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Liberal Catholic Theologians Call for Pope to Resign Over Holocaust Denier- Page 2

Liberal Catholic Theologians Call for Pope to Resign Over Holocaust Denier

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PalJoey
#25When Same-Sex Marriage Was a Christian Rite
Posted: 2/4/09 at 8:16am

Sorry. I jacked my own thread.


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papalovesmambo
#26get yer indulgences, indulgences here
Posted: 2/4/09 at 8:24am

eh, there was a time when $39.95 to the right church official would get you a brand new soul, a get out of hell free card and all the altar boys you could bugger.


r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.

...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty

pray to st. jude

i'm a sonic reducer

he was the gimmicky sort

fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective

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PalJoey
#27get yer indulgences, indulgences here
Posted: 2/4/09 at 8:28am

What does that say for infallibility, huh?


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papalovesmambo
#28get yer indulgences, indulgences here
Posted: 2/4/09 at 8:33am

goes back to my initial argument.

i means seriously. it's like joining the klan and saying, but i love the white sheets. it's like joining hamas and saying, i know, i know the jews, but look at the healthcare i get! it's like joining nambla and saying - oh wait, pretty much the same thing.


r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.

...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty

pray to st. jude

i'm a sonic reducer

he was the gimmicky sort

fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective

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PalJoey
#29get yer indulgences, indulgences here
Posted: 2/4/09 at 9:53am

But it what the various popes have believed changes from pope to pope, why shouldn't free-thinking Catholics think for themselves?

Maybe the next pope will agree with them. Or the last one.

Obviously the popes of the 100th and 11th century believed that two men could be joined in an Office of Same-Sex Union.

Weren't those popes infallible too?


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Reginald Tresilian
#30get yer indulgences, indulgences here
Posted: 2/4/09 at 10:01am

No, actually. Papal infallibility didn't become dogma until 1870.
Updated On: 2/4/09 at 10:01 AM

Phyllis Rogers Stone
#31get yer indulgences, indulgences here
Posted: 2/4/09 at 10:06am

When you're in hell for a sin that is no longer a sin do you get to go to heaven?

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papalovesmambo
#32get yer indulgences, indulgences here
Posted: 2/4/09 at 10:25am

heh, if it's not really a sin, phyllis you're not really in hell. you're just pointing and laughing at a lot of people who didn't do it and always wanted to who feel real stupid.


r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.

...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty

pray to st. jude

i'm a sonic reducer

he was the gimmicky sort

fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective

Phyllis Rogers Stone
#33get yer indulgences, indulgences here
Posted: 2/4/09 at 10:34am

I wish I'd known that before the church royally effed up my psyche.

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PalJoey
#34The Pope Knew Nothing
Posted: 2/4/09 at 10:37am

Does this guy still deny the holocaust? Or did he make a full confession and do penance? If the pop asbolved him and told him "Go, and deny no more!" I don't know how anyone could challenge that.

No, he did not, but today the Vatican called for him to "recant" his Holocaust-denying views.

They also said the pope "knew nothing" about Bishop Williamson's views.

Given the pope's early years in the Hitler Youth, it's odd for him to be doing a Sergeant Schultz from Hogan's Heroes saying "I know nosssink!"

Of course he knew about Williamson's views! They were hardly secret.
Vatican: Holocaust denier must recant


Phyllis Rogers Stone
#35The Pope Knew Nothing
Posted: 2/4/09 at 10:49am

So the long arm of the Jews strikes again. Isn't it funny how the people who preach tolerance the most are so intolerant of other views themselves?

Roscoe
#36The Pope Knew Nothing
Posted: 2/4/09 at 11:03am

When does the Catholic church preach tolerance at all?


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about the answers." Thomas Pynchon, GRAVITY'S RAINBOW "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." Philip K. Dick My blog: http://www.roscoewrites.blogspot.com/

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Reginald Tresilian
#37The Pope Knew Nothing
Posted: 2/4/09 at 11:04am

Yeah, I wasn't sure who you were talking about, Phyl.

Phyllis Rogers Stone
#38The Pope Knew Nothing
Posted: 2/4/09 at 11:14am

Not the Catholics. The Jews.

Roscoe
#39The Pope Knew Nothing
Posted: 2/4/09 at 11:32am

See, the whole problem with this whole protest against the Pope kind of boils down to one little thing:

Popes aren't generally known for giving a damn what anybody thinks. They're the goddamn Pope. Who the hell are you to tell them what to do?


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about the answers." Thomas Pynchon, GRAVITY'S RAINBOW "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." Philip K. Dick My blog: http://www.roscoewrites.blogspot.com/

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papalovesmambo
#40i'm the pope, bitch!
Posted: 2/4/09 at 11:35am

one dress wearing man calls for another to take off his silly hat
Posted On: 2/3/09 at 01:04 PM


i cannot see how benedict can withstand this outpouring. oh wait, yeah i can. he's the pope.


r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.

...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty

pray to st. jude

i'm a sonic reducer

he was the gimmicky sort

fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective

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PalJoey
#41i'm the pope, bitch!
Posted: 2/4/09 at 12:17pm

Andrew Sullivan--a devout Catholic--has two fascinating items on his blog today about the pope, Father Maciel and the Holocaust-denier Williamson.

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/



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