and the actuality of their actions does NOT add up to a positive state of affairs - I don't care what the press says, on either side of the issue.
i go back to what the 9/11 commission decided about 'em:
most of the intelligence community recognized in the summer of 2001 the the number and severity of threat reports were unprecedented. many officials told us that they knew something terrible was planned, and that they were desperate to stop it. despite their large number, the threats contained few specifics regarding time, place, method, or target. most suggested that the attacks were planned against targets overseas; others indicated threats against unspecified "u.s. interests." we cannot say for certain whether these reports, as dramatic as they were, relate to the 9/11 attacks.
Your defense of Rice and Bush's ineptitude is makes me want to vomit on your shoes.
The memo was one of MANY warnings that summer. MANY.
It was entitled "Bin Ladin DETERMINED to Strike in US." D-E-T-E-R-M-I-N-E-D, not "thinking of maybe if he gets around to it someday if he feels like it"--it said he was DETERMINED.
Condi's testimony before the 9/11 Commission: She and Bush considered the August 6th PDB as just a "historical document"--whatever the F*CK that means!--and she stated petulantly that it was NOT considered a "warning."
For that and the ensuing loss of life on September 11th, Condoleeza Rice should be tried for treason and George Bush should be impeached and convicted.
And you should lick my vomit off your shoes.
nah, i think i'll just sweep it into a nice dust pan so that i can dump it into the stump of your neck when i rip your head from you body and toss it into the nearest dumpster where it belongs. where'd ya get your rhetoric anyway? the bruce cutler school of babble?
And you know perfectly well that the version of the memo you posted is the one declassified one that had significant paragraphs and sentences blacked out.
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/31/69
Oh I hate it when my Papa and my PalJoey fight!
I'm sorry I skipped out on the You Tube debate-- I have no idea who would tag it or what their motives might be--I'm not much of a You Tube expert. But it certainly isn't stopping people from watching it. Papa's post said it was also going to be available on Drudge Report and other R-wing sites.
no, paljoey, that's another in the endless stream of poorly informed lies that spill from you like so much sh*t from an overfed goose. that transcript matches verbatim the document as transcribed by the 9/11 report. the only things redacted were the names of intelligence agencies.
pdf
There are paragraphs deleted from the report the White House released.
And--HELLO!--your own lowercased post says very clearly: parts of the original document were not made public by the white house for security reasons.
parts. meaning the blacked out parts. look at the pdf, braniac.
The large white section after the second paragraph contained the redacted sections.
Is this really the first you've heard of this?
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wrong again, smiley. the pdf is an exact copy of what was presented to the president with three redactions to protect the names of foreign intelligence sources. how's that crow? more mustard, maybe?
And if you believe that every document released by the government is released intact, with potentially damaging information left in, I dub thee Rose Mary Woods Jr.
Your faith in the honesty of Goverment would be inspiring--if only it carried through to Democratic administrations.
My bottom line: Condi and Dubya had more warnings that August--not just that one PDB--than had ever been given to a president before.
And what did George Bush do IMMEDIATELY after being told about the PDB?
According to the New York Times, he went fishin'.
there are paragraphs deleted from the report the white house released.
the large white section after the second paragraph contained the redacted sections.
my bottom line: paljoey is a liar who's so full of sh*t it's coming out his ears.
You are hopeless, just hopeless.
Will you EVER admit that your belovced Bush administration was DEAD wrong about all this?
Or will you be content to be a crackpot all "yer" life?
that's not what this is about. i made a specific point to joe regarding the pdb which i still maintain. then you rode in spewing lies about fantasy redacted portions of the document that don't exist. i merely pointed out that you were lying (which you do an awful lot).
Do you honestly believe the lies of thsi administration that you post here in your little lowercase yammerings?
Or do you just post them to be provocative, in which case I could say I find you only annoying and not stupefyingly stupid.
Do you really belive that there is any credibility to the actions of George Bush, Condoleezeeza Rice, Dick Cjheney and Donmald Rumsfeld when it comes to displaying an undertanding of the politics, religions and cultures of the Middle East, the Near East and, now, the Far East?
Do you actually think their actions have any integrity whatsoever?
If you do, my God, man, wake up and smell the Kool Aid. They have blundered at each and every step for 6 years. If you continue to defend them, it can only be out of stubbornness or stupidity.
Or else "yer" just not as bright as you'd like the people around here to believe. Which, increasingly, I believe to be the case.
**CUE PapaLovesMambo spewing more four-lettered curses and apostrophically redacted invective at PalJoey**
nah, when ya start getting yer panties in a bunch about capitalization, i just get to sit back and laugh.
to answer: yes, yes and yes.
to respond to the accusations of stupidity, i invoke the rubber/glue clause, ya big lying liar.
In your twisted mind, who's a bigger liar: PalJoey or George W. Bush?
pretty much a toss-up.
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