Madonna says Obama is a Muslim
#26Madonna says Obama is a Muslim
Posted: 9/25/12 at 7:14pm
Oh dear, it would appear Madonna had a brain fart, a big one. A lot of people are saying she was been sarcastic but it's still a silly comment. Shame after the amount of positive messages she has been sending out in support of him on every date, i guess this will be the one that is remembered.
I don't think she was doing it for attention, the tour is a huge hit in the states, i think she just said something stupid or made a stupid joke.
But yes, at least she looked fabulous when she said it
#27Madonna says Obama is a Muslim
Posted: 9/25/12 at 8:23pm
Meh, this isn't a big deal.
Madonna is under no obligation to be well-informed or intelligent, unlike many of the actual forces-for-evil who are running for public office. She meant no harm, the poor dear.
#28Madonna says Obama is a Muslim
Posted: 9/25/12 at 10:12pmIf Obama's father had been Jewish wouldn't a lot of people be saying he was Jewish? I don't mean to be glib here. I'm just suggesting that the fact that Barack Obama Sr. was raised in a Muslim family and later converted to Christianity still makes him in the minds of many Muslim, and that among those who are bothered by this there is not just a xenophobic religious sensibility but a xenophobic ethnic sensibility. Otherness that is not "remedied" by conversion in the eyes of some people who happen to be White American Christian xenophobes.
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Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
#29Madonna says Obama is a Muslim
Posted: 9/25/12 at 10:33pm
"the tour is a huge hit in the states..."
"I don't think she was doing it for attention"
Oh brother. I stayed out of this thread so sanddm might perceive how many people in her shrinking demographic, who have seen her shows previously and loved her, are now over her and did not in fact like the show at all.
And of course, people are always praising her for getting people talking which makes her a "smart businesswoman." I assure you, s, nobody outside of her circle of fans and her legions of ex-fans are talking about the tour. Her inflated prices guarantee she's raking in the big bucks, technically a "hit," but the fact that she's touring does not register in this cultural moment in the US *at all*. And now, she's being talked about. Sure, she's being talked about as an idiot, but HEY! She got them talking!!!! That's what matters, right??
If she was half as smart as people think she is, she would know that utterly humorless people like herself can not pull off irony. Ever. But let's give her a pass, okay? Because while she's making money hand over fist testing the patience of her most ardent fans on this leg of her tour, the poor thing hasn't had a holiday this summer.
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#30Madonna says Obama is a Muslim
Posted: 9/25/12 at 10:52pm
she got stuck in her words, train of thought. or lack of thoughts. whatever. it happens to anyone.
but unfortunately- it's a bad gaffe.
we will all survive after this- and so will madonna.
move on. next.
and since when has the Huffington Post become the DAILY Madonna blog?
Is there nothing else to report but madonna's every day tour notes?
Updated On: 9/25/12 at 10:52 PM
#31Madonna says Obama is a Muslim
Posted: 9/26/12 at 11:14am
"and since when has the Huffington Post become the DAILY Madonna blog?
Is there nothing else to report but madonna's every day tour notes?"
It's for the same reason the NFL ref lockout was their top story for almost two days. Traffic.
"I was being ironic on stage,” the pop icon said. “Yes, I know Obama is not a Muslim -- though I know that plenty of people in this country think he is. And what if he were? The point I was making is that a good man is a good man, no matter who he prays to. I don't care what religion Obama is — nor should anyone else in America."
Madonna says she was being ironic.
#32Madonna says Obama is a Muslim
Posted: 9/26/12 at 11:54am^ I saw that. It was stupid. Considering she called him a Black Muslim. Not just a Muslim.
FindingNamo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
#33Madonna says Obama is a Muslim
Posted: 9/26/12 at 12:58pmMadonna can't pull of "sincere," how the hell does she think she can do "irony"?
#34Madonna says Obama is a Muslim
Posted: 9/26/12 at 1:01pmObviously she was being ironic with her use of irony.
#35Madonna says Obama is a Muslim
Posted: 9/26/12 at 1:28pmHonestly, I think she was being sarcastic. Like, saying, "Keep saying stupid things like this, haters!" I don't know. It was stupid, but I think I see what she was TRYING to go for.
#36Madonna says Obama is a Muslim
Posted: 9/26/12 at 1:29pm
I don't care what religion Obama is...
Dear, you just did it again. I think you meant to say "It doesn't matter what religion Obama is..."
What you said still implies he is of the religion (you think) people object to.
Perhaps what you ought to have said is "It doesn't matter what I say. Maybe I should just shut the F*CK up."
#37Madonna says Obama is a Muslim
Posted: 9/26/12 at 1:32pm
Yeah I think it's pretty obvious she was being sarcastic.
