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#26

re: Looking to adopt a dog,,,,would like some help.

Anything mixed with a poodle doesn't shed, right?

That's not necessarily true. Just as it's not necessarily true that a lot of the supposed hypoallergenic cross-breeds are actually hypoallergenic. It depends a lot on the person, and how severe their allergies are, and of course, on how far cross-bred the dogs are. Supposedly, if you breed them far enough down the line, they will stop shedding entirely, but I don't know if that's really a rule to go by -- especially for people who want non-shedding dogs due to serious allergies.

If you want a dog that doesn't shed because you have allergies, the best thing you can do before you decide is to spend a lot of time with the dog you're considering -- not just the breed, but the actual dog -- to see how you fare. Dog allergies are not really clear-cut. They can have sort of unexplained varieties or exceptions to the rule (Jane is a perfect example -- she says she has had reactions to dogs that are known to be "non-allergic -- and I am allergic to dogs, but I can be around them with absolutely no problem, however, I can't live with one unless it's a hypoallergenic breed). A lot of figuring it out if you want to avoid extensive testing is simply trial and error. But, of course, you don't want to bring a dog into your home and then not be able to keep it because you turn out to be allergic. So do your homework.

That being said, the (pure) dog breeds that are closest to being non-allergic are Poodles (of any size), Shih Tzus, Bichon Frises, Wheaton Terriers, and Portuguese Water Dogs. Dogs that are almost universally considered "non-allergic" are breeds that don't shed -- most people with dog allergies are allergic not to the hair, but to the dander, which is why people with allergies can often not be allergic to dogs that do not shed. (With cats, it's their saliva, so it's virtually impossible to find a hypoallergenic cat.) And all of that being said, if you want a small breed that doesn't shed, you're looking at Poodles, Bichons and Shih Tzus. Personally, I like Poodles. They're very smart, and loyal. Shih Tzus can be really great pets, but they get a reputation for not being very bright, and Bichons are generally very sweet, but some of them can be quite stubborn and a little too high strung to tolerate.
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#27

re: Looking to adopt a dog,,,,would like some help.

I must be extremely sensitive, allergy-wise. My cousin has a shih-tzu. He lives in Jersey. If I should meet him in NY, and give him a big hug, and his cheek brushes against mine, I'll break out in an itchy rash from his dog having licked his face hours ago!
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#28

re: Looking to adopt a dog,,,,would like some help.

whatever you get, make it a rescue dog
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#29

re: Looking to adopt a dog,,,,would like some help.

Wow, Jane! Are there any dog breeds that actually give you a rash? I've had that happen, too. Pugs and Shar Peis make me itchy if I pet them. re: Looking to adopt a dog,,,,would like some help.
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#31

re: Looking to adopt a dog,,,,would like some help.

Interesting, because birds, oddly enough, used to aggravate my allergies. I've actually outgrown my dog and cat allergies (most likely because of my constant exposure).

Hybrid dogs that are mixed with poodles CAN shed. There's really no truth to the "hypo allergenic" dog claim, because, as many have already said, the saliva in even the most non-shedding dog can trigger a reaction.


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#32

re: Looking to adopt a dog,,,,would like some help.

BroadwayBoy2, one thing to understand is that it is VERY difficult to find a non-shedding dog to rescue. I don't think the best option is to go to PetLand and by a puppy, but another good option to consider is buying a dog direct from the breeder.
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#33

re: Looking to adopt a dog,,,,would like some help.

Misschung, you are right. There's really no such thing as a truly non allergenic dog or cat since they all have saliva and dander. Those who can tolerate certain breeds probably aren't as allergic as other people are.

As for birds, it's true that some people are allergic to feathers, and I wonder if their saliva and dander factor in? thank god I'm ok with birds!
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#34

re: Looking to adopt a dog,,,,would like some help.

I think it is their dander, if I'm not mistaken. I've still had birds as pets, though. I love them but I always feel bad that I'm confining them.
The morning star always gets wonderful bright the minute before it has to go --doesn't it?
#35

re: Looking to adopt a dog,,,,would like some help.

emcee- yes, if they lick my face, arm, leg, etc. directly, or if I touch someone who was just licked.

misschung-my parrot is never confined. The cage door is always open. They come out and go in when they want! It's surprising to know that the cage offers them a feeling of security if they're in the state of mind to want it.
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#36

re: Looking to adopt a dog,,,,would like some help.

Miss Holly is a Fox Terrier and they don't shed.

You can also rescue dogs from breeders, for a nominal adoption fee. They are often, like Miss Holly, "bitches past breeding" (an unfortunate term that offends Miss Holly deeply).

At 1 1/2, she had already had a litter of puppies who were "not up to breed standard" (another phrase that offends her). She had been bred with Champion Bully Bully, the top Fox Terrier stud in the country, but it hadn't gone well. Miss Holly would have none of it, and the mating had to be completed with an apparatus similar to a turkey baster. That explains why Miss Holly snarls at the sight of certain kitchen appliances.

Champion Bully Bully never recovered the blow to his pride, his stud fees diminished, the puppies were sold for pets and Miss Holly was put out to pasture, a failure at 1 1/2.

That's when we rescued her, and she's been happy ever since.

Updated On: 4/26/09 at 04:53 PM

#37

re: Looking to adopt a dog,,,,would like some help.

Great story, PJ!

I rescued my second parrot, Robbie Sue. His first owner realized he didn't want him, and returned him to the pet shop. He looked dejected and abused, so I took him, and he had a happy 30 years with me.

This time it was important for me to get a baby, so I had to go to a breeder for Jezebel.



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Updated On: 4/26/09 at 05:04 PM

#38

re: Looking to adopt a dog,,,,would like some help.

one thing to understand is that it is VERY difficult to find a non-shedding dog to rescue.

False. There's something called breed rescue; yes, there are often extensive waiting lists and grueling screening processes, but I wouldn't say a pure-bred non-shedding dog that's not from a pet store or a breeder is hard to find. In a shelter, yes, you'd be hard pressed to find such a thing (though it absolutely does happen, and more often than you'd think) -- but there are rescue organizations for the vast majority of AKC recognized breeds. (And, of course, there are instances like Pal Joey's story.)
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Updated On: 4/26/09 at 05:40 PM

#39

re: Looking to adopt a dog,,,,would like some help.

^ along with that, you'd be surprised what you can find at some shelters. I know it sounds cliche but with the economic downturn a lot of pets are being given up, and many shelters have dogs such as Bichons, poodle mixes, etc. Obviously not every dog in every shelter is a pure bread or "designer" breed but it's certainly not impossible to find them in a regular shelter. And, of course, breed-specific rescues are always an option.
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#40

re: Looking to adopt a dog,,,,would like some help.

It definitely happens. And, like I said, more often than you'd think. The tricky thing is that if you're looking for a non-shedding dog for health reasons and your allergies are bad enough that this is a necessity, you need to be pretty damn sure that dog is not crossed with anything else. Often, owners will turn the dog's breeding papers and certificates of pedigree over to the shelter with the animal, in which case, go for it. But if you have allergies, do be careful. The last thing you want to do is not be able to keep the animal you've adopted and grown attached to.
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Updated On: 4/26/09 at 11:31 PM

#41

re: Looking to adopt a dog,,,,would like some help.

Breed specific rescues are the way to go if you need a non-shedding dog. I've seen hundreds of Pet Adoption ads advertising dogs that owners are giving away due to allergies, and it just breaks my heart.

"bitches past breeding" (an unfortunate term that offends Miss Holly deeply).

Best. line. ever.
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