Jeremy Irons: "Gay Marriage will lead to Father/Son marriage" — Page 2
#28
Posted: 4/3/13 at 11:41pm
I'm really glad I didn't get the gay "related dudes doing it is hot" gene.
#29
Posted: 4/3/13 at 11:45pm
Well if we're talking about hot twins, that's a different story.
Obviously.
Obviously.
#32
Posted: 4/3/13 at 11:55pm
"He says he's worried (about the debasement of marriage) about three times before he gets to the tax stuff, which I noted above. And, like I noted, he's the one saying it's not incest between two male relatives because they can't procreate. "
He says debasement once, and very quickly corrects himself (in vicoden veritas, perhaps?), but it seems pretty clear to me that his concern is all about the money, and who deserves what, not the sexuality.
Interviewer: That sounds like a total red herring. I'm sure that incest law would still cover same-sex marriages.
Irons: Really? Why?
In context of the entire interview, to my mind, his very genuine response had nothing to do with comparing gay marriage to incest, because in his mind, the only problem with incest is inbreeding, and other than that, why shouldn't anyone do whatever they want to as long as no one is harmed (and he gets to keep his money).
A crazy Libertarian? Yes. A bigoted homophobe? Not in my opinion.
Of course, one's not much better than the other - but they are two very different things.
He says debasement once, and very quickly corrects himself (in vicoden veritas, perhaps?), but it seems pretty clear to me that his concern is all about the money, and who deserves what, not the sexuality.
Interviewer: That sounds like a total red herring. I'm sure that incest law would still cover same-sex marriages.
Irons: Really? Why?
In context of the entire interview, to my mind, his very genuine response had nothing to do with comparing gay marriage to incest, because in his mind, the only problem with incest is inbreeding, and other than that, why shouldn't anyone do whatever they want to as long as no one is harmed (and he gets to keep his money).
A crazy Libertarian? Yes. A bigoted homophobe? Not in my opinion.
Of course, one's not much better than the other - but they are two very different things.
#33
Posted: 4/3/13 at 11:58pm
Shunnay! Eat your shunday!
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#34
Posted: 4/4/13 at 12:03am
Do I think he's a raging homophobe? No. Do I think the pathology is a little deeper than just his Libertarian principles? Yes.
Updated On: 4/4/13 at 12:03 AM
#36
Posted: 4/4/13 at 12:25am
To be honest, and to completely co-opt Phyllis' last post which I agree with, I don't think even the most extreme reaction in this thread painted him as a raging homophobe. (Some of the comments on that Queerty link do, but comments on those sites don't really amount to meaning anything, in my experience.)
And I have no clue how this turned into (from some posters) a thing about incest porn, but I can't see getting off on porn if you watch and have to think about what kind of messed up connection those performers must have had growing up...
And I have no clue how this turned into (from some posters) a thing about incest porn, but I can't see getting off on porn if you watch and have to think about what kind of messed up connection those performers must have had growing up...
#37
Posted: 4/4/13 at 12:27am
I bet you ask the whores to tell you about their childhood first, don't you.
#38
Posted: 4/4/13 at 12:30am
Yes, and if they shed one tear while telling their story, I just drive on by....
#39
Posted: 4/4/13 at 12:31am
I like that. Show them no mercy. I hope you throw a half full Big Gulp at their heads as you drive by.
#40
Posted: 4/4/13 at 12:33am
Nah, I'm Canadian--I'll toss a few Twonies, depending on how hard they seem to try. They are prob worth the same, but leave longer lasting scars (physical ones I mean--because, once again, emotional scars are NOT HOT.)
#41
Posted: 4/4/13 at 12:59am
Im surprised he survived backstage at the BC/EFA Easter Bonnet Competition.
"The sexual energy between the mother and son really concerns me!"-random woman behind me at Next to Normal
"I want to meet him after and bang him!"-random woman who exposed her breasts at Rock of Ages, referring to James Carpinello
#42
Posted: 4/4/13 at 1:10am
Here's some more fodder if you want to feel meh on Jeremy Irons a little more.
Jeremy Irons opens up on bottom controversy as he admits 'I love touching people'
Jeremy Irons opens up on bottom controversy as he admits 'I love touching people'
#43
Posted: 4/4/13 at 1:45am
Thanks for that very interesting interview, Phyl. Can't say it changes my opinion of him. He just strikes me as a very strange, complex guy. I'm not even a fan, really. In fact, the words that Namo keeps repeating are just nonsense words to me, though I assume they're a bastardization of a quote from one of Irons' films, but I don't recognize it.
#44
Posted: 4/4/13 at 8:25am
I've always objected when people say actors aren't too bright but....
#45
Posted: 4/4/13 at 10:14am
The guy who's gone from BRIDESHEAD REVISITED to THE BORGIAS knows something about debasement, but still...
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#46
Posted: 4/4/13 at 10:39am
oh ghostlight2,
You're KILLING me for not getting a good Sunny von Bulow reference!
Any film featuring the knock-out duo of Julie Hagerty and Uta Hagen is worth your time. Throw in a side of Christine Baranski and it's just heaven.
You're KILLING me for not getting a good Sunny von Bulow reference!
Any film featuring the knock-out duo of Julie Hagerty and Uta Hagen is worth your time. Throw in a side of Christine Baranski and it's just heaven.
#47
Posted: 4/4/13 at 10:53am
I'd forgotten about Baranski! It's so bizarre; I think there is literally a record scratch on the sound track when she shows up.
#48
Posted: 4/4/13 at 11:01am
My kingdom for a 'Like' button.
Nothing makes me happier than Uta Hagen's insane screen appearances. REVERSAL OF FORTUNE and THE BOYS FROM BRAZIL fill me with giddy joy. She's so freaking nuts in them that I just revel in it.
Nothing makes me happier than Uta Hagen's insane screen appearances. REVERSAL OF FORTUNE and THE BOYS FROM BRAZIL fill me with giddy joy. She's so freaking nuts in them that I just revel in it.
#49
Posted: 4/4/13 at 11:03am
I know! I love her in "The Other," where she more or less plays Maria Ouspenskaya.
#50
Posted: 4/4/13 at 11:04am
Back on topic, I love Adam Feldman's comment:
"I don't have strong feelings either way, but if I were one of Jeremy Irons's two sons I'd be feeling PRETTY CREEPED OUT right now."
"I don't have strong feelings either way, but if I were one of Jeremy Irons's two sons I'd be feeling PRETTY CREEPED OUT right now."
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