Jeremy Irons: "Gay Marriage will lead to Father/Son marriage"

[EricMontreal22]

Posted: 4/3/13 at 9:10pm

Is he ready for another stint in rehab? Last time he shoved his foot so far in his mouth he had a prescription drug prob... Bizarre interview. Seems he's another person who is worried about tax evasion nonsense, etc...

(Though I refuse to let it affect my near-annual Brideshead re-watch)

http://www.queerty.com/jeremy-irons-worries-gay-marriage-would-lead-to-fathers-marrying-sons-20130403/

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 4/3/13 at 9:16pm

There's a few Daddies I'd marry if I could.

[EricMontreal22]

Posted: 4/3/13 at 9:21pm

^^ Up till recently (and these comments,) Irons would have been on my list, actually...

[OrdinaryJukebox]

Posted: 4/3/13 at 9:21pm

By that standard, marriage between a man and a woman could lead to fathers marrying daughters and mothers their sons ... or, in other words, you're a ****ing idiot.

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 4/3/13 at 9:25pm

What a strange little conversation they had. I guess he's just worried about the tax implications in England, because in the US you'll pay taxes on an estate inherited from your parents. There's also some weird nonsense about his dog in there.

But I do appreciate the irony of someone who has been married more than once (especially when the first marriage lasted less than a year) worrying about gay people "debasing" marriage.

[EricMontreal22]

Posted: 4/3/13 at 9:29pm

Yes there's no way I can even humour the "debasing" argument-- It's just a much used homophobic excuse IMHO (ie I love gays, but marriage is defined as...)

But the estate taxes thing makes him sound like one of those stuffy Brits who is most worried about people evading estate taxes, people "sneakily" inheriting titles, etc, etc.

(And I do think the video shows he's back on the pills...)

[Roscoe]

Posted: 4/3/13 at 9:36pm

There goes that career -- he and Michelle Shocked should do a concert/reading tour.

He reminds me of that scene in SPINAL TAP where Nigel isn't happy with the catering, and he keeps missing the point that he isn't supposed to fold the bread, he keeps making the same nonsensical irrelevant point over and over and over...


Irons On Marriage Equality is Like Nigel Tufnel On Little Bread...

Updated On: 4/3/13 at 09:36 PM

[ray-andallthatjazz86]

Posted: 4/3/13 at 9:50pm

He should be more worried about where his career went rather than gay marriage. But like Eric said, he could've fallen off the wagon.

[Roscoe]

Posted: 4/3/13 at 9:55pm

If only the interviewer had pointed out that heterosexual marriage doesn't lead to mothers marrying sons, so why would homosexual marriage lead to fathers marrying sons?

Irons is an idiot, and is now shown to be a bigot. I won't be missing much by boycotting his work from now on. Frankly, after DEAD RINGERS there's not a lot to bother with anyway.

[Jay Lerner-Z]

Posted: 4/3/13 at 9:55pm

Even if he has fallen off the wagon, he's still a grade A moron.

[best12bars]

Posted: 4/3/13 at 9:58pm

Even if he were referring to "tax breaks," why doesn't his concern extend to mothers marrying their sons or fathers marring their daughters just to pay lower taxes?

Stupid rationale.

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 4/3/13 at 10:04pm

Because he doesn't think it's incest if there's no chance of procreation, at least that's what he seems to be saying in the video.

Updated On: 4/3/13 at 10:04 PM

[EricMontreal22]

Posted: 4/3/13 at 10:09pm

Right, which just makes his argument IMHO all the more confusing. I think (??) he meant that fathers and sons under gay marriage would somehow be allowed to marry because by his terms, anyway, that's not incest so they could get all these benefits that would never apply to straights because if they married their mothers/daughters/whatever it would be incest and not be legal....

Or something. My head hurts. But I do agree he hasn't really done anything of worth since Dead Ringers (the only major role I can even think of him in since then, is that all too literal Lolita--which raises more issues...

[Jay Lerner-Z]

Posted: 4/3/13 at 10:12pm

I just read the novel Night Train To Lisbon, and loved it, so I was looking forward to seeing the movie adaptation with Mr.Irons in the lead role.

Sue me, I'll still see it.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 4/3/13 at 10:18pm

This is the genius who didn't want a reading or a performance interpreted in sign language and who asked, "What are deaf people doing coming to the theater ANYWAY?"

He seems to lack empathy. And resembles a vampire who hasn't fed in a long time.

But I guess we'll always have, "Shunnay! Eat your shun-day!"

[doodlenyc]

Posted: 4/3/13 at 10:36pm

Well, I still put him at the top of the list for overrated Oscar winning performances. He's a jackass.

[justoldbill]

Posted: 4/3/13 at 10:38pm

Maybe there are darker personal issues he's circumventing.

[SNAFU]

Posted: 4/3/13 at 10:52pm

No one has ever said actors had to be smart, or be models or leaders for social issues. They are hired to entertain. When they cease to do this they cease to earn a living.
Irons stated his concerns which expose him for being an idiot. He made it a point that he didn't feel strongly one way or another. He just comes across as really not that bright.
Dance performer, entertain me or leave the stage.

[SeanMartin]

Posted: 4/3/13 at 11:13pm

Sounds kinda hot.....

Okay, I'll stop now.

[ghostlight2]

Posted: 4/3/13 at 11:26pm

First of all, the quotes (which should be removed) from this subject title are misleading. Irons most definitely did not say those words. Didn't come near that, in fact. The interviewer popped that question out of nowhere really, and Irons responded with a question of his own.

If you want to hate him, hate him for being a privileged and utterly dedicated Libertarian concerned about keeping his money from the plebes, not for being a homophobe. Watch the entire interview, not just the soundbyte. He's obviously a very strange, oddly thoughtful and intelligent man - also seemingly a little unhinged and yes, possibly off the wagon.

If you have the time, I'd suggest listening to the entire interview. I found it very interesting. The snippet posted earlier is the result of a very abrupt and unexpected question right at the very end.
the entire interview

[TheatreFan4]

Posted: 4/3/13 at 11:27pm

So you're telling me that Jeremy Irons is NOT gay? Well I just don't what to believe anymore.

What about a mother marrying her son? It's not incest if she has her tubes tied or sterilized. I've seen plenty of porn between twins, it happens. If a father wants to marry his son and they're both consenting then who the **** cares? It's not like it'll turn anymore heads in public than a Twink & Daddy relationship.

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 4/3/13 at 11:34pm

I'm not about to watch all 30 minutes, but it still seems like the clip on HuffPo is self-contained enough. He says he's worried (about the debasement of marriage) about three times before he gets to the tax stuff, which I noted above. And, like I noted, he's the one saying it's not incest between two male relatives because they can't procreate.



Updated On: 4/3/13 at 11:34 PM

[EricMontreal22]

Posted: 4/3/13 at 11:35pm

Ghostlight--I can't edit my posts, as I've complained of here before (or send PMs--and yes, I've bugged the mods about it,) but you're right it's not a direct quote. I do think it's fair enough, personally though.

But I agree that his main issue--as I said--is "about keeping his money from the plebes" (as you said.) I did watch the very weird complete HuffLive video, however, before posting (but I admit it would be far less incendiary to just post to that--partly because many probably wouldn't even watch it through.)

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 4/3/13 at 11:35pm

What if they're both deaf?

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 4/3/13 at 11:37pm

Interviewer: That sounds like a total red herring. I'm sure that incest law would still cover same-sex marriages.

Irons: Really? Why?