The only people who would take this seriously are people who think that already anyway. And I doubt Madonna has many fans in that demographic. I wonder if White Supremacist Jim Coyler is a Madonna fan now...
#38Madonna says Obama is a Muslim
Posted: 9/26/12 at 1:56pm
Sure, she's being talked about as an idiot, but HEY! She got them talking!!!! That's what matters, right??
Absolutely! Just ask the Kardashians, the Real Housewives, the Honey Boo Boo family or even OJ Simpson.
and since when has the Huffington Post become the DAILY Madonna blog?
Is there nothing else to report but madonna's every day tour notes?
Yes, that is all they report. Nothing else. They don't have categories of news other than Entertainment and there they only post Madonna articles. Why, if you click on the Entertainment link on their completely empty home page, all you will get is the link to the one Madonna article they recently posted. That's it.
(Sorry, I can't be as idiotically and unintentionally ironic as a relevant pop music legend gay icon diva singer/actor/director who still has it and looks great for her age by all accounts from her spiky album/single/teaser charts and wildly successful tour with practically no promotion at all)
Madonna is under no obligation to be well-informed or intelligent
Then she should stop pretending that she is.
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#39Madonna says Obama is a Muslim
Posted: 9/26/12 at 3:02pm
Yeah, I do think it is Madonna's notable irony at work. But I also think that was misguided on her part to say that. When I first heard that Black Muslim comment, I instantly thought of the Nation of Islam that she might been referring to. An organization that's way too obsessed with black masculinity for its own good and upholds very conservative and patriarchal views under a very specific brand of Islam. I thought, "Uh oh..."
Given plenty of Americans' general ignorance regarding Muslims and Islam, not the least of which the lack of knowledge of the faith and the diversity in it, it really shouldn't be surprising why plenty of them like Republicans are distorting it for their own ends while running away with it. Having a Muslim president really should not matter solely on the basis of faith. But many clearly aren't ready for it like with the Catholic Alfred E. Smith as President close to a century ago.
These days, when you attend a Madonna concert, you come to see HER, not necessarily her music. By the way, I miss the sexy, slutty, horny Madonna.
#40Madonna says Obama is a Muslim
Posted: 9/26/12 at 3:04pm
I agree with Matt's last statement--the problem is she acts like she IS well-informed. I think the Muslim thing was a joke--or at least I like to think so, but I dunno....
I see her in Vancouver on Sunday. I hope she makes a lot of statements against Stephen Harper (though, like most people reading this, I have no belief she even knows who he is, or what he means to the "state of Toronto").
#41Madonna says Obama is a Muslim
Posted: 9/26/12 at 5:32pmObama IS a Muslim (at heart), and Madonna is even worse.
#42Madonna says Obama is a Muslim
Posted: 9/26/12 at 5:43pm
You say that like it is a birth defect or detriment to character.
What about Muhammad Ali? Kareem Abdul-Jabbar? Those practicing Muslims who chose the religion. Are they even worse than Madonna for you, Jim Colyer, White Supremacist?
#43Madonna says Obama is a Muslim
Posted: 9/26/12 at 5:51pmI'd rather a Muslim president than a bigoted Asshole F*CKface white supremacist KKK member like you, Jim Colyer, White Supremacist Asshat.
#44Madonna says Obama is a Muslim
Posted: 9/26/12 at 5:55pmAnd that was Jordan being polite!
#45Madonna says Obama is a Muslim
Posted: 9/26/12 at 6:13pm
Obama IS a Muslim (at heart), and Madonna is even worse.
Jim Colyer is not only a White Supremacist, but a mind-reader as well. Although I admit I'm super curious to hear how Madonna is worse than a Muslim (at heart).
#46Madonna says Obama is a Muslim
Posted: 9/26/12 at 6:16pm
Also why "Muslim" is somewhere on an imginary scale of bad things.
It's not like emperically bad, like "white supremacist."
#47Madonna says Obama is a Muslim
Posted: 9/26/12 at 6:19pmOr "asshat," which Jim Colyer, white supremacist, emperically is.
#48Madonna says Obama is a Muslim
Posted: 9/26/12 at 6:22pm"White supremacist" is a term of high status among those of their ilk. Which is how "Muslim" and "Liberal" become derogatory and infer evil and terrorism. It's deliberate ignorance. Or in the case of Jim Colyer, White Supremacist, incurable insanity and delusion.
#49Madonna says Obama is a Muslim
Posted: 9/26/12 at 6:27pm
Jim only likes White People.
Jim Hates God and America.I think we should all hit the message boards so his fans know how hateful Jim is. Obviously, Jim does not believe in Jesus Christ or his teachings of tolerance.
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