Posted: 3/27/15 at 4:25pm
Posted: 3/27/15 at 4:37pm
There was only one character on that show I could identify with but I seriously refuse to waste my time on a badly written show let alone a boring one. My time is too valuable to waste, but to each his own. The public has responded by tuning out in droves and the consequence of that was it's inevitable cancellation. Looking was a show looking for an audience, when they should have been looking for continuity and good writers to keep viewers interested and invested. The show had a promising start alas it was unable to deliver.
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Posted: 3/27/15 at 4:42pm
Can I make a confession? I feel the exact opposite. I feel like a half hour on a Sunday is not much time to give up to a show like this. Even though I had MAJOR problems with it, it didn't feel like too much of an investment, so I never gave up on it.
Posted: 3/27/15 at 5:22pm
But don't get me wrong I'm not doing a happy dance over it's cancellation.
Updated On: 3/27/15 at 05:22 PM
Posted: 3/27/15 at 5:28pm
But Eric said a number of times something to the effect of 'Why waste your time on something you don't like?'
I guess for me there were enough small moments that made me interested...though they were fleeting. I'm getting more and more interested in television production and I'd love to develop something gay-centric. Watching this was helpful with that. And...in the end...it's just a half hour on a Sunday. What else would I be doing?
Posted: 3/27/15 at 5:32pm
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Posted: 3/27/15 at 6:20pm
"Maybe the show’s failure to connect with gay audiences had more to do with the way gay men traditionally approach pop culture. So much of the entertainment we love isn’t actually gay: Mommie Dearest, The Golden Girls, Judy Garland, Madonna, Ab Fab, etc. We love divas and absurd, outsized personalities, and the guys on Looking didn’t even come close. A lot has been written about how important it was that a show like Looking was out there, depicting gay lives. And yes, it’s important for gay people to see themselves and their stories represented on television. But there was also something extremely odd about seeing things on TV that were so specific to being gay. It almost felt gratuitous, "
So we are doomed to only having campy gay shows? (And he's wrong, as this thread proves, that gays didn't hate watch Looking. Just not enough.)
Posted: 3/27/15 at 8:44pm
I know it's more subtle than that. I'm not suggesting that people who turned the show off were grossed out by the gay stuff - I recognize that plenty of people didn't connect with the show's sensibilities. I'm talking about potential viewers - people who probably never tuned in BECAUSE of what the show was about. When the actual actors from the show are saying their parents told them that watching Looking made them uncomfortable, I don't think it was solely because their kids were being depicted as open, unapologetic, sexually active gay men, but because ANYONE was.
That leaves you largely depending upon gay men as an audience and to expect gay men to be one monolithic block in 2015 is probably asking too much. And then we get into the wildly varying statistics on how much of the population actually IS gay in the first place. I know several straight female friends who were big fans of the show, but it was not a water cooler show for them that they'd discuss with all their gf's the way GIRLS is - or at least - was. I'd be curious to see the breakdown of viewers, but I'm imagining they were under-represented and perhaps better marketing to women might - MIGHT - have saved the show.
Posted: 3/27/15 at 8:44pm
I know it's more subtle than that. I'm not suggesting that people who turned the show off were grossed out by the gay stuff - I recognize that plenty of people didn't connect with the show's sensibilities. I'm talking about potential viewers - people who probably never tuned in BECAUSE of what the show was about. When the actual actors from the show are saying their parents told them that watching Looking made them uncomfortable, I don't think it was solely because their kids were being depicted as open, unapologetic, sexually active gay men, but because ANYONE was.
That leaves you largely depending upon gay men as an audience and to expect gay men to be one monolithic block in 2015 is probably asking too much. And then we get into the wildly varying statistics on how much of the population actually IS gay in the first place. I know several straight female friends who were big fans of the show, but it was not a water cooler show for them that they'd discuss with all their gf's the way GIRLS is - or at least - was. I'd be curious to see the breakdown of viewers, but I'm imagining they were under-represented and perhaps better marketing to women might - MIGHT - have saved the show.
Posted: 3/27/15 at 11:40pm
Posted: 3/28/15 at 10:59am
My takeaway from that John Russell critique from Next magazine:
Murder mysteries, life-threatening illnesses, political scandals, life-or-death situations—none of that soapy stuff was what the show needed. I think what it was missing were compelling characters.
The goals of the writers are not what was at fault. The execution was.
Bad writing killed Looking.
Posted: 3/28/15 at 11:04am
Horse--well said, and I agree (obviously.)
Posted: 3/28/15 at 11:06am
Bad writing killed Looking. "
But it wasn't. It always advertised itself as being anything but a gay soap opera. It probably would have done better if it WAS a soap. But it's not like it did a bait and switch, PJ.
Posted: 3/28/15 at 1:53pm
I can think of a MILLION ways to make an interesting slice of life series about gay guys (and their friends) in a major American city that doesn't have to be serialized from week to week and that could actually be good.
So yeah, it wasn't advertised as a soap but it had continuing stories, oh wait, sorry, "arcs". God I hate arcs.
Posted: 3/28/15 at 2:27pm
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Posted: 4/2/15 at 11:10pm
I'm linking this mostly for Eric, in the event he still hasn't had enough sprawling analysis. :)https://medium.com/human-parts/in-which-we-grow-tired-of-looking-for-representation-65e2efdb02e
Posted: 4/2/15 at 11:31pm
I only read the first couple lines of that, but I guess Dom really did have a chicken?
Posted: 4/2/15 at 11:47pm
Keep [BLEEP!]in' that chicken.
Posted: 4/3/15 at 12:49am
I think it's time for everyone to move on. I couldn't get past the first couple of paragraphs. Not because of Rohin Guha, but because I'm all Looking'd out - I think he wrote a really interesting collaborative piece a few weeks ago on Medium - Guardians, Gatekeepers, and the Gay White Media.
Posted: 4/3/15 at 2:59am
Someone did a think piece on Patricia Arquette's Medium?!?! I only watched a few episodes, but man, this will be a must read if it's about her and Looking!!
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